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I think Melissa can be fixed by having her state that the reason the male MC can't stay here is that if Ava found out that he was there then she might ask him to leave. I am hoping I have established that Ava is not a fan of men around her daughters, let alone in a sexual enviroment like a party.
To me Melissa is a pretty easy fix to do;

1. The whole morning sex scene is explained off with the guy (I forgot his name, too lazy to look it up) getting make-up sex from Melissa for what happened the previous night. They and his BF still sleeping in Melissa's bed when out for a night of partying with their group. This being a drug town, Melissa got herself into the party mood with one of the early versions of the fem drink we see later. Her suppose BF gets "punk" by some of their shittier friends and dosed with the fem drug sold in the club's bathroom.

So he's making a huge mess in his pants, and they can't take him home for his parents to find. So Melissa sneaks them into her room, but she's still hot and ready to go even with that type of night due to the drug she's on. So she jumps the other guy, in front of her almost passed-out boyfriend. Which causes the scene to happen the next morning with Melissa really trying to make shame-boy forget and feel better about himself.

What I hope that type of scene would do it, is show the town does have a major drug problem to be careful around and the group that Melissa runs with aren't nice people.


2. Café Scene in the Mall - Just have Melissa give a subtle hint that our male MC could be endanger spending the night with her friends under the same roof ( besides Mom's reasons, which are also understandable). Because I'm betting someone in that slumber party would "Cruel Intentions" our MC just to screw with Melissa and likely with drugs, alcohol, or sex.


Just a added note, I found the Mother a more likeable character after she picks-up the MC when his car breakdowns. It felt to me like her hard edges got just a tiny bit softer with the MC. She still doesn't trust him but he's not the walking dickbag she originally thought he was.

As to Voyeurism, I was more rolling my eyes the first time the MC looked into the sauna (Get a room People!). For Melissa in the kitchen, I was more just there for a time or two to be sure she was safe. Take those feelings for her and smash them down into a tiny box in your soul. Yet I will say, I really liked the second sauna scene with the girl teasing the MC over peeking.
 
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wytekki

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Love the game so far with the amount of choices and possible routes to go for, just fearing for the sake of such a huge amount of possibilities existing that most of the paths being continued will take a long while and the dev will focus on a specific route.
But just my worries, honestly hoping for the best and definately waiting for more.
 

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It would be great if the player could choose who is the LI (love interest)!

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It would also be great if the player could choose how to react to someone's statement or action - (For example: to be able to choose a positive reaction to Sophia).

It would be great if at the beginning of the game can choose a route for the dominant FemMC!

It would be great if FemMc had the ability to choose actions and the ability to avoid something that the player does not like!
 
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PTSdev

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As an HTML game dev, I'm really impressed by the UI. Great work. The game's premise also looks interesting. I'm gonna keep track of this game.
 

Godogma

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Well, it seems people are nicer if you let the dubious medical experiments go ahead; both Ava and Michelle actually acted like somewhat reasonable people (I could almost see being Michelle's friend) after that on the Dominant Male path.

Found on a more careful reread that Michelle "needs your room" which is why you're asked to leave... Factored my thoughts of her right back down a notch even though she was nice after the nightmare though I did see a scene in the cafe where she talked a bit (I don't know if I somehow missed that scene's trigger last playthrough or whether it didn't trigger at all)... Though she seems to imply that it's the MC's fault they don't talk much when they live in the same damn house and she just doesn't make time for him.

Also didn't help her case there. So, still feeling rather "Meh" with her as a 'best friend'.

Of course I still learned she's basically arranging threesomes with her sister and another dude, and I'm not supposed to have a LI at the house anyway due to the mom... Who is trying to do some forced feminization otherwise wouldn't have insisted on this place that the MC is now in some sort of contract with.

I've seen more content, avoided Kagney (because I dunno what I'd catch and I'm really not interested in gangbang scenes the MC isn't even involved in) and see tags for more upcoming stuff that really don't seem to fit the 'Dominant Male' path (such as a quest titled Band Bitch).

I'll give it an update or two but with everything basically saying 'either do the feminized / humiliated / sissy / submissive path(s?) or you're not going to see much content' I'm pretty sure this isn't going to be a game for me.
 

NOTAVPfan

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I did not think that you were rude or overly critical NOTAVPfan, and I do not mind long messages to explain a point or to show your thinking. In fact, I actually like reading problems when they are given context, as I can't address the problem if I have no idea why a person dislikes something I have done.

I am trying to branch the story but I know that there will be scenes that are unavoidable. Even if I remove Riley as a sexual interest the story is too based around Voyeur scenes so that the player learns information. Half the town is so corrupt that prostitution is everywhere in the poor neighbourhoods and I am writing that it can't be avoided.
It also has a fair bit of NTR (now that I understand it better).

AllieButtDK is 100% right when she says that to truly fix it I would be just writing another game.

You were right NOTAVPfan when you said that I have promissed multiple paths and did not note that there was NTR content.

To clarify what I meant with the questionaire. I know it does contain MxM content, but the purpose that I was refering to is that the Questionaire and the Ember Institute is not there to make the MC like men or force that content. The answers were meant to represent that the test is for women, not sissies.
I thought up the dream to make the MC uncomfortable so that it would trigger the nightmare, unless they are sub enough to submit to it.

Sissy and transgender paths are different as the one is more related to crossdressing while the other is wanting to physically be female. Feminization effects the player and the more feminine the more he is able to unlock body transformations to become physically more female.

Sissy is often about humiliation and is seperate from crossdressing in that regard but both are about wearing female clothes and acting female without needing to change their body. A Sissy can change their body type but does not need to.

On the issue of setting tags to avoid content. While I can fix what I have and put up warnings, I can't avoid like NTR and Voyeur and still tell the story I want to tell. Their will be content that players will have a problem with.

I might lose players but it is too ambitious to try to build a game that everyone will like. I care about the game and do not want to burn myself out. I hope that I will not get a lot of hate for this decision.
Thank you for the response!
I think I misspoke or didn't add enough context on Riley, as I wanted the player to be able to ignore/not advance her romance at all, as well as the ability to do the same to other characters and only focus on characters and content that the player wishes to interact with either through plan conversations or romantic and sexual interactions.
As to the Sissy vs Transgender paths, is there a path only for crossdressing, or is it either changing your gender or becoming a sissy? I feel like there's a lack of elaboration there. The Transgender path to me is the end goal of completely changing gender and sex while wearing clothes that fit the "new?/correct?" (no offence meant just don't know the correct terminology) gender and sex; whereas, the Sissy path to me felt it was forcing PC into sub and humiliation roles and crossdressing a minor aspect of the path. Is Sissy meant as the male crossdressing path or the sub and humiliations path while crossdressing? Other games have Sissy as usually just some feminization while slight or optional sub elements while crossdressing. Do you need to do Sissy content for crossdressing or are you able to get crossdressing without Sissy? Maybe a more elaborated in-game distinction or a new third path for just crossdressing? It just confused me tbh, or I'm just dumb lol.

I can live with Voyeur content and some Humiliation, even LIs having previous relationships, but I can't stand any form of NTR. So for clarification, NTR (or any kink really) isn't avoidable in ANY route? If it isn't avoidable then this game isn't for me then, sorry. Thank you for the clarifications and I hope your development of the game succeeds!
P.S. Still don't see NTR/Cheating tag or mention in the summary of the forum, and maybe either reword or remove the "choices matter" part. Hint hint ;)
 

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Thank you for the response!
I think I misspoke or didn't add enough context on Riley, as I wanted the player to be able to ignore/not advance her romance at all, as well as the ability to do the same to other characters and only focus on characters and content that the player wishes to interact with either through plan conversations or romantic and sexual interactions.
As to the Sissy vs Transgender paths, is there a path only for crossdressing, or is it either changing your gender or becoming a sissy? I feel like there's a lack of elaboration there. The Transgender path to me is the end goal of completely changing gender and sex while wearing clothes that fit the "new?/correct?" (no offence meant just don't know the correct terminology) gender and sex; whereas, the Sissy path to me felt it was forcing PC into sub and humiliation roles and crossdressing a minor aspect of the path. Is Sissy meant as the male crossdressing path or the sub and humiliations path while crossdressing? Other games have Sissy as usually just some feminization while slight or optional sub elements while crossdressing. Do you need to do Sissy content for crossdressing or are you able to get crossdressing without Sissy? Maybe a more elaborated in-game distinction or a new third path for just crossdressing? It just confused me tbh, or I'm just dumb lol.

I can live with Voyeur content and some Humiliation, even LIs having previous relationships, but I can't stand any form of NTR. So for clarification, NTR (or any kink really) isn't avoidable in ANY route? If it isn't avoidable then this game isn't for me then, sorry. Thank you for the clarifications and I hope your development of the game succeeds!
P.S. Still don't see NTR/Cheating tag or mention in the summary of the forum, and maybe either reword or remove the "choices matter" part. Hint hint ;)
I have delayed changing the tags as I can't click the TAG icon for my game. I think I am still waiting to recieve the DEV TAG for my Profile but it is greyed out for me. I have put in a second request.


No, I am sorry it will contain unavoidable NTR. I would be writing a seperate game just to remove the NTR from the plot and I know I will burn myself out just trying to write the game for two different user bases.

As I go back in to update and flesh out the Dom paths I am aware of how much NTR is in my game. I could alterthe game so that Melissa and Casey could be avoided by choice but Riley and other LI characters have sex as part of the story. I could feasably work out a way to get around it but the game would suffer and I would never make any progress.

I have had to accept that I will end up upsetting people as I can't please everyone. :(


Crossdresser will be its own path. I do get that Sissy is confusing as it is such a broad term now.
I have been trying to seperate the paths that include crossdressing.
Transgender Transformation: Body Modification to become more female with a female body (up to play if they go all the way and change penis to vagina.)
Transgender Feminization: Slow progress, the player will look more female but will not have surgery to become female.
Crossdress: All of the paths can have crossdress. Increasing Femininity increases what you can buy in the stores. A player can be male and still crossdress.
Sissy: I have been writing this more as Submissive Humiliation of the other 3. More outlandish costmes and acting more feminine.
Bimbo: While Bimbo is a bigger part of the Female path it can also happen to the Male MC and male characters that the MC Dominates.


The line "Your choices will shape the course of your game" is still true and one of the most important parts of the game. The game is on Day 2 and I have worked hard to put choices in and am working hard to alter them further player feedback.
Don't get me wrong I see that there are choices I am having to force to make a game but that is unavoidable. Not even real life allows you to avoid everything.

On that note, when there were 3 Hobbies at the start, you could skip going to the Institute. I wanted to give my players as much freedom as I could. Most never went that path or saw that content. Hours and Hours of work was never being played.
It had more flaws than the playthroughs you are on. It needs revising to continue to use the scenes. It taught me to rethink how ambitious I was being though :p :D
 

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Game seems too linear, there doesn't seem to be a lot of independence on where the MC can go and what they can do

Also the UI is a bit cluttered, but that's not a deal-breaker
 
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No, I am sorry it will contain unavoidable NTR. I would be writing a seperate game just to remove the NTR from the plot and I know I will burn myself out just trying to write the game for two different user bases.
Forget about burning yourself out trying to write NTR/Non-NTR, I think you're gonna burn yourself out just writing for Male/Female characters. :coffee::coffee:

Not sure if this is your first game or not but what you made right now came out really well. Love your picture selection, presentation etc :love: . However people already have lot of expectations for the game right now including myself.

In the future updates, suppose you're gonna release Male Protagonist focused content, then FMC players will definitely complain [I sure will :BootyTime:] and if you release Female character focused content in a update, then Male character players will rise up to cause trouble.

So you already have a lot to live up to here.
Personally speaking, I think it would have been better/easier if you made the game with either Male or Female Protagonist first. Anyway, since you already made a choice, good luck and be mentally prepared to exhaust yourself. I will be watching this thread like a hawk and will definitely provide feedback good or bad. Also, most of us don't have any issue with NTR. You should just stick with your ideas and make the game how you envisioned it. Once again all the best. (y):giggle:


Btw, can you give a tentative date on when the next update will be?
 

AWolfe

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Btw, can you give a tentative date on when the next update will be?
I am currently reworking the scenes with Melissa, Riley and Casey but it is fast turning into an overhaul to correct a few issues. I should be able to then release this as a patch.
1. I am fixing the many bugs that people have reported.
2 To make Melissa a little more friendly, I am reworking her dialogue.
3. I am altering Melissa's relationship with Johnny. She no longer kisses Cody and Johnny is her Boyfriend. She also no longer tells you that she had a Threesome with them.
4. I have changed the University Scene for Male players so that if you get Melissa to University on time you now meet Cody, Abella and Sophia.
This has a knock on effect where the dialogue for meeting Abella at the bus stop will also change.
5. I am giving the MC reactions to the events around him/her. Adding small passages where he/she notes how strange all the casual sex and exhibitionism is.
6. I am reworking the Attraction stats so that scenes react to whether you are attracted to men or women.
7. I have added the Attraction tracker to the Stat page.
8. I am altering the fantasy scene you have of Casey during your interview.
9. I am changing the Cafe Scene dialogue.
As soon as she gets this done there'll be a new release. Asking her for even a rough ETA isn't fair. It puts undue pressure on her to then meet whatever date she says to get folks off her back. I'm certain that it'll be this month, though.

For the record, she's a sole developer. I'm just a friend and fellow dev, who chats with her daily, so don't take what I say as "official".
 
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Humiliation and cuckhold is meant to be part of the game but not the primary part of the game and should be avoidable if you are a Dom. I haven't done a great job of that but no matter how much I work on continuity, working the game to incoporate the different paths means I often miss things.

Missing the scene with the Casey is part of skipping scene however. Actions having consequences and missing content because of choices is one of the main reason I built the game.

I want to make the Sisters less slutty but I want them to have a sex life. You are the new comer and I want there to be the obstacle of them having other sexual interests. I did not want to build a game where they are a readily available harem but are more grounded with personaities.
A difficult thing to achieve in a porn game lol :p
I didn't expect an answer - i highly appreciate it. I never comment about a game unless I want a walkthrough or when Im asking for Android mods. But this game looked soo good and that's why I wanted write about it to you. I've never seen a game that is so ambitious and with so many choices. I just hope you can juggle all these paths simultaneously- good luck

Okay - I can understand the part about missing Casey's content. And I'm in the dom route but I was still forced to watch the kitchen scene, I could skip the sex scene but I was still forced to initial makeout scene and the BJ scene - but you said that you are fixing mellisa sonim looking forward to it.

Even the scene with Abella danger - there was a choice between watching and actually getting a BJ from her (but you get interrupted midway which I can understand and don't mind). I really liked having the choice. But after that - when you are riding the bus - the MC himself was imagining and fetishizing Abella getting fucked my 2 other dudes, he was enjoying imagining her getting fucked by other dudes. Here I had no choice, I never selected any options which would indicate that I was into cuckhold but the MC was still imagining Abella getting fucked by other dudes. The MC himself keeps thinking about the girls getting fucked by other dudes - that's the part I don't like.

I didn't like that Melissa and Riley were getting fucked but I can understand your logic - that I'm just a new comer and the girls won't magically fall into my lap. But just because they are getting fucked by others dudes, doesn't mean I have to listen to it or see it everytime, i dont want them to fuck INFRONT of me. And i also just don't want the MC to actively thinking about and fetishizing the girls getting fucked by other dudes.

I didn't complete the 2nd in-game day so I can't comment on the rest of the game
 
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Godogma

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...wow... Kinda glad there's more content I missed at this point.

This game really needs Cuck and NTR tags and unless the Dom path changes substantially this definitely isn't a game for me. I'm just not remotely interested in every possible LI being a complete whore and the MC getting off on not getting any.

Best of Luck dev, but currently as the game sits there's no way I can enjoy it. I'll check back in 6months or a year to see if the game actually has any meaningful choices (other than which path the MC get's humiliated) or if there actually is still a Dom path in the game at that point.
 
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I didn't expect an answer - i highly appreciate it. I never comment about a game unless I want a walkthrough or when Im asking for Android mods. But this game looked soo good and that's why I wanted write about it to you. I've never seen a game that is so ambitious and with so many choices. I just hope you can juggle all these paths simultaneously- good luck

Okay - I can understand the part about missing Casey's content. And I'm in the dom route but I was still forced to watch the kitchen scene, I could skip the sex scene but I was still forced to initial makeout scene and the BJ scene - but you said that you are fixing mellisa sonim looking forward to it.

Even the scene with Abella danger - there was a choice between watching and actually getting a BJ from her (but you get interrupted midway which I can understand and don't mind). I really liked having the choice. But after that - when you are riding the bus - the MC himself was imagining and fetishizing Abella getting fucked my 2 other dudes, he was enjoying imagining her getting fucked by other dudes. Here I had no choice, I never selected any options which would indicate that I was into cuckhold but the MC was still imagining Abella getting fucked by other dudes. The MC himself keeps thinking about the girls getting fucked by other dudes - that's the part I don't like.

I didn't like that Melissa and Riley was fucked infront of me but I can understand your logic - that I'm just a new comer and the girls won't magically fall into my lap. But just because they are getting fucked by others dudes, doesn't mean I have to listen to it or see it everytime. And i aslo just don't want the MC to actively think about and fetishize the girls getting fucked by other dudes.

I didn't complete the 2nd in-game day so I can't comment on the rest of the game
There are a few people on here that would probably tell you how big a headache I am having editing the code to work around everything but I have been removing a lot of the options where you see the LI's have sex.

Melissa is having a serious rework to explain her actions or be more sympathetic. She still has sex in the kitchen but your character is smart enough to realise what is happening and can avoid it if they choose.
I have also changed it so that she does not have a threesome. This is less to do with removing something players dislike and more to correct her behaviour. Melissa is acting too much like Riley. I added that she had set up a sexual encounter with Abella but I did not want the player or the MC to believe Abella. The cafe scene however makes it seem as though Melissa does it a lot. Rewriting those scenes is putting it back on track.

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The changes to your imagination were simple. I changed it so that you are imagining yourself having sex with Abella (or other characters) and honestly I can't remember why I made it that your picturing other men. For the scene with more than one man I added that it is you and your friend. I liked the image and imagining that she is sucking you and a friend off is I think a good compromise to save my scene.

Original:
"Trying hard not to touch yourself you imagine that Abella is gaming on the XStation while sucking on two large cocks. She needs to keep both pleasured while she competes in a multiplayer deathmatch. Failure to rank in the top three will mean she loses her right to have an orgasm for the next week.

New:
"Trying hard not to touch yourself you imagine that Abella is gaming on the XStation while playing with two large cocks. Your own is deep in her throat while, her free hand is stroking your friends dick. She needs to keep both of you pleasured while she competes in a multiplayer deathmatch. Failure to rank in the top three will mean she loses her right to have an orgasm for the next week.

After editing though I noticed that I need to edit it again later to include the Gender Path, where you do not imagine yourself as a male.


...wow... Kinda glad there's more content I missed at this point.

This game really needs Cuck and NTR tags and unless the Dom path changes substantially this definitely isn't a game for me. I'm just not remotely interested in every possible LI being a complete whore and the MC getting off on not getting any.
I've said somewhere in the thread that I am working on the Dom path and I am unable to change the Tags on my topic. I think I am waiting for my Dev request to go through.

The next update should remove a lot of NTR. The player will choose if they want to watch.
I have said to a few people that I am not sure whether I can remove all NTR as people keep changing what it means from conversation to conversation but I am running on a rule that another Dev gave me.

1. If an LI know that what they're doing is hurting someone else, that's NTR.
2. If I as the narrator force a player to endure scenes where the MC is being hurt by the LI's actions, that is NTR.

Doing so for the Female MC is too difficult, I have plans that revolve around the Female MC knowing, imagining and sometimes seeing LI's like Melissa have sex.

The change I am working on atm is:
1.On the Skipped Ember Path, Melissa is having sex in the kitchen with her BF. You can watch or ignore but the player is aware that she is having a sexual relationship and I want it to hurt the MC a little. This is so he will realise that he can't wait around for Melissa to notice him.

2.On the Signed Contract Path, Melissa tells you she had sex with her BF. I want to keep this scene and for the MC to know that he is in the house. For the same reason as number 1, I want the MC to wake up to the fact that Melissa is unavailable and he needs to talk to her or move on.
(For female players she would tell her friend in gossip.)
 

Godogma

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That's good? I mean, I'm glad you're working on the content to try and differentiate between the Dominant Male path and the others. But frankly until I see the new rework Melissa doesn't interest me and I don't know if she will then.

As I said earlier none of the family is remotely compelling me toward actually being interested in a relationship currently. I realize that I've missed a LOT of the content present in the game by avoiding the various scenes of girls getting gangbanged by whoever etc - unfortunately because you chose to utilize a fetish (or two Voyeurism and/or NTR) to convey information some people are never going to see it.

I went back and watched the Kagney scene after you have sex with her in the Hostel (namely because she seemed sad and I had a save available) so I realized some of what I missed. Unfortunately I'm just not interested enough in the information to consistently do things like watch a white girl get gangbanged by a bunch of black dudes right after I had sex with her.

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Forget about burning yourself out trying to write NTR/Non-NTR, I think you're gonna burn yourself out just writing for Male/Female characters. :coffee::coffee:

Not sure if this is your first game or not but what you made right now came out really well. Love your picture selection, presentation etc :love: . However people already have lot of expectations for the game right now including myself.

In the future updates, suppose you're gonna release Male Protagonist focused content, then FMC players will definitely complain [I sure will :BootyTime:] and if you release Female character focused content in a update, then Male character players will rise up to cause trouble.

So you already have a lot to live up to here.
Personally speaking, I think it would have been better/easier if you made the game with either Male or Female Protagonist first. Anyway, since you already made a choice, good luck and be mentally prepared to exhaust yourself. I will be watching this thread like a hawk and will definitely provide feedback good or bad. Also, most of us don't have any issue with NTR. You should just stick with your ideas and make the game how you envisioned it. Once again all the best. (y):giggle:


Btw, can you give a tentative date on when the next update will be?
Yeah for some reason "Easier" is not registreing in my brain lol :p

I am less likely to write Male or Female content for each release and morelikely to get stuck doing Dom or Sub Content for each release. These are the two that require me to sitch my thinking where as writing Male and Female is the stuff that I am loving.

I wanted to write a Slumber party so that I could introduce the Female NPC's to the MC, but then I realised that the Male MC would not be invited. Many have said that it would have been easier to have had a house party and that way both MC's can go but it took away from their being a difference between character builds.

Sure I could have the Petite character eat a large meal and not get indigestion but the fun was writing that choices like that mattered.

I am going to regret it because I have to do rewrites to curve my ambitions but it has been nice to see that the community is not trying to kill that creativity but has enjoyed it.

That's good? I mean, I'm glad you're working on the content to try and differentiate between the Dominant Male path and the others. But frankly until I see the new rework Melissa doesn't interest me and I don't know if she will then.

As I said earlier none of the family is remotely compelling me toward actually being interested in a relationship currently. I realize that I've missed a LOT of the content present in the game by avoiding the various scenes of girls getting gangbanged by whoever etc - unfortunately because you chose to utilize a fetish (Voyeurism/NTR) to convey information some people are never going to see it.

I went back and watched the Kagney scene after you have sex with her in the Hostel (namely because she seemed sad and I had a save available) so I realized some of what I missed. Unfortunately I'm just not interested enough in the info to consistently do things like watch a white girl get gangbanged by a bunch of black dudes right after I had sex with her.

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Godogma

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The Voyeurism as a tool thing wouldn't be so bad if there was literally ANY other method of getting any information, or if it wasn't the supposed LI's fucking everyone but the MC in random places.

You're a porn game developer, you want to keep your audience and show sex in the beginning to try and engage with them but you also need to have the characters actually likeable and someone the MC would be interested in getting with - not to mention keep things at least somewhat believable.

One of the daughters fucking at random in various places with an overbearing bitch mom in the same house doesn't pull that off.

Michelle has sex in the damn KITCHEN with the way her mom acts toward the MC who hasn't done anything with any of her daughters? Seems rather farfetched that the daughters aren't catching the same sort of flak the MC does for having "evil males" in her house. Otherwise it's just her shitting on the MC for nothing.

Just my two cents and something for you to consider for your development as you work through things.
 

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I didn't like that Melissa and Riley were getting fucked but I can understand your logic - that I'm just a new comer and the girls won't magically fall into my lap. But just because they are getting fucked by others dudes, doesn't mean I have to listen to it or see it everytime, i dont want them to fuck INFRONT of me. And i also just don't want the MC to actively thinking about and fetishizing the girls getting fucked by other dudes.
I know for a fact that one can avoid all the sex scenes with Riley at the club and still get the info dump from her boytoys.

Funny thing was I had dinner with my 70+ old mother and mentioned the whole "Mean Mother kicks out her daughter's male friend out of the house for a weekend" issue with the slumber party. Her comment was "Smart Woman!" :LOL:
 
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