Probably if you count beta and full releases.
But there is 15 major versions so I would say $140(initial release + 14 updates) ? but even then, this game will not be worth $20 once finished.
Ren'Py The Headmaster [v0.15.3.1 Public] [Altos and Herdone]
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But there is 15 major versions so I would say $140(initial release + 14 updates) ? but even then, this game will not be worth $20 once finished.
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only people who follow this thread are mostly aware that an update is out . once the update is out and this game is on page 1 of latest updates i would not be surprised if this thread becomes very active .
This game will actually be available for free, once it is finished. And the dev makes every version available for free appr. one month after an beta-update is released. Patroning the game doesn't mean to buy it, it means to contribute to it's development and help the dev to finally finish the game.
If such a game would be available only finished for less than 20$ to buy, we would probably never see only one such complex and well written game like this, as there would be far too few people buying it for rectifying the big amount of time a developer puts in conceiving ideas, building story structure, writing, creating images, adding gamification features and putting it all together in code. This may work for an AAA-game with a millions budget and a big advertisment campaign, that's bought by millions. But probably not for a lewd game, that might be finally bought by some thousands, if at all.
I think you overestimate the efforts put into this game. It's just your average Honey Select game. You may like the story, but let's be serious, it's not "well written", even for a porn game. Maybe the developpement of this game is chatotic, so the developper take a lot of time, it seems likely that is the case(hat and the recently health issues). And if the developpement takes time, it's more likely that the developper isn't a developer in the first place, and just learnt for this game (RenPy is pretty easy, it's just some Python and this games doesn't do any fancy things)
Really, aside from the "base settings", that may fit to your tasting and that's okay, this game is nothing special to any game on this website
And $20 is a big price, see Paradise Lust who is sold for $10 with live 2D renders. Or just any officially translated eroge.
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So, I assume, you've have something to bolster your claims, eg. your own fabulous game or so?
From my expierence, even the things that looks easy often aren't easy and needed a lot of work, either cause out of 5 tries one was good or because it has 100 details that need be accounted for.
Overall, I doubt developing a game, regardless of adult or not, Ren'Py or not, is anything but easy and I don't mean easy as not anyone can do as this place shows the opposite, but in easy as in doing it without skill for some average quality in a limit amount of time.
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Eh, I'll be honest - It's not exactly oscar winning writing or plot. It's the basic weeb tropes, with some nonsense bdsm on young people = healthy minds mixed in.
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To be honest, this "$10 for beta" policy caused that I suspended my $5 membership some time ago.
Headmaster betas are quite stable, sometimes more stable than full releases of other games. So for me beta's release is true release of version (even here, people are more interested in beta than in full version). It annoyed me that after many months of support for total 35$ - 45$ I had to wait another week to see newest version. As a result I thought that I prefer cancel membership and pay 10$ for release.
Is it more profitable for Atlos? Can be easily counted. And I suspect that a few people could think same way as me.
Apart from the Headmaster, it seems to me that the entire Patreon system that developers rely on is not entirely fair. Does someone tell me why, for example, someone who pays $10 one-time now have access to the beta version, while someone who paid $5 or even $1 for a whole year don't?
I really like Flexible Media approach. They give you access to games based on the TOTAL of all the pledges you have made. And guess what? This policy did not result in an outflow of patrons because, let's be honest, adult games are so easily pirated that only those who want to pay pay. So patreons continue to support the developer even though they theoretically don't have to (like me).
Headmaster betas are quite stable, sometimes more stable than full releases of other games. So for me beta's release is true release of version (even here, people are more interested in beta than in full version). It annoyed me that after many months of support for total 35$ - 45$ I had to wait another week to see newest version. As a result I thought that I prefer cancel membership and pay 10$ for release.
Is it more profitable for Atlos? Can be easily counted. And I suspect that a few people could think same way as me.
Apart from the Headmaster, it seems to me that the entire Patreon system that developers rely on is not entirely fair. Does someone tell me why, for example, someone who pays $10 one-time now have access to the beta version, while someone who paid $5 or even $1 for a whole year don't?
I really like Flexible Media approach. They give you access to games based on the TOTAL of all the pledges you have made. And guess what? This policy did not result in an outflow of patrons because, let's be honest, adult games are so easily pirated that only those who want to pay pay. So patreons continue to support the developer even though they theoretically don't have to (like me).
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The whole patreon system is a bit of a scam, people expect that if developers get more support, they'll work quicker. But instead of investing in their work, or hiring people to help, what actually happens is the developers work even less as they have less need to with more money (and more money to enjoy themself, see the concept of backward bending supply of labour from economic theory), and they pocket all the extra money.
That being said, people are not very good at voting with their wallets.
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Well, the whole Patreon system wasn't intended for this kind of endeavour where you get a "real thing" to show for your patronage. I mean, Patreon happily takes it because money, but it was intended to support people doing their stuff. Of course you wouldn't if you wouldn't see anything - the art they painted, the YouTubes they created and so forth. But the idea is not "I pay for a product" but "I like what this person is doing, let's give them a helping hand so they can continue".
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Or maybe I know how to develop? If this game was adding mechanics yeah it should take developpement time.
But this game has only the punishment system, that is available from the beggining. But if the code is spagetti, that would explain why adding a student to the system would be a pain in the ass to do.
It's Ren'Py, not Unity.
As far, as I see, the development of Paradise Lust is also financed through Patreon. So, "The Headmaster" might even be finally "cheaper" than Paradise Lust, as the dev gives it away for free 1 month after the beta-release.
Regarding the writing:
Altos makes in my opinion many things well in writing, which I see rarely done well in porn games:
- the characters have interests beyond lusting for the genitals of the MC (I know, this is a low barrier, but there are really games out there, where the girls do at least after some introduction nothing else than lusting for the MCs cock, which I find outright boring)
- the characters have quite different character traits
- the characters are acting plausible according to their character traits
- there is a (nonsexual) main aim, that this game follows and a lot of subplots that all point to this aim and don't go on their own. Even the whole lewdness is part of this aim and doesn't stand for it's own.
- despite the hilarious plot, many things, that the dev writes about seem to be recherched and not pure work of imagination of the dev. I got only recently again aware of this, when the headmaster spoke in the last update not only about the lust that certain BDSM-methods produce, but also about problems in the application.
Altos uses Illusion-Images for what one can use them in my eyes best, and what I'm also very much interested in:
- showing character traits, emotions and even plot progression through images by showing different postures and facial expressions, basically visual story telling.
I actually look first at the images and then at the plot, but If I don't find the plot interesting, I can also not enjoy the images. Than I really prefer watching porn. That is far more exciting.
I know actually even one dev, who produces tons of well-looking DAZ-Images every month and totally fits my exhibitionism-kink, but which's story is written so blend, that I just can't enjoy it.
There I prefer much more a developer who takes his time for thinking about the plot, the writing and the image producing, maybe trying things out and dismissing them again, but who produces for me after 6 months hours of pure joy.
Regarding the programming:
I know, this is the least time consuming in adult game development, but it still needs to be done.
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I'm surprised no one has leaked the beta, it's been 24 hours. I thought this game was more popular.
I have to say that I've been quite disappointed by the last update, because it basically gave up the sandbox mechanics in favour of a classic VN.
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"Accio The Head Master 0.15beta update link!"
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The reduced update cadence may have something to do with that. It could also potentially just be a consequence of how many games there are these days. But I'd be pretty surprised if this game wasn't still pretty popular. It's the kind of game that executes extremely well on it's premise, with a narrative and writing that are a cut above most other games like it.
It's able to create interesting situations/scenarios, and doesn't become too cliche or overly reliant on porn logic. The writing is strong enough to provide entertaining dialogue and context. But doesn't get pretentious, overly indulgent, or add unnecessary complexity. Most importantly, it doesn't take itself too seriously. If you're looking for what they're cooking, there are few, if any, other games that even attempt to deliver what this game does. Much less match the level of quality in the content itself. They really have a great understanding of what makes certain kinks or scenarios hot, and this elevates even the most simple scenes in the game.
Unfortunately, (at least for us) I think the fact it hasn't, also speaks to the level of loyalty that AltosandHerdone has engendered among their supporters. With games like this, one form of what I guess could be called, "pseudo-DRM" is the ability to make your regular patrons not want to leak it. Of course, it still only takes one person, so the more people support the game, the higher the odds that one person does decide to bless us. There are absolutely people in this thread who already have it. I'd assume in these kind of situations, it ends up being someone from in the F95 thread who just can't wait any longer and then shares it once they get it.
This is still one of my favorite games on here and I'm sure the update is great. But I'd be shocked if more than a small fraction of the non-patron players actually follow the development close enough to know ahead of time, when updates are supposed to drop. Like others have said, this thread will probably get a lot more lively once the update does eventually appear on here.
Until then, I can only do three things:
1. Make long posts of questionable utility on F95
2. Try not to think about all the animations in v0.15b which are probably using the new soft-body model and have Reilly good ass and thigh physics.....
3. Congratulate the developer for getting the update out on schedule, and those already playing it!
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Not trying to insult you, but there are so many people on this forum better at this