- Thread starter Muff Diver
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I'm sad to hear that he abandonned the game. I see people don't understand why he drops it like that and he should have continued even with his personnal problems assuming it's something just "bothering" without considering the possibility that it may be something really serious, he didn't told what it is and he does not have to, its his private life.
Maybe he just got tired of the game maybe it's something serious in his family we don't know, but what I see is that unlike to some if not most creators he wasn't idle for month never giving news or anything and one day woke up to tell "Hey I've done nnothing for months you all gave money for nothing but now that I have enough I'm just here to tell you that I quit but don't suspend my campaign in case some morons are not up to date and don't delete their pledges. Fuckittybye !"
He has at least the honesty to bring something just before quitting (v0.04 was short but we don't know if it's related to today's news or not) and he tells that he is actually quitting and he suspends his campaign before -maybe- returning.
It's sad because it was a really good game but he has been giving regular news and updates and now that he is quitting he does not disapear without a word continuing to gain money for nothing. I just hope he is alright and that one day he shall come back.
Maybe he just got tired of the game maybe it's something serious in his family we don't know, but what I see is that unlike to some if not most creators he wasn't idle for month never giving news or anything and one day woke up to tell "Hey I've done nnothing for months you all gave money for nothing but now that I have enough I'm just here to tell you that I quit but don't suspend my campaign in case some morons are not up to date and don't delete their pledges. Fuckittybye !"
He has at least the honesty to bring something just before quitting (v0.04 was short but we don't know if it's related to today's news or not) and he tells that he is actually quitting and he suspends his campaign before -maybe- returning.
It's sad because it was a really good game but he has been giving regular news and updates and now that he is quitting he does not disapear without a word continuing to gain money for nothing. I just hope he is alright and that one day he shall come back.
After the last escene of version 0.04 instead of the lame screen end of current content of this version.
"roleplaying mode on"
"Meanwhile in the office of Dr.Mindlos he was deep focussed on his own thougts"
Dr.Mindlos: I need to think of a way to kill (insert chossen player name) i hope Miranda found something already about his whereabouts.
"A few hours later Miranda knocked the door of the office of Dr.Mindlos"
Miranda: Master Mindlos i brought some relevant information , it isnt exactly what you were expecting but please take a look at these documents.
Dr.Mindlos: good job Miranda , you can leave the documents at my desk and i will take a look at them later.
"After Miranda drooped the documents on the desk of Dr.Mindlos"
Dr.Mindlos: you can retreat for now Miranda and continue in stand by mode waiting for new orders.
"Miranda left the office"
"After Miranda left, Dr.Mindlos beggan to read carefully the documents and what he found was an utterly ridiculous thing"
Dr.Mindlos: What is this? Who is this Mr.ZZ guy that is written in those documents and what is "The gift reloaded"?
"After searching for a while the web he found out that The gift reloaded was a simply game under developement then he downloaded it throught some site called F95 zone and during the night he played the game from start to end and then morning came"
Dr.Mindlos: What the hell? im starring in a game and this guy called Mr.ZZ dares to make me the villain? and the MC gets to fullfill every man wish to get a full harem of slaves? a villain ussually never wins vs a MC i need to rethink my options.
Dr.Mindlos: Miranda come to my office now.
"Miranda quickly entered the office of Dr.Mindlos"
Miranda: Master Mindlos is there something i can do today to serve you?
Dr.Mindlos: Yes, change of plans, forget all about (insert chossen player name) and focus on finding any relevant information of this guy called Mr.ZZ, we will cause chaos in his life and put and end to this nonsensical game, if i cant win vs the MC atleast i will stop the game and he will never gonna get his dream of a harem full of slaves.
Miranda: As you wish master Mindlos.
"Then Miranda left the office and misteriously 2 days later Mr.ZZ announced that he will stop developing The gift reloaded"
"roleplaying mode off"
well sorry for the long post, i was a little depressed about the news of the game being abandoned and i wanted to pass some time making an alternative ending that i think it makes more sense than the current one ingame, i will stick with this alternative ending till Mr.ZZ says the contrary.
"roleplaying mode on"
"Meanwhile in the office of Dr.Mindlos he was deep focussed on his own thougts"
Dr.Mindlos: I need to think of a way to kill (insert chossen player name) i hope Miranda found something already about his whereabouts.
"A few hours later Miranda knocked the door of the office of Dr.Mindlos"
Miranda: Master Mindlos i brought some relevant information , it isnt exactly what you were expecting but please take a look at these documents.
Dr.Mindlos: good job Miranda , you can leave the documents at my desk and i will take a look at them later.
"After Miranda drooped the documents on the desk of Dr.Mindlos"
Dr.Mindlos: you can retreat for now Miranda and continue in stand by mode waiting for new orders.
"Miranda left the office"
"After Miranda left, Dr.Mindlos beggan to read carefully the documents and what he found was an utterly ridiculous thing"
Dr.Mindlos: What is this? Who is this Mr.ZZ guy that is written in those documents and what is "The gift reloaded"?
"After searching for a while the web he found out that The gift reloaded was a simply game under developement then he downloaded it throught some site called F95 zone and during the night he played the game from start to end and then morning came"
Dr.Mindlos: What the hell? im starring in a game and this guy called Mr.ZZ dares to make me the villain? and the MC gets to fullfill every man wish to get a full harem of slaves? a villain ussually never wins vs a MC i need to rethink my options.
Dr.Mindlos: Miranda come to my office now.
"Miranda quickly entered the office of Dr.Mindlos"
Miranda: Master Mindlos is there something i can do today to serve you?
Dr.Mindlos: Yes, change of plans, forget all about (insert chossen player name) and focus on finding any relevant information of this guy called Mr.ZZ, we will cause chaos in his life and put and end to this nonsensical game, if i cant win vs the MC atleast i will stop the game and he will never gonna get his dream of a harem full of slaves.
Miranda: As you wish master Mindlos.
"Then Miranda left the office and misteriously 2 days later Mr.ZZ announced that he will stop developing The gift reloaded"
"roleplaying mode off"
well sorry for the long post, i was a little depressed about the news of the game being abandoned and i wanted to pass some time making an alternative ending that i think it makes more sense than the current one ingame, i will stick with this alternative ending till Mr.ZZ says the contrary.
I just finished playing the recent update a couple of days ago and then I hear this. I hope whatever is wrong get resolved and he is able to finish this game.
- Jun 23, 2017
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Sad to hear that Mrzz has to abandon the game, I like it very much compared to his former one
- Jun 2, 2017
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Bad news indeed :'( .. this game is/was one of my favorites , i keep my hopes up since Mrzz said "I have so many plans and ideas for this game, I can't simply let it die." .
Mrzz ,wherever you are, whatever you are doing , i hope you are doing well and about your "private issues" we hope it will be resolved soon ...
Mrzz , I wish you all the best !
Mrzz ,wherever you are, whatever you are doing , i hope you are doing well and about your "private issues" we hope it will be resolved soon ...
Mrzz , I wish you all the best !
Wow fuck this guy. I almost supported him, good thing I stopped myself. Still would be pledging in the next month or the one afterwards because I really liked the game and had faith in the guy to see it through (since I've followed it since he made no money).
And I don't care what reasons he might have had. He still took a large sum of money monthly, and as other people said, this money came from the goodwill of people who wanted to see the project to completion, not as payment for what was already done. That's what Patreon is supposed to be. Instead, have him bail on them with no explanation other than "Sorry guyz, personal stuff. Totally gonna be back someday"
And I don't care what reasons he might have had. He still took a large sum of money monthly, and as other people said, this money came from the goodwill of people who wanted to see the project to completion, not as payment for what was already done. That's what Patreon is supposed to be. Instead, have him bail on them with no explanation other than "Sorry guyz, personal stuff. Totally gonna be back someday"
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This kind of complete lack of professionalism, commitement and respect for the customer/supporter is what keeps western erotic games of getting anywhere.
- May 28, 2017
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What you're describing is essentially Kickstarter. Not Patreon. Patreon is based on donation. There is no binding rule that it needs completion. You're donating money to the content creator. The content creator does not work for you. You are not their employer.
A lot of the content creator are amateurs, that's why many had the "oh if we reach this amount then I quit my job" tier. Why expect professionalism from amateurs? Again, it's not their job.
And how exactly does it make acceptable to just bail out like this?
I'm well aware the supporters are not the emploeyers, even on Kickstarter that wouldn't be true. But it is obvious that people supporting a game dev on Patreon are, at bare minimum, expecting the game to be seen to completion. And when you are making a couple thousand bucks a month, even as an amateur I don't think it is unreasonable to expect some kind of commmitment or at least respect. Amateur does not mean responsability-free. He can, legally speaking, stop whenever he wants, but come on. It's hard to call someone who does this anything other than a scammer.
And the huge amount of devs pulling this shit kills trust in the adult game scene as a whole, and on Patreon as platform for adult games.
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- Apr 26, 2017
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you have a point, I won't deny that but the other guy has a point. When it comes to amateur devs you don't really want to expect nothing, same applies for other type of jobs and companies. I'm not saying that he did a smart move with the amount of money he was making, he could've hire somebody, but base on some cases, some "assistants/employees" can just run away with the assets and create their own stuff. A good example is breeding season, some people had high expectations of the game, and they were getting a big amount of money, but that didn't stop the one of the dev (if my memory doesn't fail me) to run away with the assets
- May 6, 2017
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I don't see how any of that goes against my point at all. Just more examples of incompetence, unprofessionalism and malice.
I can't really blame the people who don't support anything anymore, after today I'm reevaluating everything I currently support, because I really had trust in Mr. ZZ and his project despite not pledging to him yet.
Not all that related to the quote I just replied to, I just want to elaborate a bit on my feelings and thoughts about Patreon projects. I get the point that Patreon is for supporting content creators you like and not funding a project. But that is true only to a certain extent. When the content creator does things like a youtube show, writers a blog, has a daily/weekly webcomic or strip, and other open ended content without a set goal like that, yes, Patreon is just a form of support without much future commitment. You are giving him money for content that already is, for the time you consider it worth supporting.
When the content is a game, a heavily serialized comic or animation, and other similar things with a clear finishing line, I think the above doesn't apply as much. People who are supporting early builds of a game or pages of a 100-page long comic are pledging on the promise of that finished content, and to give their monthly support so the content creator can deliver on it. I really don't see how anyone can argue otherwise.
I agree it sounds like Kickstarter. That's why most comic projects are Kickstarter, even. But there is a key difference: on Kickstarter, most of the money is supposed to go to the funding and execution of the project. Things will only start if the goal is met, and that goal is a projection of how much will be spent to do the whole thing. The content creator doesn't get that much out of being kickstarted along, unless we're looking at a huge success. Moreover, Kickstarted projects are usually sold regularly afterwards.
Patreon is income. The dev may use that money to help sustaining themselves and by consequence, keep the project afloat. It's not money directed at the project, but at the maintenance of the creator. And most of the time, Patreon content is free, with some benefits for the supporters like early access or exclusive bonus content.
Kickstarter also depends on a previous reputation to attract attention and trust, while on Patreon you can build your reputation over time. This is why Patreon works for porn game developers while a Kickstarter style crowdfunding wouldn't. A pitch of a porn game is much harder to sell than a game you are constantly updating and making avaliable. A game that would die a painful and silent death on crowdfunding can flourish on Patreon, which is why I think most of the serious devs out there still opt for Patreon and other forms of donation.
And this is why every time something like this happen it is a huge blow. Lots of people that trusted a guy who did this won't trust the next promising new guy that shows up.
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Sorry to ask, why is it abandoned? I have been working and had little time to post anything on the site for about two to maybe three months if I think about. The Gift, first game is good but Reloaded is a bit like some drama series too much thinking not simple like the first game The Gift. I just like to know why is it Abandoned?.