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Raziel_8

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the only thing I can think of is dev is either ignoring mistakes or just being lazy with writing
It's not only writing which is getting worse (and full of inconsistencies) just look at the renders, the models were once a good point of the game...now, not so much.
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gokitan

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Oct 5, 2018
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Made a quick WT Mod for the game (got a suggestion for that, mostly it's showing the points you can get in choices + some more game settings)


Jan. 27, 2024
Info: not at home most of the time the next days (accident in the family).
Therefore don't know when I can check the update.

Edit: did a quick check, the update is quite short (and only two not meaningful choices)
I therfore squeezed the Mod/port update in



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Love ya! hope its nothing serious and that everything goes well.
 

leros147

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Aug 25, 2019
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No wonder everything is filled with complaints again; they released the update. Otherwise, everyone would stay silent.
They complain as if they were Patreons...:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
Pathetic.
 

Don Sucio

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Jan 17, 2021
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Really disappointed, this is one of the few games i was thinking for buy a subscription in Patreon but after the chapter 5 and now this... hell no, i don´t want to spend my money in this now...

It is a pity, the game had many potential, with an original theme and interesting plot but now we have deformed girls and a story without conecctions with the Mc we saw in the first chapter. I was very intrigued with this specifically for the religious theme, all the names and characters have conecction with the Bible and exist in this religion, something very good and exceptional for me but now is a disaster.

I hope the dev can redeem himself with the futures chapters or eventually get back and remake the story with a change in the way...
 

Tyrranus

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May 4, 2017
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No wonder everything is filled with complaints again; they released the update. Otherwise, everyone would stay silent.
They complain as if they were Patreons...:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
Pathetic.
you do realize the dev wasnt the one to 'release' it on this site right? lol
 

slick97

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Dec 2, 2021
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Ill mention this post to whitebear in his discord but generally speaking he avoids this site according to him
That's generally a good approach to take, especially when developing your first project. Most people on this site are rather cruel and unhelpful with their disappointment in a project, but there are a rare few that point out legitimate issues that should be addressed to some extent.

the only thing I can think of is dev is either ignoring mistakes or just being lazy with writing
The most likely scenario is that the dev doesn't have any kind of editor. Writing mistakes, plot inconsistencies, and grammar aren't the main priority for the writer - they're main priority is transcribing the story in their head into text. If you've ever seen rough/first drafts of any kind of literature it's fairly common to see these mistakes plaguing the story. The editor is the one who points out grammar/spelling mistakes, and provides feedback regarding the structure of the story (i.e. Does the plot make sense? Is this character behaving according to their character sheet? etc.)

If Whitebear does decide to browse this thread, I highly recommend taking advantage of MIT OpenCourseWare. There are several free classes that teach you the tools necessary to become a skillful writer. This should also be helpful in creating a workflow for the writing the script.
 
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drifter139

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No wonder everything is filled with complaints again; they released the update. Otherwise, everyone would stay silent.
They complain as if they were Patreons...:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
Pathetic.
so because we aren't subs to dev's patreon, we don't have the right to point out problems with the game? story goes from "exiled angel kills torturer" to "I wanna get drunk because the nice girl is gone". grammar is horrible, character models change every other update, MC has almost no growth, and if anyone makes even a single small complaint, guys like you say things like "you're getting it for free so stfu and enjoy"
 

ThorinKing

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Feb 16, 2023
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so because we aren't subs to dev's patreon, we don't have the right to point out problems with the game? story goes from "exiled angel kills torturer" to "I wanna get drunk because the nice girl is gone". grammar is horrible, character models change every other update, MC has almost no growth, and if anyone makes even a single small complaint, guys like you say things like "you're getting it for free so stfu and enjoy"
Constructive comments from any are fair; even comments about the story drifting/not making sense, quality of renders or animations suffering, etc.

The things that make me roll my eyes and shake my head are when people start demanding changes, bitching about release times, bitching about the length of a release, or screeding about not making something optional, not allowing certain relationships, having or not having incest/ntr or other bullshit and they are just pirates, not patrons. Patrons can bitch about those things; pirates should keep their pie-holes shut.

Your mileage may vary.

Seeth....SEEEETH!!!! :LOL:
 
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ThorinKing

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I mean ... shouldn't you also follow your own example?
I pretty much do.

Most of my bitching relates to other people being bitchy. I think there's only one or two VNs (out of about 100 followed) where I've expressed opinions about dumbfuckery by a Dev. I won't mention them here, but in one, the Dev keeps making retroactive changes causing replays to be required; in another, it was more about agreeing with the overwhelming majority of other interested parties that the Dev was dragging on and on and on and giving really stupid excuses for putting out updates 6-8 months later than initially promised. Although, I will confess to getting assed up over Devs changing the Ren'Py version in a well-developed VN and basically crashing saves that took twenty or so hours to get to the point they were - that's something that just pisses off everyone. But, as a rule, I don't give unsolicited opinions on what kind of relationships a Dev should put into his/her VN. If what they're doing annoys me enough, I'll just move on - this ain't an airport and there's no need to announce my departure.

Seeth, tiny-brained folk! SEEEEETH!!!!
 
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