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vyquaquay

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Aug 17, 2019
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the map007 fix file is what I was referring to, grab the map file and replace it. it will file the light problem... you could also read the 10 or so comment conversation I had about it with dev right above it
The map007 file in the #308 cmt work. The game is working now. Tks you
 
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Arikania

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I ruined my savegame; there were several things I wanted to do, for which my corruption wasn't high enough. But then I went to save the slaves from the pirates, only to learn at the very end that it would end chapter 2.

The game did ask me if I wanted to release the slaves, warning me that it would end chapter 2. I replied "no", but I can't go back to Orion anymore to continue the game. So effectively, I can do nothing else bit release those slaves, missing out on corruption 2 content :(

Think I'm gonna start a new game then...
 

Somatra

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Mar 15, 2021
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I ruined my savegame; there were several things I wanted to do, for which my corruption wasn't high enough. But then I went to save the slaves from the pirates, only to learn at the very end that it would end chapter 2.

The game did ask me if I wanted to release the slaves, warning me that it would end chapter 2. I replied "no", but I can't go back to Orion anymore to continue the game. So effectively, I can do nothing else bit release those slaves, missing out on corruption 2 content :(

Think I'm gonna start a new game then...
you don't need it, after chapter 2 you'll go to interlude again and you can do all the corruption things
 

Arikania

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Is there a way to increase my lewdness before then?
you don't need it, after chapter 2 you'll go to interlude again and you can do all the corruption things
Is there a way to increase my lewdness before then? All events I encountered so far give corruption only once. Are there repeatable events to increase it?

And is having those 5 slaves killed really the only option that the game has at this point? Being given those options presented, one of which requires corruption >= 2, implies that I should be able to have that level of curruption already.
 
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vyquaquay

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Aug 17, 2019
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Could you make some function like find the house/character automatically for this game. I can't remember all the name of character and they location, especially if it the first time I meet them and the quest require to go to they location. It took me kinda long to find out where are they. Or if the minimap could show up the name of the house maybe we will easier to track the location.
 

Somatra

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Is there a way to increase my lewdness before then?

Is there a way to increase my lewdness before then? All events I encountered so far give corruption only once. Are there repeatable events to increase it?

And is having those 5 slaves killed really the only option that the game has at this point? Being given those options presented, one of which requires corruption >= 2, implies that I should be able to have that level of curruption already.
There is several ways to increase corruption until this point, you can;
Lose to slime,man eater and wolf.
Talk to Asami at her house and get all the Blu events,
Find kiara at forest south
Find Lizards at Cavern in swamp
Shaman at lizard village.
Find a old paper in hunters house
Find kiara at forest south
After blu cavern events you can find a old Carriage at forest 1
Pay 30 golds for a massage in orion village
Find the Newbie monk at forest swamp with corruption 2 you'll be able to get even more corrupion.
after getting enough love trought blu you can surrender to slime, man eater and wolfs
after getting "buddy" in the old carriage at forest 1 you can masturbate in you bedroom
Bath at forest 2


this should be more than enough to reach corruption 2 before going to pirate quest, there is more

Those cg's are enabled after chapter 1 ex: pay 30 gold for a massage
 

Somatra

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Mar 15, 2021
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Could you make some function like find the house/character automatically for this game. I can't remember all the name of character and they location, especially if it the first time I meet them and the quest require to go to they location. It took me kinda long to find out where are they. Or if the minimap could show up the name of the house maybe we will easier to track the location.
Hi vyquaquay the game won't be update anymore, we can't get finnacial support for it, so the other devs give up, i'm here just giving suport
 

vyquaquay

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Aug 17, 2019
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Hi vyquaquay the game won't be update anymore, we can't get finnacial support for it, so the other devs give up, i'm here just giving suport
Sorry about the game. So do u have any walkthrough for the chapter 2? I want to complete the greatest artist quest
 

Arikania

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Feb 10, 2023
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There is several ways to increase corruption until this point, you can;
Lose to slime,man eater and wolf.
Talk to Asami at her house and get all the Blu events,
Find kiara at forest south
Find Lizards at Cavern in swamp
Shaman at lizard village.
Find a old paper in hunters house
Find kiara at forest south
After blu cavern events you can find a old Carriage at forest 1
Pay 30 golds for a massage in orion village
Find the Newbie monk at forest swamp with corruption 2 you'll be able to get even more corrupion.
after getting enough love trought blu you can surrender to slime, man eater and wolfs
after getting "buddy" in the old carriage at forest 1 you can masturbate in you bedroom
Bath at forest 2


this should be more than enough to reach corruption 2 before going to pirate quest, there is more

Those cg's are enabled after chapter 1 ex: pay 30 gold for a massage
which of those are repeatables?
 

Arikania

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Feb 10, 2023
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Hi vyquaquay the game won't be update anymore, we can't get finnacial support for it, so the other devs give up, i'm here just giving suport
Making money on a yet incomplete game would be hard ofc.
What would be needed to have this game continue? This game is truly unique, and I feel that it should, one way or the other, come to completion.

I opened a conversation with you about it
 
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Somatra

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Making money on a yet incomplete game would be hard ofc.
What would be needed to have this game continue? This game is truly unique, and I feel that it should, one way or the other, come to completion.

I opened a conversation with you about it
I will try to summarize the history of the game to illustrate the problem. We develop the game with three people: a programmer, a mapper (who draws the game's maps) and me, who does everything else. Up to this point, I had most of the work, which I honestly didn't mind.

The problem is that the game was supposed to have 12 chapters and 1 extra chapter, so 13 in total. Since we wouldn't make the decision to continue the project or not until we delivered chapter 5, about 40 to 45% of the game, if it was financially worthwhile to continue, our financial plan was that each of us would gradually quit our respective jobs to devote ourselves full time to the game. We came to the conclusion that $1500 would be enough to devote more time to the game. We split the money between 3 people, with me getting the biggest chunk, about 50%, and the others getting 25% and 25% depending on how much responsibility each member had.

So we started developing the idea. Unfortunately, the game didn't do very well in its first chapter due to poor balance, which I was responsible for because I didn't have enough math skills to solve the problem.

The development group agreed to fund the 2nd chapter out of their own pockets, which cost about 70$ to produce and required even more (sprits, tilesets, music, software). After we released the second chapter, it wasn't well received either because the balance wasn't ready,

my mathematician friend and I released 2.5 (The new version) The cost of developing the third chapter was about 80 dollars, while the game made about 7 dollars in the meantime. We came to the conclusion that the game was not accepted by the community mainly because of my mistake and that it was a waste of time and resources, because although it is only 6~8 months old game, many of the early versions have much more founding than Tales of Eleonora achieved during its development.

So one guy said "well makes no sense pay to work" i'm out, the other said i agree i'm out too,
and the project was ended.
 

Arikania

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Feb 10, 2023
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I will try to summarize the history of the game to illustrate the problem. We develop the game with three people: a programmer, a mapper (who draws the game's maps) and me, who does everything else. Up to this point, I had most of the work, which I honestly didn't mind.

The problem is that the game was supposed to have 12 chapters and 1 extra chapter, so 13 in total. Since we wouldn't make the decision to continue the project or not until we delivered chapter 5, about 40 to 45% of the game, if it was financially worthwhile to continue, our financial plan was that each of us would gradually quit our respective jobs to devote ourselves full time to the game. We came to the conclusion that $1500 would be enough to devote more time to the game. We split the money between 3 people, with me getting the biggest chunk, about 50%, and the others getting 25% and 25% depending on how much responsibility each member had.

So we started developing the idea. Unfortunately, the game didn't do very well in its first chapter due to poor balance, which I was responsible for because I didn't have enough math skills to solve the problem.

The development group agreed to fund the 2nd chapter out of their own pockets, which cost about 70$ to produce and required even more (sprits, tilesets, music, software). After we released the second chapter, it wasn't well received either because the balance wasn't ready,

my mathematician friend and I released 2.5 (The new version) The cost of developing the third chapter was about 80 dollars, while the game made about 7 dollars in the meantime. We came to the conclusion that the game was not accepted by the community mainly because of my mistake and that it was a waste of time and resources, because although it is only 6~8 months old game, many of the early versions have much more founding than Tales of Eleonora achieved during its development.

So one guy said "well makes no sense pay to work" i'm out, the other said i agree i'm out too,
and the project was ended.
Personally, I think that it was a mistake for them to bail out. I'd still love you to join the Discord that I mentioned in the conversation, and see if it's, somehow, possible to come to a solution.

I really feel that The Fox and the Devil stands out from most other RPGM's, and that it has a lot of potential.

Let's see how many people are going to like this post...
 

Emergency Brain

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Jul 14, 2024
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Um... hey, Do I need to start a new save every time the game has an update? why can't I find my old save? ( I love this game )
 

Belphegor007

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Hi vyquaquay the game won't be update anymore, we can't get finnacial support for it, so the other devs give up, i'm here just giving suport
You were always going to fail if you thought you were going to find massive financial success this fast.
Sorry that is happened especially considering you did put effort posting here, but with your teammates attitudes you were never going to succeed.
This isn't free money and it's always a gamble as shitty cookie cutter games and ones that never update can make bank while others fall through the cracks.
The boom of porn games during covid is over, the economy fucking sucks, and you have to put in money sometimes up front like any business venture.

You guys trying to quit your day jobs so fast is also extremely fucking dumb as most do both until they make enough money to quit while some just never quit their day job.
Despite what the real popular porn games that make bank but never do shit this isn't easy money.
Also a lot of the big games are from established people or came first.
 
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Somatra

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Mar 15, 2021
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You were always going to fail if you thought you were going to find massive financial success this fast.
Sorry that is happened especially considering you did put effort posting here, but with your teammates attitudes you were never going to succeed.
This isn't free money and it's always a gamble as shitty cookie cutter games and ones that never update can make bank while others fall through the cracks.
The boom of porn games during covid is over, the economy fucking sucks, and you have to put in money sometimes up front like any business venture.

You guys trying to quit your day jobs so fast is also extremely fucking dumb as most do both until they make enough money to quit while some just never quit their day job.
Despite what the real popular porn games that make bank but never do shit this isn't easy money.
Also a lot of the big games are from established people or came first.
I agree with you but i agree with my teammates too, i know it's not easy and fast money i've somatra still trying to live from it, but 7$ in 8 months its zero founding at all, there is a lot of 0.1 game that makes 50$~80$ at first version, well shit happens little i can do it right now
 

Filipis

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I agree with you but i agree with my teammates too, i know it's not easy and fast money i've somatra still trying to live from it, but 7$ in 8 months its zero founding at all, there is a lot of 0.1 game that makes 50$~80$ at first version, well shit happens little i can do it right now
If you only got 7$ in 8 months of this game being "published", then you (the team) severely mishandled this game. Even if you released this game on Steam for 1$ asking price, you would've been in the hundreds by now.
 
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