Arcachnar

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At this point I got the quest of finding out about Mira. After I went with Cassie to the highway to find out more about Mira I got the message that I now must talk to Dan, police or Tucker.

I can now choose which one I want to talk to about this or should I talk to all of them? The problem is I have not got that far with the Fixer Quest. That means I have not been or talk to the police yet. So, I am worried if I got to the speak with the police that I am too late to save Mira. When speaking to Tucker it does not start the conversation about Mira either.
 

syfy88man

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At this point I got the quest of finding out about Mira. After I went with Cassie to the highway to find out more about Mira I got the message that I now must talk to Dan, police or Tucker.

I can now choose which one I want to talk to about this or should I talk to all of them? The problem is I have not got that far with the Fixer Quest. That means I have not been or talk to the police yet. So, I am worried if I got to the speak with the police that I am too late to save Mira. When speaking to Tucker it does not start the conversation about Mira either.
I have done all the other quest before I started this one, as for now, I am stuck at trying to talk to Dan, Tucker, or the police, none of them have any thing to say on Mira, so I think it not all in the game yet, but yea I am stuck at the part where I need to talk with them now.
 

syfy88man

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Does anyone know that when Samantha is forced to have sex with the guy she intimidates, she will start to like it and change the scene as if she liked it?
yea you can do this when she in the Heaven spot, she get raped a few times but after a while, she start liking it and even want to get force sex on her with people while she at the Heaven spot, plus in other area, like the school, when some of the guys try to talk with her, instead, she let them rape her and use her in the men bathroom at the school.
 
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yea you can do this when she in the Heaven spot, she get raped a few times but after a while, she start liking it and even want to get force sex on her with people while she at the Heaven spot, plus in other area, like the school, when some of the guys try to talk with her, instead, she let them rape her and use her in the men bathroom at the school.
Yes, but does the scenario change? He has a satisfied expression or he always has that tearful expression.
 

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At this point I got the quest of finding out about Mira. After I went with Cassie to the highway to find out more about Mira I got the message that I now must talk to Dan, police or Tucker.

I can now choose which one I want to talk to about this or should I talk to all of them? The problem is I have not got that far with the Fixer Quest. That means I have not been or talk to the police yet. So, I am worried if I got to the speak with the police that I am too late to save Mira. When speaking to Tucker it does not start the conversation about Mira either.
If memory serves, Mira's death timer won't start until the quest can actually be completed.
 

syfy88man

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If memory serves, Mira's death timer won't start until the quest can actually be completed.
then it must be bugged, as for me, I am at that point where we find out what she been doing, but as for the next part, it tells me to see Dan, or Tucker, or the police, but they not kicking in at all, plus I think if Cassie is getting knock up, or is knock up, that seems to delay the quest while Cassie deal with her growing belly, but then I noticed that when does let herself get a baby, she tend to keep going to get knock up more often as well.
 

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then it must be bugged, as for me, I am at that point where we find out what she been doing, but as for the next part, it tells me to see Dan, or Tucker, or the police, but they not kicking in at all, plus I think if Cassie is getting knock up, or is knock up, that seems to delay the quest while Cassie deal with her growing belly, but then I noticed that when does let herself get a baby, she tend to keep going to get knock up more often as well.
Yep just played a whole week and this is what I was getting, she knock up and all she says is testing and I am here
 
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I don't think sammy category as tran unless that char grew dick betweens the legs
I think you're mistaken, as that's a Hermaphrodite/Futanari which I'm sure is considered the "in between"/its own separate gender. By trans we're talking about going from Male to Female, but in this instance, it's just implanting a brain into a new body, which would technically make Sammy as trans.

Edit: I forgot to include that Trans women can still have penises too, if they choose to keep them during their transition.
 
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It depends on how much you associate with your new gender i suppose.

If you like dick and consider yourself male, then it's gay no matter what body you find yourself in.

Look at the intro of Male Start, for example. Having boobs and needing to wear bras now is one thing, but the thought of (other) guys trying to pick her up? Yeah, Sammy isn't looking forward to that. Within that mindset, Male start Sammy going for a lesbian would not be gay. Getting raped also has Sammy complain along the lines of "If i was still a guy i'd kick his ass" as she mentally still considers herself male.

Then a few weeks in when she's acclimatized to being a girl and, physically and mentally, is no different than someone born a girl, that's when dating a lesbian becomes gay. Even if it's the same one she's been dating from before. To me, it's definitely a matter of the ego.
I think I can settle with this idea/explanation. In Sammy's situation, I suppose their gender Identity does kind of fall down to their time and experiences with their new body. I just enjoy the philosophy/thought experiment of Sammy's unique situation, as in reality, as far as we know, no one has ever transitioned to the opposite gender in the way Sammy has.

I hope in future versions of this game, we'll get to see more of Sammy's (mtf) inner thoughts and see them notice the changes to their own mentality and reflect on them. Perhaps something like after a certain time and certain events, they (us the player) choose whether or not they want to slowly warm up to becoming more feminine, or if they'll firmly hold the belief that they're a guy, and will even flaunt that fact publicly (with all of its consequences in doing so). Perhaps even go in between the two and be just a guy that's playing the part of being a woman publicly to deceive others, but still acts and talks like a guy when in privacy.

I'm sure that's how it is in the game, but personally I just see it as Sammy's personality ONLY changing based on decisions the player makes for sexual encounters, with nothing else really having a notable affect

But then again, this is a porn game, and we're here for that and for fun, and I'm just trying to make things more complicated lol. Anyways, this game is a 10/10 for me, and I look forward to the dev reaching their finish line
 
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I think I can settle with this idea/explanation. In Sammy's situation, I suppose their gender Identity does kind of fall down to their time and experiences with their new body. I just enjoy the philosophy/thought experiment of Sammy's unique situation, as in reality, as far as we know, no one has ever transitioned to the opposite gender in the way Sammy has.

I hope in future versions of this game, we'll get to see more of Sammy's (mtf) inner thoughts and see them notice the changes to their own mentality and reflect on them. Perhaps something like after a certain time and certain events, they (us the player) choose whether or not they want to slowly warm up to becoming more feminine, or if they'll firmly hold the belief that they're a guy, and will even flaunt that fact publicly (with all of its consequences in doing so). Perhaps even go in between the two and be just a guy that's playing the part of being a woman publicly to deceive others, but still acts and talks like a guy when in privacy.

I'm sure that's how it is in the game, but personally I just see it as Sammy's personality ONLY changing based on decisions the player makes for sexual encounters, with nothing else really having a notable affect

But then again, this is a porn game, and we're here for that and for fun, and I'm just trying to make things more complicated lol. Anyways, this game is a 10/10 for me, and I look forward to the dev reaching their finish line
Oh, i agree. Personally i'd love for the Male Start stuff to continue on into the rest of the game, though i'm also aware that would require variations for most main quest dialogue. It is what it is i suppose: The way i'd handle it if the game got that far was a choice at the beginning on whether Sammy likes boys or girls regardless of Male or Female Origin, while not locking out the other option in dialogue. That'd cover the entire spectrum i believe.
 

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is there a way to change your perks or origins? I chose the wildcard start and its now got Sammy stuck on "BABBIES MAKE BABIES" and i would like that to stop.
 

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OK, I finally got her past the one spot but now stuck in a new spot, I figure the whores are the ones you need to talk with but none of them are talking to me.
 

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Oh, i agree. Personally i'd love for the Male Start stuff to continue on into the rest of the game, though i'm also aware that would require variations for most main quest dialogue. It is what it is i suppose: The way i'd handle it if the game got that far was a choice at the beginning on whether Sammy likes boys or girls regardless of Male or Female Origin, while not locking out the other option in dialogue. That'd cover the entire spectrum i believe.
I always thought it would have been cool if instead of just picking an origin it was more based on the dialogue voices you make at the beginning. like your first option would be something like
1A: WTF I'm a girl. = male start.
1B: WTF I look completely different. = female start.
2A: This is a dream come true. = Slut trait or something similar.
2B: this is a nightmare. = Bambi trait or something similar.

I'm not sure if it would impact that much in terms of quest dialogue. but I could have a big impact on Sammy's internal monologue. It could result in Sammy making comments like
"I love being a girl getting fucked feels so good"
or the opposite like
"I hate having to do this it is awful"
or something like "wonder if he would enjoy my pussy as much if he knew I was a man"
 

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I think you're mistaken, as that's a Hermaphrodite/Futanari which I'm sure is considered the "in between"/its own separate gender. By trans we're talking about going from Male to Female, but in this instance, it's just implanting a brain into a new body, which would technically make Sammy as trans.

Edit: I forgot to include that Trans women can still have penises too, if they choose to keep them during their transition.
it would would make it harder to actually search for the ones with dicks if it was applied this way since theyre not allowed to be tagged as futa but then again trans without dick is very rare since thats what people want from that tag usually.

i would say this game shouldnt get tagged as trans because the actual transition isnt being fetishized or shown nor do you have a dick so neither of both possible sexual elements of this tag are missing wich means its just a narrative element at that point.

you could allso argue the mc isnt actually trans because it was without their consent and its a completely new body that is geneticly female not an existing male body being altered into another gender

if someone made a game where you and a girl switch bodies that wouldnt be trans either unless you argue that you are now a male soul trapped in a female body wich might make you feel the same as a trans person before transition wich means the person would want to turn his new female body into a male again.

honestly i think its kind of a pointless tag usually people fetishizing something dont care about the identity of a person but they care about the inherent characteristics that they are drawn to (in this case transformation and or dickgirl), for example a lot of femboy characters out there dont say that they are femboys or femenine and they might even get angry in character if you call them that and see it as degrading because he thinks of himself as a normal man or boy but people still make porn of these characters as femboys and tag them as that because its what draws people to this character no matter how the character is written to feel about himself or his identity. These are porn tags at the end of the day youre supposed to find the stuff you want to jerk off to.

im not talking about real life btw porn and real life are very detatched from each other even if its irl porn.
 
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Not really an answer to the current topic and more just my thought process when writing the M2F aspect.

The topic of trans as a fetish or an identity is not something I am very familiar with so I decided right away I wouldn't attempt to tackle aspects on this topic. My limited understanding would more likely offend and upset people than hit the marks I would aim for

Instead I wanted to approach it from a different perspective. I imagined it as trading in your old car that you have been driving for 30? years and getting a new one. Of course you miss your old car since you had it for so long, but there is nothing wrong with your new one. There just happens to be a lot of differences you need to get used to.

Maybe your old car was a muscle car and your new one is a family sedan or something. So there is a fair bit of an adjustment period. But at the end of the day, both cars suited your needs and were decent vehicles. So instead of complaining about how your old car would do x thing better and crying how you miss it, you adapt yourself to the new car and figure out it's differences and work with them (I actually don't drive so don't know much about cars :) )

I hope in future versions of this game, we'll get to see more of Sammy's (mtf) inner thoughts and see them notice the changes to their own mentality and reflect on them. Perhaps something like after a certain time and certain events, they (us the player) choose whether or not they want to slowly warm up to becoming more feminine, or if they'll firmly hold the belief that they're a guy, and will even flaunt that fact publicly (with all of its consequences in doing so). Perhaps even go in between the two and be just a guy that's playing the part of being a woman publicly to deceive others, but still acts and talks like a guy when in privacy.

I'm sure that's how it is in the game, but personally I just see it as Sammy's personality ONLY changing based on decisions the player makes for sexual encounters, with nothing else really having a notable affect
The events on this are planned to be expanded. But it will always lead to the same place of male Sammy accepting the situation. The game is about Sammy and not the man or woman they used to be before the start of the game.

is there a way to change your perks or origins? I chose the wildcard start and its now got Sammy stuck on "BABBIES MAKE BABIES" and i would like that to stop.
In the current build, no. But I hope to have the psychologist working in the next public where you can change this stuff.

OK, I finally got her past the one spot but now stuck in a new spot, I figure the whores are the ones you need to talk with but none of them are talking to me.
The build you are playing is the leaked patreon version where the new quests are incomplete. Where you are is the end of the storyline for now.

I always thought it would have been cool if instead of just picking an origin it was more based on the dialogue voices you make at the beginning. like your first option would be something like
1A: WTF I'm a girl. = male start.
1B: WTF I look completely different. = female start.
2A: This is a dream come true. = Slut trait or something similar.
2B: this is a nightmare. = Bambi trait or something similar.

I'm not sure if it would impact that much in terms of quest dialogue. but I could have a big impact on Sammy's internal monologue. It could result in Sammy making comments like
"I love being a girl getting fucked feels so good"
or the opposite like
"I hate having to do this it is awful"
or something like "wonder if he would enjoy my pussy as much if he knew I was a man"
I had that in some of the earlier builds. While personally I thought it was quite good, a lot of people complained because they didn't know what they were picking or how to get x combination. It was also the purpose of the early game Emile dates but it was generally complained about.
 
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