RPGM Abandoned The Fox and Devil: Tales of Eleonora [Ch. 2 Final] [Somatra]

[alinexas]

Why path is blocked? How to unlock? I speak with Chief and still cave locked.

 

[Somatra]

I have one really important question: What part of development is the biggest financial burden? I know you mentioned that you “needed” to purchase a Desert tileset for RPGMV, though I would argue it is not necessary.

Sprites, tilesets, little softwares like grammar,photoshop,wondershare x, general hardware issues and the basic bills like electricity and water, in general I know the game won't get far without money, but to be honest I never expected it to be this bad, so I agree with the other developers on this point, "There is no reason to pay to work"

Still I agree with you that tilesets aren't absolutely necessary, but if not, we need to change the story and degrade the overall quality of the game, a game that simple won't impress anyone, to tell a story we don't want to, just to continue a project that people just don't like it.

I understand the part where the guys say that the part that makes the audience happy is a "good, solid, fun game that's worth the hours you put into it"

but honestly, based on the criticism and mistakes maded, I don't think people had fun playing Tales of Eleonora, I believed I was doing the right thing, but I wasn't, and that's it's okay it's a part of it.

I won't let myself out the line, most of the good things and bad things in this game were made by me, generally it's my fault if the 8 month game with 3~4 hours barely brings in $5 a month in funding.

 

[Somatra]

Why path is blocked? How to unlock? I speak with Chief and still cave locked.

You need to sleep (It's at quest in menu "Go to the inn and sleep")

 

[Filipis]

Sprites, tilesets, little softwares like grammar,photoshop,wondershare x, general hardware issues and the basic bills like electricity and water, in general I know the game won't get far without money, but to be honest I never expected it to be this bad, so I agree with the other developers on this point, "There is no reason to pay to work"

Still I agree with you that tilesets aren't absolutely necessary, but if not, we need to change the story and degrade the overall quality of the game, a game that simple won't impress anyone, to tell a story we don't want to, just to continue a project that people just don't like it.

I understand the part where the guys say that the part that makes the audience happy is a "good, solid, fun game that's worth the hours you put into it"

but honestly, based on the criticism and mistakes maded, I don't think people had fun playing Tales of Eleonora, I believed I was doing the right thing, but I wasn't, and that's it's okay it's a part of it.

I won't let myself out the line, most of the good things and bad things in this game were made by me, generally it's my fault if the 8 month game with 3~4 hours barely brings in $5 a month in funding.

Hmm, I'm also not gonna sit here and pretend the game failed because of marketing; RPGMV games are a tough sell these days, and unless the combat system is well done from the start (why make a game in RPGMV if you don't intend for the battles to be an important gameplay element). Grind of any kind should never be a requirement for progression, and the battles need to be engaging - but not purposefully over-saturated to extend the game time.

I think what you have here is a classic pitfall of RPGMV games: the combat should be an integral element of the experience, and it needs to be "perfect" from the start.

Obviously, that is not the only reason for this unfortunate series of events, but I reckon it's worth mentioning if you ever deign to try again.

 

[skullert]

i don't think this game is a falure.
the adult indee dev indestry, is just touph and the limitations that the most used platform (aka patreon) implaments, don't help indee devs at all.
very little creative freedom, very resticted on adult content, and than there is distubutions like steam, wich also tone down the adult content.
this market of games is just in a touph spot.
the game itself, it plays great, it looks amazing, it is interesting.
unfortuanly with the bloath and cancelt projects in the recent years, people don't want to risk spending money, on in development games, out of fear, it will never be completed.
i fall in the last one, fear it will be cancelt, before it is completed, and having wasted my investment to that point.

both this one and somarta, i am interested in buying the compleet version.
unfortuanly, not allot of spending money, to risk investing a project that might never see compleetion.
these are just my honest words.
as regretfull as it is.

 

[HyperV]

Damn this one I was gonna watch and try out the new balance updates, had I known there were funding issues I would've had a look through patreon.

 

[Somatra]

Damn this one I was gonna watch and try out the new balance updates, had I known there were funding issues I would've had a look through patreon.

The new combat balance as made by my friend who is a math teacher is pretty good now

 

[Somatra]

I talked to the other developers and they're going to start a new project just for them and officially give me the game. They said, "Do whataver you want", so now I'm the sole owner of Tales of Eleonora, which doesn't mean I'll continue to develop it because it's impossible to do that alone, but I'll keep the download links active and answer the community's questions and fix a bug or two if happens.

 

[HyperV]

I talked to the other developers and they're going to start a new project just for them and officially give me the game. They said, "Do whataver you want", so now I'm the sole owner of Tales of Eleonora, which doesn't mean I'll continue to develop it because it's impossible to do that alone, but I'll keep the download links active and answer the community's questions and fix a bug or two if happens.

Would you potentially look at other developers in the future then? I did read that you mentioned both the name and balance was key issues for the kickoff, I advise that it can be simply marketing first impressions too. Good renders, thread banner (F95) latest updates page mainly shows this, etc. I commend you for understanding where issues like these go wrong at first glance.

 

[skullert]

I talked to the other developers and they're going to start a new project just for them and officially give me the game. They said, "Do whataver you want", so now I'm the sole owner of Tales of Eleonora, which doesn't mean I'll continue to develop it because it's impossible to do that alone, but I'll keep the download links active and answer the community's questions and fix a bug or two if happens.

shame, but understandible.
if this project is getting abbandond, my statement from earlyer comes to mind.
the problem of the industry, and the gerne of the game, just make it near impossible to gather a decent income for 100% devotion.
i still want to wish you luck, and i hope your other game project will still see development.
as i do still wish to buy the completed version of it.
though i whish i could buy the completed version of this one as well.
unfortuanly, that no longer seams possible.
wich is a shame, it was fun while it lasted.

 

[Filipis]

I talked to the other developers and they're going to start a new project just for them and officially give me the game. They said, "Do whataver you want", so now I'm the sole owner of Tales of Eleonora, which doesn't mean I'll continue to develop it because it's impossible to do that alone, but I'll keep the download links active and answer the community's questions and fix a bug or two if happens.

May I ask: what was your role in this team? Were you the programmer, artist, or writer?

 

[bluerubber]

I keep getting failed to load several images when I start a game. I can only get just past the title screen right after it talks about her mother dying. Is there something I am doing wrong? I tried the gofile and workupload files and both have same error.

Failed to load !lights, soldier01, Citizen4, Citizen3, soldier04, Citizen2, Citizen1

 

[Somatra]

May I ask: what was your role in this team? Were you the programmer, artist, or writer?

Artist,animator,writer,Cm,Tester, and i mix everything in rpgmaker mv, we had a programmer how fixed scripts manytimes to be compatible with android, and a mapper how did all the game maps

 

[Somatra]

I keep getting failed to load several images when I start a game. I can only get just past the title screen right after it talks about her mother dying. Is there something I am doing wrong? I tried the gofile and workupload files and both have same error.

Failed to load !lights, soldier01, Citizen4, Citizen3, soldier04, Citizen2, Citizen1

Try to use winrar to extract files.

 

[Somatra]

Would you potentially look at other developers in the future then? I did read that you mentioned both the name and balance was key issues for the kickoff, I advise that it can be simply marketing first impressions too. Good renders, thread banner (F95) latest updates page mainly shows this, etc. I commend you for understanding where issues like these go wrong at first glance.

probably not, I'll focus on finishing the somatra then I'll see what I do

 

[Somatra]

shame, but understandible.
if this project is getting abbandond, my statement from earlyer comes to mind.
the problem of the industry, and the gerne of the game, just make it near impossible to gather a decent income for 100% devotion.
i still want to wish you luck, and i hope your other game project will still see development.
as i do still wish to buy the completed version of it.
though i whish i could buy the completed version of this one as well.
unfortuanly, that no longer seams possible.
wich is a shame, it was fun while it lasted.

If you wanted you can suport my other game to patreon, i won't lie would be great i used to get 250$ with somatra now i'm arround 190$ and this is a lot of difference, to pays my bills.

 

[logansurvive]

Artist,animator,writer,Cm,Tester, and i mix everything in rpgmaker mv, we had a programmer how fixed scripts manytimes to be compatible with android, and a mapper how did all the game maps

For the android to be playable. I suggest that you should tell the others to use joiplay plugin if they want to play this game in their android phone. It is compatible with pc version and i didn't encounter any issues while playing on it. It's a decent plugin for rpgm pc game to play on android. That way you don't need to worry about having it to be compatible for Android and fix android's issues and focus solely for pc version. But it's too late to suggest it now i guess since we won't be expecting an update for this game anymore... Imo this game is the one of the best one so far despite it being 3dcg which i dislikes it. But the plot, writing and other stuffs is decent and promising. Especially the protagonist character design. I like their fox form the most. I still have my hopes somewhere for this game project to rise up again. Just coping that one day this game will have someone else to continue the development.

 

[Somatra]

For the android to be playable. I suggest that you should tell the others to use joiplay plugin if they want to play this game in their android phone. It is compatible with pc version and i didn't encounter any issues while playing on it. It's a decent plugin for rpgm pc game to play on android. That way you don't need to worry about having it to be compatible for Android and fix android's issues and focus solely for pc version. But it's too late to suggest it now i guess since we won't be expecting an update for this game anymore... Imo this game is the one of the best one so far despite it being 3dcg which i dislikes it. But the plot, writing and other stuffs is decent and promising. Especially the protagonist character design. I like their fox form the most. I still have my hopes somewhere for this game project to rise up again. Just coping that one day this game will have someone else to continue the development.

Thank you, i'll keep the support for this game active, for now i'll focus on somatra.

 

[bluerubber]

Try to use winrar to extract files.

Didn't work. Same errors.

Actually, I tried installing and not replacing the fix file map7 and the game properly loads... so the fix is not a fix then?

 

[Somatra]

Didn't work. Same errors.

Actually, I tried installing and not replacing the fix file map7 and the game properly loads... so the fix is not a fix then?

Make no sense map7 it's just to fix a npc, there is relation between light error and the map 7