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with wich programm are the characters made? or are they selfmade?
and are there are out similiar games like that with this much customation?
 
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rb813

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Patrons offering you booze is dependant on your mood. The lower your mood the more often they will offer booze. If I remember right, they won't offer if you are above 40
I've been keeping an eye on this, and there have definitely been a couple times when they gave me drinks while my mood was in the 60's. Does how Tired you are have something to do with it as well?
 

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I've been keeping an eye on this, and there have definitely been a couple times when they gave me drinks while my mood was in the 60's. Does how Tired you are have something to do with it as well?
As I recall, there is one booze offering event that happens regardless of mood. (One where the Patron gives you his friend's beer, on account of said friend being busy puking in the bathroom.)
 

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As I recall, there is one booze offering event that happens regardless of mood. (One where the Patron gives you his friend's beer, on account of said friend being busy puking in the bathroom.)
This is correct. Just looked at the code and there are 3 booze events. The one described happens regardless of mood, another happens at 40 and below, another happens at 25 and below.

wait, is it possible to return to haven after clearing mission?
Currently using cheats. It's like that until I implement a lore friendly way to replay missions. Using the cheat wont mess up your game or anything if you have already completed it once.
 
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Got an error when I tried to do the topless version of the Christmas special shoot.

Code:
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
  File "game/scripts/locations/school/school_events/school_photo/school_photoshoots/school_photo_shoot_christmas.rpy", line 281, in script call
    $ photo_advance_checker("topless")
  File "game/scripts/locations/school/school_events/school_photo/school_photo_picker.rpy", line 133, in script
    if photo_all("tasteful"):
  File "game/scripts/locations/school/school_events/school_photo/school_photo_picker.rpy", line 133, in <module>
    if photo_all("tasteful"):
TypeError: 'PhotoClass' object is not callable

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
  File "game/scripts/locations/school/school_events/school_photo/school_photoshoots/school_photo_shoot_christmas.rpy", line 281, in script call
    $ photo_advance_checker("topless")
  File "game/scripts/locations/school/school_events/school_photo/school_photo_picker.rpy", line 133, in script
    if photo_all("tasteful"):
  File "renpy/ast.py", line 1892, in execute
    if renpy.python.py_eval(condition):
  File "renpy/python.py", line 2249, in py_eval
    return py_eval_bytecode(code, globals, locals)
  File "renpy/python.py", line 2242, in py_eval_bytecode
    return eval(bytecode, globals, locals)
  File "game/scripts/locations/school/school_events/school_photo/school_photo_picker.rpy", line 133, in <module>
    if photo_all("tasteful"):
TypeError: 'PhotoClass' object is not callable

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Ren'Py 7.4.6.1693
The Fixer 0.2.35.00
Wed Jan  5 06:28:57 2022
(I could still do the rest of the event by clicking Ignore.)
 

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Or have one of the soccer boys draw a heart on your face. It gives you the slut perk.
Funny story about this. I finally got a dare match with the heart "reward," so I went to work at the bar the next evening (cheating my hygiene up so it wouldn't wash away) to see what kind of different interactions might happen with the slut tag. The whole night went exactly the same as when I didn't have the heart. I figured maybe confidence had something to do with it. I had saved right before my shift started, so I reloaded and cheated my confidence to 100. This time, I did eventually get a consensual, non-prostitution sex event, but ironically, it was after the character went into the bathroom and toweled herself off, thus washing away the heart drawing that was supposed to make consensual sex more likely. This game, I tell ya. You really can't predict or plan how things will go.

I must say, I think you've done a really great job of scripting a framework that's a lot more like real life than most other adult games. I actually really enjoy how, once you get a sex event, it's not just "okay, now I can see this scene whenever I want," the randomness makes it so you still don't know whether it'll happen again any time soon, so it still builds up that anticipation and sense of wondering when it will happen, that goes away in most games once you've climbed high enough up the "stairway to heaven." For me, the tantalizing tease of not knowing when something sexy will happen is a big part of the draw of sex games, so I find that randomness more appealing than something like Man of the House, where I can just decide to see a certain sex scene again whenever I feel like it.

I also love the customization of the character's appearance and different outfit options. A couple ideas about that; the early game has a good feel of your wardrobe getting incrementally more sexy, as you earn money to buy new clothes, and gain confidence to expose yourself more. But it kinda levels out eventually. I wouldn't mind at all if there were more exhibitionism potential (like, all the way up to going out naked if that's how you want to play it). But barring that, there are still a few things you could do with the actual clothing items. I'd love it if there were like a fishnet skirt, that works the same way as the mesh top; it technically satisfies the condition of wearing outer clothes, so the game doesn't stop you from going out, but I can still see everything.

Also, I wouldn't mind if there was some incremental sexiness with the school uniform. I know it's a uniform, so that's stretching the realism a bit, but it is a sex game. It wouldn't be too crazy to just wear your uniform shirt with the top button undone and maybe the bottom tied off so your hard-earned abs are showing. I'd also love it if you could wear that school uniform's outer layer without the shirt (that would be hot, but certainly harder to justify). Similarly, I wouldn't mind if the waitress uniform had incremental stages that each just showed a little more skin. It would be the same shape dress each time, just the skirt would get a little higher and the neckline would get a little lower, so you could just use the modified versions for the profile pic and wouldn't have to redraw all the images of customer interactions.

I don't know, just thinking out loud. I'm having a lot of fun with this game and I'm looking forward to seeing what comes next.
 
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In the new update, is there anything about anal?
:love::love::love:
You can do anal with the soccer boys and be assraped b one of them when they get mad at you for beating them at soccer.

Thanks for the error report. It is fixed for the next release.

The way agreeing to sex works is it checks pretty much all your stats, your sexual experience and drunkenness and rolls against the difficulty. More extreme sex acts roll at a higher difficulty. The slut perk totally bypasses the dice roll and just auto passes the check so you can agree. But of course you can only agree to sex if someone actually offers, so it's probably why you didn't see a massive difference. I really need to add more non whore events to the pub.

As for the clothes, it's actually something I am going to poll about soon. If people want clothes that are more grounded in reality or if they want it more porn like? Right now I have added things that I would expect Sammy to wear and not so much what players might want to see Sammy wearing. We will see very soon how that goes with the poll results.
 
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Not saying you shouldn't do the poll, but if you did make more porn-like clothing items, couldn't people who want clothes that are more grounded in reality just not equip them? I suppose it would be wasted effort to draw the art assets if nobody would want to use them, but I certainly do enjoy slutty/porn-like clothes in my sex games. It's part of the fantasy, because a lot of women in real life don't have the bodies to accommodate those kinds of clothes (not even necessarily because they're out of shape, but maybe just because the clothing manufacturers make them for a too-specific body type).
 

drenai1

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As for the clothes, it's actually something I am going to poll about soon. If people want clothes that are more grounded in reality or if they want it more porn like? Right now I have added things that I would expect Sammy to wear and not so much what players might want to see Sammy wearing. We will see very soon how that goes with the poll results.
Not saying you shouldn't do the poll, but if you did make more porn-like clothing items, couldn't people who want clothes that are more grounded in reality just not equip them? I suppose it would be wasted effort to draw the art assets if nobody would want to use them, but I certainly do enjoy slutty/porn-like clothes in my sex games. It's part of the fantasy, because a lot of women in real life don't have the bodies to accommodate those kinds of clothes (not even necessarily because they're out of shape, but maybe just because the clothing manufacturers make them for a too-specific body type).
I had some thoughts on these lines that might be fun from a player's perspective, though would probably mean more work for Sam_Tail. There could be event or mission specific clothing that doesn't become available until a specific mission or event is reached or completed. An example that could work for this would be the shirt and shorts that Samantha wears in Haven. Make it so that those articles of clothing don't become available until the Haven mission. As for sluttier, more porn-like clothing, other outfits could become available after other missions.

You could also have outfits or clothing pieces that are related to specific events. Maybe when the bully events reach stage eleven, Shane and Marcus could force Samantha to wear a much sluttier version of the school uniform with a barely there skirt and a halter top. When her confidence drops below a certain level, this would become the only school uniform option available to her. This outfit would only become available for the wardrobe after bully events reach the Bully Event stage at which Sammantha is forced to wear it.

Something similar could be incorporated into the Soccer Boys dare matches. On a loss, the soccer boys could give Samantha an extra skimpy mesh dress that she has to wear anytime she's out in public outside of school and work hours for the next two days. Oh, and on a subsequent loss with this dare, she'd not be allowed to wear undergarments with the dress. As with the Bully Event outfit, this dress would only become available for the wardrobe after it's triggered in a dare match.
 
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I would enjoy that too, as long as the items are not too hard to unlock. I would say if there are event-specific items, there should be an option in the cheat menu to just make them available for purchase like all the other items (there could possibly be one store in the mall just for those). Then players can decide for themselves, for each item, whether to buy it or try to earn it through the event.

Other ideas for clothing items; I'd like to see a lingerie nightgown for the sleep outfit, and more bikini options for swimming, and then the option to wear those bikinis when you're not swimming. More neckwear would be fun too, I like lace chokers (and lace underwear, can't believe I forgot that). And might as well have the waitress dress be available to wear in other outfits (in different colors)?
 
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rb813

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The slut perk totally bypasses the dice roll and just auto passes the check so you can agree. But of course you can only agree to sex if someone actually offers, so it's probably why you didn't see a massive difference. I really need to add more non whore events to the pub.
I think the one consensual event I did get at the end of the night was one where I was given the option to accept, refuse, or ask for money. If more of the solicitation events were like that (the patron tries to get it for free first), it would also increase the chances of getting consensual sex without having to add new events.
 

drenai1

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I would enjoy that too, as long as the items are not too hard to unlock. I would say if there are event-specific items, there should be an option in the cheat menu to just make them available for purchase like all the other items (there could possibly be one store in the mall just for those). Then players can decide for themselves, for each item, whether to buy it or try to earn it through the event.

Other ideas for clothing items; I'd like to see a lingerie nightgown for the sleep outfit, and more bikini options for swimming, and then the option to wear those bikinis when you're not swimming. More neckwear would be fun too, I like lace chokers (and lace underwear, can't believe I forgot that). And might as well have the waitress dress be available to wear in other outfits (in different colors)?
I agree that there should be a cheat option for event specific outfits or some other mechanism for them to become available to players who don't want to play a specific event or mission.

For instance, some people may not want to have Samantha giving in to the Bullies' demands at school. Maybe a high confidence character could catch Shane and Marcus trying to force another girl to dress up in the slutty schoolgirl outfit, somehow turn the tables on them and take the outfit from them at the end of the encounter.

A player who doesn't want to do the soccer/football could have the option of sneaking into the abandoned locker room and finding the outfit from the soccer boys there.

Another possibility would be to simply have event related outfits appear at the mall after a set amount of in-game time.

I also happen to agree with you that some lingerie options might be fun along with more neck wear and bikini options. More piercing options could also be fun. These too could be quest or event related, unlockable options. Something else that might be a good addition, though a sizable amount of extra work to implement, would be clothing that gets damaged and needs to be replaced periodically. This would also have the added benefit of actually giving Samantha something to spend her money on.
 

Benvict

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This is correct. Just looked at the code and there are 3 booze events. The one described happens regardless of mood, another happens at 40 and below, another happens at 25 and below.



Currently using cheats. It's like that until I implement a lore friendly way to replay missions. Using the cheat wont mess up your game or anything if you have already completed it once.
Hello there i found your game from itch.io and it's really a good game but i have a question about the quest/mission before haven. At that point when the haven quest is on hold you were told to help the security/police with their problems and try to go to the train station but i can't seem to find the train station anywhere so i decided to just skip the days doing anything else. Is it bcs the quest hasn't been developed yet or i just missed it? Thanks in advance
 

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dunno if this has been reported yet:
```
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
File "game/scripts/locations/school/school_events/school_soccer/school_soccer_sex_events.rpy", line 184, in script
$ randomnum = renpy.random.randint(1, player.desire)
File "game/scripts/locations/school/school_events/school_soccer/school_soccer_sex_events.rpy", line 184, in <module>
$ randomnum = renpy.random.randint(1, player.desire)
ValueError: empty range for randrange() (1,1, 0)

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
File "game/scripts/locations/school/school_events/school_soccer/school_soccer_sex_events.rpy", line 184, in script
$ randomnum = renpy.random.randint(1, player.desire)
File "renpy/ast.py", line 922, in execute
renpy.python.py_exec_bytecode(self.code.bytecode, self.hide, store=self.store)
File "renpy/python.py", line 2218, in py_exec_bytecode
exec(bytecode, globals, locals)
File "game/scripts/locations/school/school_events/school_soccer/school_soccer_sex_events.rpy", line 184, in <module>
$ randomnum = renpy.random.randint(1, player.desire)
File "/home/tom/ab/renpy-build/tmp/install.android-x86_64/lib/python2.7/random.py", line 244, in randint
File "/home/tom/ab/renpy-build/tmp/install.android-x86_64/lib/python2.7/random.py", line 220, in randrange
ValueError: empty range for randrange() (1,1, 0)

Windows-10-10.0.19041
Ren'Py 7.4.6.1693
The Fixer 0.2.34.00
```
 

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Hello there i found your game from itch.io and it's really a good game but i have a question about the quest/mission before haven. At that point when the haven quest is on hold you were told to help the security/police with their problems and try to go to the train station but i can't seem to find the train station anywhere so i decided to just skip the days doing anything else. Is it bcs the quest hasn't been developed yet or i just missed it? Thanks in advance
that quest isn't in the game yet.

I agree that there should be a cheat option for event specific outfits or some other mechanism for them to become available to players who don't want to play a specific event or mission.

For instance, some people may not want to have Samantha giving in to the Bullies' demands at school. Maybe a high confidence character could catch Shane and Marcus trying to force another girl to dress up in the slutty schoolgirl outfit, somehow turn the tables on them and take the outfit from them at the end of the encounter.

A player who doesn't want to do soccer/football could have the option of sneaking into the abandoned locker room and finding the outfit from the soccer boys there.

Another possibility would be to simply have event related outfits appear at the mall after a set amount of in-game time.

I also happen to agree with you that some lingerie options might be fun along with more neckwear and bikini options. More piercing options could also be fun. These too could be quest or event related, unlockable options. Something else that might be a good addition, though a sizable amount of extra work to implement, would be clothing that gets damaged and needs to be replaced periodically. This would also have the added benefit of actually giving Samantha something to spend her money on.
I like the clothing getting damaged idea. clothing getting ripped off and torn. either in the heat of passion or while getting raped. the game definitely needs a money sink. everyone is complaining about how hard it is and how poor they are and my Sammy sits on 50K. come here Dani let me be your sugar mommy.
 

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Thanks, bit of a strange one but think I have fixed it.

Clothes being unlocked is the idea. The Haven outfit being a perfect example. If you clear the Haven mission with your clothes still on, all the items will be added to your wardrobe. But I haven't locked you being able to buy the items prior to that just yet simply because I prefer to put things in as many peoples hands as possible right now to make sure everything works as intended.

Clothing being torn/stolen is something I am undecided on. But I will commit to a choice once I have things like exhibitionism in so that I can at least have Sammy running home naked if I do decide to have her able to lose clothes.

Bikini/underwear choices should make their way in soon. I have been holding off on those because I am not happy with how underwear looks with the current pregnancy bodies. And since there is now a discussion/poll on Patreon about breast sizes and pregnancy, I want to wait until things on that front are decided before pushing on with the underwear.

Also added some new images and a banner to the OP. Gives a sneak peek at the new splash screen.
 

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But I will commit to a choice once I have things like exhibitionism in so that I can at least have Sammy running home naked if I do decide to have her able to lose clothes.
If something like this is introduced, there should be reactions from other people out in the world (at least some of the time). Not necessarily sex, but at least some catcalls and people noticing her, because there's not much point to exhibiting yourself if nobody ever notices. Similarly, the one school event where she takes off all her clothes in the locker room, there should be a chance that somebody sees her and either says something, propositions her, or tries to force her.
 
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Thanks, bit of a strange one but think I have fixed it.

Clothes being unlocked is the idea. The Haven outfit being a perfect example. If you clear the Haven mission with your clothes still on, all the items will be added to your wardrobe. But I haven't locked you being able to buy the items prior to that just yet simply because I prefer to put things in as many peoples hands as possible right now to make sure everything works as intended.

Clothing being torn/stolen is something I am undecided on. But I will commit to a choice once I have things like exhibitionism in so that I can at least have Sammy running home naked if I do decide to have her able to lose clothes.

Bikini/underwear choices should make their way in soon. I have been holding off on those because I am not happy with how underwear looks with the current pregnancy bodies. And since there is now a discussion/poll on Patreon about breast sizes and pregnancy, I want to wait until things on that front are decided before pushing on with the underwear.

Also added some new images and a banner to the OP. Gives a sneak peek at the new splash screen.
breast size poll? I hope this won't result in Sammy turning into some big boob bimbo. I like your new avatar.

If something like this is introduced, there should be reactions from other people out in the world (at least some of the time). Not necessarily sex, but at least some catcalls and people noticing her, because there's not much point to exhibiting yourself if nobody ever notices. Similarly, the one school event where she takes off all her clothes in the locker room, there should be a chance that somebody sees her and either says something, propositions her, or tries to force her.
definitely agree. I was always hoping that would happen when she did that. maybe even a chance of someone stealing some or all of her clothing.
 
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