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Did you extract the scripts.rpa using unren.bat found on this site?
Ah, that would explain it.

Yeah, i see it in the .rpa, line 85063. Used Brackets to open it directly, but i can't modify it from there or i'll get 'incomplete or truncated stream' errors after saving the changes.

By the way, it says this slightly below that:

def perk_commando_queue():
if not "commando_queue" in perk_commando.dict:
perk_commando.dict["commando_queue"] = []
if (t.hour % 3) == 0:
while len(perk_commando.dict["commando_queue"]) >= 30:
perk_commando.dict["commando_queue"].pop()
perk_commando.dict["commando_queue"].insert(0,If(not c.pants, True, False))
def perk_commando_qualify_checker():
if sum(i == True for i in perk_commando.dict["commando_queue"]) >= 25 and not player.has_perk(perk_commando) and len(perk_commando.dict["commando_queue"]) == 30:
return True
else:
return False
Wouldn't commenting that out, or switching the 30 to something like 300 prevent you from getting the commando perk in the first place?
 
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Sorry for the previous post, I completely forgot that you need to unpack the archives first. I automatically do that to all renpy games. I don't even know anymore if a game originally shipped with .rpa archives or loose files.

Wouldn't commenting that out, or switching the 30 to something like 300 prevent you from getting the commando perk in the first place?
Not necessarily. It's possible to grant the perk without going through that qualify check. I think character creation and something else already did that when I looked at the scripts of version 0.3.00.01.

Of course, there are many ways to alter the code. I only wanted the wardrobe deletion functionality gone, so I got rid of that part. It seemed like a simple function that likely won't change much in updates. This way I also won't have to hunt every bit of code that could grant the perk now or in future updates. I'm not saying it's the best way to do this--for example, the game could check for the Commando perk and assert from its presence that there's no underwear, which could lead to bugs with my edit.

Edit whatever works for you. Just be careful with whitespace, it's syntactically significant in Python. Copypasting the code from your post back into the script file would break it. And don't bother the dev with any bug reports if you fiddle with the code!
 
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Ah, that would explain it.

Yeah, i see it in the .rpa, line 85063. Used Brackets to open it directly, but i can't modify it from there or i'll get 'incomplete or truncated stream' errors after saving the changes.

By the way, it says this slightly below that:



Wouldn't commenting that out, or switching the 30 to something like 300 prevent you from getting the commando perk in the first place?
It wouldn't stop getting the commando perk as a byproduct of the exhibitionist perk, it would affect getting the commando perk on its own from going without underwear for I think its 30 in game days in a row. You could change the 30 to something higher to make it harder to get that way.
 

Amhran

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How's the pregnancy in this game? Has anyone here decided to see it through? Still undecided if I should progress mine since it takes 90 days.
No, the system is not deep and doesn't really go much of anywhere yet, I think you'll be disappointed if you're expecting anything too grand from it. Now if you think Sammy looks cute when she's pregnant, then it's definitely worth it, :p.
 

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No, the system is not deep and doesn't really go much of anywhere yet, I think you'll be disappointed if you're expecting anything too grand from it. Now if you think Sammy looks cute when she's pregnant, then it's definitely worth it, :p.
I see, thank you.

Yeah, thought there might be a child system or thingamabob or maybe even a relevant dialogue I might trigger afterwards lol.
 

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I see, thank you.

Yeah, thought there might be a child system or thingamabob or maybe even a relevant dialogue I might trigger afterwards lol.
Well, someone clearly hasn't been following along with the lore that they learn from their school classes! Due to the plague that has caused underpopulation, unmarried women have their children forcibly taken away from them by the government, presumably to be placed in proper families where they'll have the best chance of becoming productive citizens of society. Now to me, this doesn't really make a ton of sense, because you would assume that you want women to be having as many children as they possibly can, so you'd probably want to incentivize them to do so, and forcibly stealing their children doesn't really seem like much of an incentive for the women who want to actually raise their children. Though it is a great incentive for women who enjoy perpetually getting and staying pregnant with relatively few consequences (...ignoring that being pregnant is obviously a consequence in of itself), which is probably currently the point of it. But really, you could still offer that without forcing them to do so. I think the moral of the story is that pregnancy and children systems are difficult to implement.
 

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No, the system is not deep and doesn't really go much of anywhere yet, I think you'll be disappointed if you're expecting anything too grand from it. Now if you think Sammy looks cute when she's pregnant, then it's definitely worth it, :p.
Well, someone clearly hasn't been following along with the lore that they learn from their school classes! Due to the plague that has caused underpopulation, unmarried women have their children forcibly taken away from them by the government, presumably to be placed in proper families where they'll have the best chance of becoming productive citizens of society. Now to me, this doesn't really make a ton of sense, because you would assume that you want women to be having as many children as they possibly can, so you'd probably want to incentivize them to do so, and forcibly stealing their children doesn't really seem like much of an incentive for the women who want to actually raise their children. Though it is a great incentive for women who enjoy perpetually getting and staying pregnant with relatively few consequences (...ignoring that being pregnant is obviously a consequence in of itself), which is probably currently the point of it. But really, you could still offer that without forcing them to do so. I think the moral of the story is that pregnancy and children systems are difficult to implement.
Yeah, the lore bit is a pretty good point.

But I would say pregnancy is deeper in Fixer compared to most other games, but the bar is pretty damn low, since most games reserve it as an ending. The Hazumi Pregnation game is probably the only game off the top of my head with more in depth pregnancy. Hazumi is given financial compensation for her babies. Probably wouldn't hurt to implement the same mechanic in Fixer, probably $1,000 per baby.

Working at the bar yields anywhere between $10-50. One round of prostitution can pay between $40-$60 on average. If you go commando during the dance girls route you can make $100. But things are expensive AF. It costs between $50-$300 per article of clothing. Pepper spray is $3000. Meanwhile, with the landlord getting put into the game soon, I expect more mechanics will be implemented to nickle-and-dime the MC along the way in the near future. A grand per baby would give your MC a moment of respite.
 
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Yeah, the lore bit is a pretty good point.

But I would say pregnancy is deeper in Fixer compared to most other games, but the bar is pretty damn low, since most games reserve it as an ending. The Hazumi Pregnation game is probably the only game off the top of my head with more in depth pregnancy. Hazumi is given financial compensation for her babies. Probably wouldn't hurt to implement the same mechanic in Fixer, probably $1,000 per baby.

Working at the bar yields anywhere between $10-50. One round of prostitution can pay between $40-$60 on average. If you go commando during the dance girls route you can make $100. But things are expensive AF. It costs between $50-$300 per article of clothing. Pepper spray is $3000. Meanwhile, with the landlord getting put into the game soon, I expect more mechanics will be implemented to nickle-and-dime the MC along the way in the near future. A grand per baby would give your MC a moment of respite.
Simple Days probably has the deepest pregnancy and baby system of any game I've played.
 

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Main reason the children get taken away is because adding kids in a porn game is a sure fire way to end up banned from most platforms. Plus I have yet to see a game that adds the child raising aspect of it all in a fun and engaging way. Not looked at Hazumi since one of its really early releases though, should probably check it out again now it's complete.

Financial compensation was an idea I floated quite some time ago and to my surprise it seems quite an unpopular idea. Can't remember the reasoning though.
 

Amhran

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Main reason the children get taken away is because adding kids in a porn game is a sure fire way to end up banned from most platforms. Plus I have yet to see a game that adds the child raising aspect of it all in a fun and engaging way. Not looked at Hazumi since one of its really early releases though, should probably check it out again now it's complete.

Financial compensation was an idea I floated quite some time ago and to my surprise it seems quite an unpopular idea. Can't remember the reasoning though.
Yeah, I'm not really sure what I'd want out of any kind of child-raising system in the first place even given infinite time to implement it. It's a pretty sketchy idea to try to marry into an NSFW game in the first place, so I can certainly understand staying away from it. As for the pregnancy system, small pregnant women are absolutely adorable, which is all the justification this game really needs, so it's already a big success as far as I'm concerned.
 

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Main reason the children get taken away is because adding kids in a porn game is a sure fire way to end up banned from most platforms. Plus I have yet to see a game that adds the child raising aspect of it all in a fun and engaging way. Not looked at Hazumi since one of its really early releases though, should probably check it out again now it's complete.
Check last DoL's big update. It's literally all about pregnancy and raising your own offspring.
 

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DoL was also banned from Patreon.
DoL is a "funny" thing, honestly. Their disclaimer at the game's start screen is literal rephrasing of: "No, police officer! They all are 1000-years-old vampires! Please don't arrest me!" while themselves being a total "1984" on discord.

Still doesn't mean that there is no any useful harmless ideas that can be borrowed tho...
 
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I've never played DoL, but it doesn't sound necessary to look into for inspiration because Fixer isn't a life sim and it doesn't need mechanics for raising a child. Whether the government in Fixer takes the children because the people in charge genuinely don't trust normal people to do it right, or they have a nefarious motives behind the curtain, the end result is the same: the MC doesn't raise children in Fixer.

Dunno what people were thinking to say financial compensation was a bad idea when Sam_Tail first pitched the idea, I wasn't there. Color me equally surprised. But I do know the economy used to be very different and it was easy to get money. That may have been the deciding factor, idk. A financial bonus is usually a good enough incentive for people with money troubles, so it doesn't break the lore; and getting only 1k every 90-ish days isn't remotely game-breaking.
 
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I've never played DoL, but it doesn't sound necessary to look into for inspiration because Fixer isn't a life sim and it doesn't need mechanics for raising a child. Whether the government in Fixer takes the children because the people in charge genuinely don't trust normal people to do it right, or they have a nefarious motives behind the curtain, the end result is the same: the MC doesn't raise children in Fixer.

Dunno what people were thinking to say financial compensation was a bad idea when Sam_Tail first pitched the idea, I wasn't there. Color me equally surprised. But I do know the economy used to be very different and it was easy to get money. That may have been the deciding factor, idk. A financial bonus is usually a good enough incentive for people with money troubles, so it doesn't break the lore; and getting only 1k every 90-ish days isn't remotely game-breaking.
The lore suggests but doesn't directly state that it's an attempt to have an entire generation of indoctrinated people to eventually take over. The govt has basically decided to create obedient drones for the future. Can see some parallels in irl history and current day, but this is taken more to the extreme. The kids are not rehoused into good families but raised in large orphanages.

So with that, paying for babies would fit the lore pretty well. Though can't remember why people disliked it. I think it was because of the inhumane nature of it all.
 

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I've never played DoL, but it doesn't sound necessary to look into for inspiration because Fixer isn't a life sim and it doesn't need mechanics for raising a child. Whether the government in Fixer takes the children because the people in charge genuinely don't trust normal people to do it right, or they have a nefarious motives behind the curtain, the end result is the same: the MC doesn't raise children in Fixer.

Dunno what people were thinking to say financial compensation was a bad idea when Sam_Tail first pitched the idea, I wasn't there. Color me equally surprised. But I do know the economy used to be very different and it was easy to get money. That may have been the deciding factor, idk. A financial bonus is usually a good enough incentive for people with money troubles, so it doesn't break the lore; and getting only 1k every 90-ish days isn't remotely game-breaking.
Ok, since you so smart taking about things you never touched I'll explain to you: The Fixer and DoL almost identical gameplay-wise, the only differences those games have is that DoL is more text-based with minimum visuals and with more extreme fetishes inside. The Fixer is much "lite-er" game, but with a lot of visuals.
Now to the "life sim" part you so confidently stated - they BOTH life sims: you live in a house, meet people, do daily things, earn money for various reasons... that's what life sim is. Maybe it's not like some super realistic one, but still a life sim.

P.S. And yes, I know that Sam_Tail want to keep the game the way it is. If you'd pay more attention to what I'm saying, you would probably noticed that I said "harmless" ideas to be borrowed, because there is some really good ones since DoL even at this moment of being ver 0.4 is WAY bigger than The Fixer already.
 
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