Thanks to modern science, now you don't even need to get out of bed to man the cannons.
- Thread starter Vanderer
- Start date
- Jan 2, 2023
- 1,716
- 2,336
- Mar 31, 2022
- 3,577
- 6,948
Sarah hasn't been in the game very long, but this update made me fall in love with her.
My one problem with this update, and it's been happening for a while, is how MC treats Solange. Don't get me wrong, she's treated well and often much the same as Maria, but MC doesn't treat her or see her as his daughter. Every so often he'll refer to Solange as his stepdaughter, but most of the time he treats her as simply his daughters friend even when granting her the same things as Maria. It's wrong. Especially when he himself treats Athagan in every way like his father, when it's only been an official adoption a couple of months. I don't care that one girl is a commoner and the other a born noble, if they're to be sisters let them actually be sisters. Both should be referred to as his daughters, they should be referred to as each others sister. There's a distasteful irony that this continues in an update heavily focusing on the impact of how two sisters were treated.
My one problem with this update, and it's been happening for a while, is how MC treats Solange. Don't get me wrong, she's treated well and often much the same as Maria, but MC doesn't treat her or see her as his daughter. Every so often he'll refer to Solange as his stepdaughter, but most of the time he treats her as simply his daughters friend even when granting her the same things as Maria. It's wrong. Especially when he himself treats Athagan in every way like his father, when it's only been an official adoption a couple of months. I don't care that one girl is a commoner and the other a born noble, if they're to be sisters let them actually be sisters. Both should be referred to as his daughters, they should be referred to as each others sister. There's a distasteful irony that this continues in an update heavily focusing on the impact of how two sisters were treated.
- Aug 4, 2022
- 3,048
- 5,916
I think it's a harem dynamics thing - Athagan calls MC son, his wife never does. Lia tells us that Solange is happy and trusts us with her daughter when she can't journey to the capital herself so there's at least that.
- Mar 31, 2022
- 3,577
- 6,948
The thing with Athagan and Liliana is different. Athagan adopted MC as an adult for political inheritance reasons.
Not saying Athagan is a bad father or anything he's not, he considers Maria his granddaughter and treats her as such.
But Liliana has no reason to adopt MC nor refer to him as her son. Not before the marriage to her daughter and not after. And none of that is getting into the meta knowledge that Liliana will be joining our harem at some later point, meaning she can't have been calling us son and us calling her mother etc.
So unless there are plans for Solange to marry a son of ours we have in the future, which would be weird, there is no reason for her to not be actually treated like our other children and them all be referred to correctly.
Solange's mother, Lia, is one of our women, one of our wives/concubines, and will be giving us more children. It would be cruelty bordering on barbarism to have Solange's younger sibling(s) by her mother be her only sibling(s), while all the other children, including Solange's younger sibling(s), get to to all be siblings to each other. Like if that ever happens, I wouldn't blame Solange for turning evil.
- Aug 4, 2022
- 3,048
- 5,916
Will she? Isn't there a rule about having more than one retired priestess and aren't she and Helen both that?
- Mar 31, 2022
- 3,577
- 6,948
I remember Vander saying she will, but I could be mistaken. If I'm right, and he has said that, I wouldn't be surprised if the fact she first married Athagan and bore a child by him would allow her to remarry without restriction in the event of her first husband dying.
But even if she won't, I fully stand by everything else I said in that comment.
- Jun 13, 2021
- 4,294
- 2,558
TheFieryScion-P2U18c
rpdl torrents are unaffiliated with F95Zone and the game developer.
Please note that we do not provide support for games.
For torrent-related issues use here, or join us on
Want to join the team? Read more here!
You don't have permission to view the spoiler content.
Log in or register now.
Please note that we do not provide support for games.
For torrent-related issues use here, or join us on
You must be registered to see the links
!
You must be registered to see the links
,
You must be registered to see the links
. Downloading issues? Look here.Want to join the team? Read more here!
- Jan 2, 2023
- 1,716
- 2,336
im sure regrading solange will be treated more as a daughter along the way, sure like e6mill said harem courtesy or customs play some role, but its also a time factor ,athagan raised the MC so they build a father son relationship over the years, so same will most likely happen whit the MC and solange when she starts to develop more individuality as a person.
for she's still a stepdaughter from a concubine, their father-daughter relationship will need some time to develop but we already see the mc at least help raise her and treat her like part off the family, if he didn't care for her happiness he wouldn't have offered her the same pony deal as maria
I do hope the MC finds a way around or a loophole kinda thing for the only one ishtar priestess thing because i'd like to add all 3 windale priestesses shown to the harem and the yes ofcrouse lilianna after she had time to grieve
for she's still a stepdaughter from a concubine, their father-daughter relationship will need some time to develop but we already see the mc at least help raise her and treat her like part off the family, if he didn't care for her happiness he wouldn't have offered her the same pony deal as maria
I do hope the MC finds a way around or a loophole kinda thing for the only one ishtar priestess thing because i'd like to add all 3 windale priestesses shown to the harem and the yes ofcrouse lilianna after she had time to grieve
- Jan 2, 2023
- 1,716
- 2,336
depends Vanderer updates depend on planned content stopping useally at nighttime when the MC sleeps The latest is a shorter one because its just a trip from 1 city to a other
but it reflects in development time - average about 4-6 week for a update( there should be a post tracking it)
I don't get why excellent VN's like this don't have 2\3000 supporters and it get updates almost 2 times a quarter but WMV makes a killing and has like an update a year. It boggles the mind and is beyond infuriating. Keep truckin' Vander
- Jan 2, 2023
- 1,716
- 2,336
probably because wvm is a more sex based avn and tfs is more a story based one at least IMO
wvm also has been around longer
Not sure if vanderer checks here for stuff like this, but using "can't" here is wrong, should be can.
Second time I see wvm mentioned on the site, what is it?
- Jan 2, 2023
- 1,716
- 2,336
yes vanderer is active in the thread
and wvm is a other avn (one whit some controversy around its development but you can read about it in the wvm thread)
- Jan 18, 2018
- 182
- 431
- Sep 13, 2020
- 491
- 417
Won't be for a bit because one of the main compressors for the site who volunteers to do the compressions had a family emergency so who knows who will be doing the compression for it. https://f95zone.to/threads/game-compression-requests-3-0.176210/post-13840298
- Dec 8, 2017
- 760
- 2,625
Yeah, I need to remake that one...
Dude, the MC just met her! And yes, the MC is Athagan's son for a short time, but Athagan took care of the MC for more than a decade before that. Comparing the two is disingenuous.
And I really don't see how the MC mistreat Solange. He's going to buy her a pony like Maria, took her to the captial in a skyship like Maria. Sure, he don't treat her like her daughter, bacause she's his stepdaughter. For now.
Thanks, corrected for the next update.
You got it for Solange!
As for the pristesses rules, it's for the warded ones. Basically, it's a rule that's in place so one man cannot claim tham all for himself, so after that they are considered normal women. Being a Priestess of Ishater is a role that stop the day they marry. Then, their duty is to their husband.
Here is a post from Tiur with the size and dates of the releases.
- Sep 5, 2021
- 3,718
- 10,079
Oof, that was a bit data dense on first seeing it, brain kinda jammed up from the overload but breaking up it looks like you go roughly 4 to 6 weeks between updates (just like HiHaHo said)... guess i'll pop in with a donation in about 3 or so weeks
Found the game recently and been playing for a little while. Not sure how close I am to the end of content yet, but from comments it feels like I'm getting close.
Two things that kinda got in my mind as a curiosity and that I haven't seen clearly explained in the game though:
1 - Was Karla a virgin when the MC took her in the tower? That is never clarified. MC states she was his first but the reverse is never stated. That on top of her being a mage (and thus being far more independent than most women and having the societal rules apply differently to her). She does mention "having one last adventure" before acquiescing to her jerk father's (and Eloise's) demands, but the MC put a stop to that when he claimed her;
2 - Priestesses of Ishtar: It is generally frowned upon to make a move on them, and it's expected of them to make the move if and when they are interested in someone, not the reverse. It is never said anywhere that they are forbidden from having partners before their belly ward expires though. At the same time, during the Ishtar ritual of marriage, the priestess always make it a point to indicate to the husband-to-be if the lady he is about to marry is a virgin or not. So with that preamble out of the way, are the priestesses supposed to be and stay virgins until they choose/marry a partner? Are they "free" to engage with others due to their position? Or does it vary depending on the individual priestess?
Finally... can we abolish the rule that a guy can only have 1 priestess with him? Cause I just played through the wedding scene after the orc raid on Wildale and it'd be lovely to have both the High Priestess as well as the normal priestess (the one who pressured the High Priestess into making a decision about the MC) in the harem.
Overall, I've been enjoying the game for what it is. I wouldn't call it a masterpiece or anything and it has a fair number of flaws, but it's a pretty good "comfort game" (in a similar way to which we'd use the term "comfort food"). It's nice.
Two things that kinda got in my mind as a curiosity and that I haven't seen clearly explained in the game though:
1 - Was Karla a virgin when the MC took her in the tower? That is never clarified. MC states she was his first but the reverse is never stated. That on top of her being a mage (and thus being far more independent than most women and having the societal rules apply differently to her). She does mention "having one last adventure" before acquiescing to her jerk father's (and Eloise's) demands, but the MC put a stop to that when he claimed her;
2 - Priestesses of Ishtar: It is generally frowned upon to make a move on them, and it's expected of them to make the move if and when they are interested in someone, not the reverse. It is never said anywhere that they are forbidden from having partners before their belly ward expires though. At the same time, during the Ishtar ritual of marriage, the priestess always make it a point to indicate to the husband-to-be if the lady he is about to marry is a virgin or not. So with that preamble out of the way, are the priestesses supposed to be and stay virgins until they choose/marry a partner? Are they "free" to engage with others due to their position? Or does it vary depending on the individual priestess?
Finally... can we abolish the rule that a guy can only have 1 priestess with him? Cause I just played through the wedding scene after the orc raid on Wildale and it'd be lovely to have both the High Priestess as well as the normal priestess (the one who pressured the High Priestess into making a decision about the MC) in the harem.
Overall, I've been enjoying the game for what it is. I wouldn't call it a masterpiece or anything and it has a fair number of flaws, but it's a pretty good "comfort game" (in a similar way to which we'd use the term "comfort food"). It's nice.
Last edited: