- Thread starter Muff Diver
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- May 28, 2017
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I disagree with this. The concept of donation remains the same because the platform of patreon remains the same. Think about it this way. If you're a patron for a porn game, what you get is early access for the release. If you aren't a patron, you'd get the same release for free later (or you pirate the game anyway). Your donation buys you time (early access), not the product.
If completion of the game development is crucial, then Kickstarter is the platform for such thing.
- Mar 13, 2017
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Actually what keeps western erotic games from getting anywhere is the reluctance of game studios to wager on something which would be pilloried in the press (and certain governments) and cause more grief than they are worth. Easier to make another game where you get to shoot someone in the head, much less controversial
What we need is a western version of Illusion.Fair enough. Though I was talking about the amateur scene specifically.Actually what keeps western erotic games from getting anywhere is the reluctance of game studios to wager on something which would be pilloried in the press (and certain governments) and cause more grief than they are worth. Easier to make another game where you get to shoot someone in the head, much less controversial
There's basically no hope of we ever have a budding semi-professional market for h-games like in Japan with how much the media and some groups in western society like to attack videogames and porn separatedly. A porn game getting visibility would just get teared down by the media machine who would certainly link it to pedophilia somehow.
- Aug 13, 2017
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Damn shame. It did seem rather odd that sex with your Mom, and Sister came out of nowhere. No special scene. No dialogue. Just a quick: "Hey, Let's fuck." I get that they're your slaves by that point, but it was too quick. You can't savor all the little emotions by doing that.
The biggest crime here is that the Sister in this game is absolutely gorgeous. Her face, her body, everything about her was stunning. Now, we won't see her for a very long time. If anyone can identify her model, or a game that uses her as well, let me know. We can't let such a pretty face go to waste.
The biggest crime here is that the Sister in this game is absolutely gorgeous. Her face, her body, everything about her was stunning. Now, we won't see her for a very long time. If anyone can identify her model, or a game that uses her as well, let me know. We can't let such a pretty face go to waste.
- May 6, 2017
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At risk of sounding like a 3rd grader, I say YOU were the one ruining it. Well, OK, you and Jesus.
- May 28, 2017
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Sorry just had the time now to write a proper reply because I think it's good to be able to have a discussion about this.
For example, if a game dev said they'd release an update every month, that means their responsibility is simply to produce that. If the game went from 0.2 to 0.7 (0.1 is the free demo), and the project has gone for 6 months, that means they've fulfilled their responsibilities of releasing an update every month. Their responsibility is on month by month basis. If they quit before it is completed, they still have fulfilled their responsibilities up to that point. And because they cancelled the patreon page (which means patrons don't get charged for next month), there is no longer transaction between the patron and the creator.
As I've mentioned earlier, what you're expecting is more for Kickstarter. Kickstarter is different than Patreon because Kickstarter calculated the amount of money needed to complete the project and it only started work if that target is reached. Therefore, the transaction is "Backers giving money to fund the completion of the game". So once the fund is raised, it is the developer's responsibility to complete the game. If they didn't complete the game despite reaching the target goal, then I'd support you to say "F you" to them.
There's a big difference between our reactions. Your reaction (anger) was under assumption that they ran away with the money. My reaction (neutral) was not based on the disaster. Because we have no idea what really happened, I chose not to have a strong reaction either positive or negative. I didn't defend the creator. I was simply against saying "F you" to them when I didn't know the reason they stopped the project.
And you're well within your rights to do so. You are free to choose who to support and why. However, if you're looking at patreon, you might be at the wrong platform because patreon is pretty much for an on-going support that is mostly for an on-going project with no guarantee that it'd ever get completed. So if you're donating with the expectation to get something more than your tier-reward, that's probably a case of you wanting more than what they offer which could lead to your disappointment.
I think you misunderstand what I'm saying. I'm not saying content creator not needing to have responsibilities. They still have responsibilities to produce what they said they would. But you need to understand that their responsibilities are pretty much tied to the monthly goals and that's about it.
For example, if a game dev said they'd release an update every month, that means their responsibility is simply to produce that. If the game went from 0.2 to 0.7 (0.1 is the free demo), and the project has gone for 6 months, that means they've fulfilled their responsibilities of releasing an update every month. Their responsibility is on month by month basis. If they quit before it is completed, they still have fulfilled their responsibilities up to that point. And because they cancelled the patreon page (which means patrons don't get charged for next month), there is no longer transaction between the patron and the creator.
As I've mentioned earlier, what you're expecting is more for Kickstarter. Kickstarter is different than Patreon because Kickstarter calculated the amount of money needed to complete the project and it only started work if that target is reached. Therefore, the transaction is "Backers giving money to fund the completion of the game". So once the fund is raised, it is the developer's responsibility to complete the game. If they didn't complete the game despite reaching the target goal, then I'd support you to say "F you" to them.
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If this thread needs to be locked until further notice. Your word shall be my command
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Very sad news for this game we only hope he resolve the personal issues he have and return to work for the game first time i played the game and is very god the only thing that i like more in this game is at least you cant stop mom from getting fucked from that guy how she date dont chose sexy dress for her and done not like innocent mother game how whatever choice you make she get fucked and say ops its dream only.
- Mar 24, 2017
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Im So upset that this is ending... but at least he did it the right way. He could have went MiA like some of these devs, never to be seen again and with that cash faucet still running. Good luck to the Dev and may his problems come to a good end.
Shame to see this go but it kinda explains the last version. At least he took the honorable way out and told people instead of cashing in a few extra months.
be aware that he did not say he'd be gone only a month, it was left open ended. I would say follow MrZZ's advice and stop your pledges manually and then restart once he comes back. I would hate for someone to let things work and then a month later start to being charged because Patreon only lets the devs suspend apparently one month at a time. be aware of everything. I personally wish MRZZ speedy resolution to his IRL problems, and a quick return to making good things for us!
- May 23, 2017
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Kudos to MRZZ for being upfront and telling his Patreons to cancel their payments.I wish MRZZ a speedy resolution to his problems. I do hope he comes back to finish the game as it was very enjoyable .but whatever happens he deserves respect for his honesty.
there is two versions, "The Gift" which I believe isat 0.25 and has different content than "The Gift Reloaded" which is at 0.04 so if you compare version numbers assuming the same scale was used on each "The Gift" is 0.21 versions ahead of "The gift reloaded"
Problem is people keep dropping off the extra place holder zero in there and say 0.4 vice the correct 0.04. so at this point 0.04 has probably more content than the gift itself at 0.25 only because of the fact they are related and probably some things was recycled between them though this is only speculation on my part. I would say truly consider them separate games.