VN Ren'Py Abandoned The Heir of Shadows [v0.2.2] [SpaceBird Studios]

[Fazed]

It bores me, that's why I don't like it, but I don't hate it. In fact, if it exists and it cannot be avoided, unless it's something very abundant, then I use the CTRL and I don't see it.

For the rest, it seems that my comment has offended you. I'm not sure for why. In the same way that you have said that you like it, I have expressed my opinion, I don't see anything in it that could bother you.

Probably because I saw it as you needlessly interjecting your opinion on a matter that had little to do with the context of my original comment, and responded to it. I just wasn't talking about simple preferences. People like different things. That will never change and thus should not be the sole argument for not wanting something in the game. That is a circular argument that leads nowhere. " I dont like this so remove it. Why? Because I don't like it"....

If that is not what you were going for then my bad. Some tags don't go together sure I agree, but it goes beyond simply not liking X content.

 

[SpyderArachnid]

What version did you play? Those are probably mistakes I made coding the game, and overlooked, so thanks! I'll fix it today and release a fixed version. The story/choices are very important in this type of game, so not having that work properly is a big problem really.

About the second part: I'm kinda confused, even open some reference photos of Sarah on google photos to make sure I wasn't wrong, but Sarah doesn't even have any tattoos...? Just the mc. My guess is that you got it confused with them talking about Bruce and Bell's tattoos, which they did offscreen, and then in the scene in the library she was searching for something about it. She said "what we got" as in the information about the tattoos, not having them. As for Arachne, Sarah pop'd out literally seconds after Diana left, she was hearing her, probably from behind the bookshelf, and heard about it, that's why she brought it up as well, connecting with the tattoos as both are greek related.

And about the last part, I'm thinking of lowering the threshold of the choices, so that it still feels like what you do matters, but doesn't limit the player as much as before. How do you feel about that?

Ah, I got it confused then. When they were talking about the tattoos and such, and Sarah said "what we got" I assumed she was talking about tattoos that her and the MC had. Didn't consider that she was listening in about the Arachne, so that is why she mentioned them. Just confusion on my part is all, no worries.

I'm not worried about the point system and needing more points than are given or any of that stuff. I just mean the mechanics of it all are not explained in game. Can only learn about all of that via the walkthrough. When I first started it up, I had no idea what any of it was. But I opened up the walkthrough, and there was all the explanations of what everything did.

My issue with it is, that information should be available in game. Shouldn't have to resort to using a walkthrough just to understand what is going on. That was all.

 

[Pgazet]

I just finished the version , What can I say ? I see great potential , for me it was good .
Story is good for now, models are good, the H-scenes = .

Good luck for the dev and don't overwork yourself in all of those branching paths .

 

[YogSothoth1982]

Probably because I saw it as you needlessly interjecting your opinion on a matter that had little to do with the context of my original comment, and responded to it. I just wasn't talking about simple preferences. People like different things. That will never change and thus should not be the sole argument for not wanting something in the game. That is a circular argument that leads nowhere. " I dont like this so remove it. Why? Because I don't like it"....

If that is not what you were going for then my bad. Some tags don't go together sure I agree, but it goes beyond simply not liking X content.

It was actually just a comment about this part:

the MC finds it hot and since I as the player also find it hot well..

With no other real intention than to comment on my opinion/taste about lesbian sex.

It's possible that since English isn't my native language, it sounded worse than I really wanted it to. Actually my intention is for it to be a little funny without offending anyone.

 

[SpaceBirdDev]

Ah, I got it confused then. When they were talking about the tattoos and such, and Sarah said "what we got" I assumed she was talking about tattoos that her and the MC had. Didn't consider that she was listening in about the Arachne, so that is why she mentioned them. Just confusion on my part is all, no worries.

I'm not worried about the point system and needing more points than are given or any of that stuff. I just mean the mechanics of it all are not explained in game. Can only learn about all of that via the walkthrough. When I first started it up, I had no idea what any of it was. But I opened up the walkthrough, and there was all the explanations of what everything did.

My issue with it is, that information should be available in game. Shouldn't have to resort to using a walkthrough just to understand what is going on. That was all.

Oooooh, got it. That makes sense. I'll add some sort of explanation for the point system next update. Thanks for the feedback!
I'm actually also working on a toggleable in-game walkthrough for the next update, I think that'll help as well.

 

[Simulacrum29]

C'mon, you guys can't be seriously using the Olympus joke as an argument, ffs It was just a joke. Besides, you're not on olympus, nor are any of the LI, let them fuck themselves!

There are no jokes in PR.
If someone on the official Apple Twitteraccount would tweet something like: "You can charge your new iPhone 11 pro by putting it into the Microwave for 1 min on 1200 Watt "
That guy would never work in marketing again.
And yes, you are your own PR department. We don't know what or how you think, we have only your words.

NTR is a touchy subject, it is probably the most divisive fetish on this forum. Of course, everyone is on your comment, like a committee of vultures on a rotting carcass.
You are new and don't have enough standing to cash in a "just trust me, bro"

We need to be able to take what you say at face value, or else we can stop talking with you.

Man, that actually made me question some things. The idea was for the stat checks to make it feel more natural, to choices have more meaning. But from what you're saying it seem it's having the opposite effect. Do you think I should lower the threshold for the encounters? I'd love to hear opinions about it tbh

str = 100
int = 100
wis = 100
dex = 100
cha = 100
con = 100
money = 100000000000000000

Because I want to...? and feel like it fits on the story at the place where it can happen...? As for the second part there, never said it could be skipped, I always say "avoided", and there is a reason for that. The only way that type of scene will happen is if the MC wants it. So if he doesn't, It won't happen. period.

Fair enough. I wanted to harp into you a bit more about it but ultimately decided against it. If you want to do it, that is a valid reason/reason enough.

To be honest, I don't see that discussion calming down, even with your explanation regarding the tags in the OP.
All I got out of it is that there are LIs that are such sluts, that they don't mind dropping the MC if someone else waves his dick in their vicinity.
I mean, you cleared it up in here somewhere that that's not the case. That is, right now, only one LI, and only if you push her hard enough in that direction.

In the end, it is your time down the drain for content a large part of the audience don't want see, will never see, and in addition dealing with the new shitstorm once that content hits.

(btw if someone quotes me saying that you could skip, first of all, fuck you second of all you got what I was trying to say)

No, we really don't because we can't look inside your head.
And there were other devs that pulled shady shit. All while flip-flopping around or telling us it's not really XYZ because it happened in a dream, MC and LI are not in a committed relationship, actors from a different dimension, Aliens, or LI got mind-controlled, were possessed or male side characters shoelaces got lose and he isn't wearing his belt. So he stumbles his pants ride down and he lands with his dick first, inside a Li, by pure accident.
Another all-time classic is "it was relevant to the story".

 

[The ArcKnight]

Am I in danger?

As for the second part there, never said it could be skipped, I always say "avoided", and there is a reason for that. The only way that type of scene will happen is if the MC wants it. So if he doesn't, It won't happen. period. (btw if someone quotes me saying that you could skip, first of all, fuck you second of all you got what I was trying to say)

Okay, for your humerous responses alone I will give your game a shot.
Not a fan of sharing/ntr/swinging but as you said it will be fully avoidable and only in 1-2 spots in the entire game so what the fuck ever.

Will report back once finishing what you have so far.

 

[ahxjosu]

is harem in plan?

 

[gkdlalstnek]

Are the scenes animated? otherwise Do you plan to add animation?

 

[SpaceBirdDev]

There are no jokes in PR.
If someone on the official Apple Twitteraccount would tweet something like: "You can charge your new iPhone 11 pro by putting it into the Microwave for 1 min on 1200 Watt "
That guy would never work in marketing again.
And yes, you are your own PR department. We don't know what or how you think, we have only your words.

NTR is a touchy subject, it is probably the most divisive fetish on this forum. Of course, everyone is on your comment, like a committee of vultures on a rotting carcass.
You are new and don't have enough standing to cash in a "just trust me, bro"

We need to be able to take what you say at face value, or else we can stop talking with you.




str = 100
int = 100
wis = 100
dex = 100
cha = 100
con = 100
money = 100000000000000000





Fair enough. I wanted to harp into you a bit more about it but ultimately decided against it. If you want to do it, that is a valid reason/reason enough.

To be honest, I don't see that discussion calming down, even with your explanation regarding the tags in the OP.
All I got out of it is that there are LIs that are such sluts, that they don't mind dropping the MC if someone else waves his dick in their vicinity.
I mean, you cleared it up in here somewhere that that's not the case. That is, right now, only one LI, and only if you push her hard enough in that direction.

In the end, it is your time down the drain for content a large part of the audience don't want see, will never see, and in addition dealing with the new shitstorm once that content hits.



No, we really don't because we can't look inside your head.
And there were other devs that pulled shady shit. All while flip-flopping around or telling us it's not really XYZ because it happened in a dream, MC and LI are not in a committed relationship, actors from a different dimension, Aliens, or LI got mind-controlled, were possessed or male side characters shoelaces got lose and he isn't wearing his belt. So he stumbles his pants ride down and he lands with his dick first, inside a Li, by pure accident.
Another all-time classic is "it was relevant to the story".

(No funni's, jokes, or haha's in this answer. Beware!)
This was the first one that wasn't funny to read, mostly because it was trying to sound smart while stating some beliefs as the whole truth. But let's dissect all of it:

There are no jokes in PR.
If someone on the official Apple Twitteraccount would tweet something like: "You can charge your new iPhone 11 pro by putting it into the Microwave for 1 min on 1200 Watt "
That guy would never work in marketing again.
And yes, you are your own PR department. We don't know what or how you think, we have only your words.

This first of all is a "Gotcha!" type of argument, which I hate. There is no way you could realistically compare your example and the current situation. The product, the ambient, and above all the community are completely different, and so are the "do" or "don'ts".
I do believe that exists a need for an explanation of how or what the game will/won't include, and that's why I don't mind answering all types of questions regarding it. I don't however think that every answer needs to be as serious as possible. It all depends on context. Context which in the case of that joke, was completely clear to anyone but 2 or 3 people apparently, as it was just a humorous answer to a humorous question.

NTR is a touchy subject, it is probably the most divisive fetish on this forum. Of course, everyone is on your comment, like a committee of vultures on a rotting carcass.

I agree, and I never said I find it bad. People have questions, I don't mind answering them. I actually think it's my fault for not putting the text on the main post before, It probably answers a lot of questions without the need for comments.

You are new and don't have enough standing to cash in a "just trust me, bro"
We need to be able to take what you say at face value, or else we can stop talking with you.

Not sure what are you talking about...? If it's still the joke thing, then I have nothing to say that I didn't say already. If it isn't, then I'm even more puzzled. I've tried to be as direct with what I want to the game as I can (without spoiling the next updates, etc). There's no "trust me bro" that I can remember, even more now with the text on the main post.

All I got out of it is that there are LIs that are such sluts, that they don't mind dropping the MC if someone else waves his dick in their vicinity.
I mean, you cleared it up in here somewhere that that's not the case. That is, right now, only one LI, and only if you push her hard enough in that direction.

I'm curious, why did you get that idea from the text in the op? and where was it cleared up? That can help me make a better text, so I'd be glad if you'd answer.

In the end, it is your time down the drain for content a large part of the audience don't want see, will never see, and in addition dealing with the new shitstorm once that content hits.

This would be a "normal" comment, but it turns so obnoxiously stupid (the comment, not you. Don't want to insult anyone ) when you factor in the context, which is that I said that I do the scenes that I want because I want, and think it will fit. How is then "time down the drain" when I'm doing what I want and think will be better? How is it "time down the drain" when I said that I don't mind (most of the time actually I enjoy) interacting with people commenting here?

Besides, answering in an actually productive way, even if it was time down the drain, It wouldn't be much of it, would it? As I said in the OP Text, there are hardly any scenes of that nature planned... and none on the current build.

No, we really don't because we can't look inside your head.

Well, there isn't much there to look at anyway (that was a joke, there are in fact things in my head ). You can't look inside my head, but you can look at the OP and see the text there, or my serious answers, and by doing that you'd understand that what I mean is that by avoiding content, It will never happen in-game. So if I said Skip somewhere in this whole thread, I was implying that I used the wrong word and that you would know what I meant.

And there were other devs that pulled shady shit. All while flip-flopping around or telling us it's not really XYZ because it happened in a dream, MC and LI are not in a committed relationship, actors from a different dimension, Aliens, or LI got mind-controlled, were possessed or male side characters shoelaces got lose and he isn't wearing his belt. So he stumbles his pants ride down and he lands with his dick first, inside a Li, by pure accident.
Another all-time classic is "it was relevant to the story".

...?


Well, that took some time. I'm going to touch some grass for a while, definitely recommend it

 

[SpaceBirdDev]

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Okay, for your humerous responses alone I will give your game a shot.
Not a fan of sharing/ntr/swinging but as you said it will be fully avoidable and only in 1-2 spots in the entire game so what the fuck ever.

Will report back once finishing what you have so far.

Thank you very much! Please do tell me what you think when you finished it, all feedback is welcome!

 

[SpaceBirdDev]

is harem in plan?

Yep, and it'll be a big part of the game.

Are the scenes animated? otherwise Do you plan to add animation?

No, most sex scenes have a succession of images to simulate movement, but there's no animation with video, etc.
And yes, I do plan on animating all the scenes, but that requires upgrading my PC, which isn't something I can do at the moment, sadly.

 

[The ArcKnight]

Okay, so got a chance to play the current build and both the "Go with Bell" and "Stay with GF" paths up to the ending of meeting the "Boss". (Fucking Verbena)
As a Mage the Ascension player, I have to admit I am loving the premise so far.

MC is a mage, though what type is yet to be found out but obviously he will have some crazy power if someone is trying to ice him immediately. (Also was that a technocrat I saw on the bus?)
I like the different sexual encounters (Got Diana bj, secretary fuck on one route and Secretary fuck, GF fuck, and GF roomie fuck on the other) I just wish there was a way to get them all in one playthrough.

Also, for the love of god let us see our stats!
A character sheet and the ability to see what our choices increase/decrease would help with us deciding on what type of character we want to be rather then just "eh, this sounds good".

Love Bell's look, love Fang's look, really want to have more scenes with them.
Love Diana, though I think that's the LI most likely tagged for NTR (being a changling pattered after a succubi after all) which makes me sad as I love me my redheads.

I kinda feel like the "Go with bell" is the better path, even though I want to be a good BF...
And how can you NOT hug Fang??? Come on!

Anyways, good game let me know if there are any sex scenes I missed.

 

[hysepReC]

Love that Sarah ahegao

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[Harkenward]

I do realize that but because I tend to just move on and stop playing if I can't pirate it I can't say I ever considered it a factor. Truthfully I hope *someone* pays them for their work but I'm too busy jerking off and accidentally ADHD flame-posting depending on what I started doing when the adderall hit.

It'd have to be a hell of a burner to maintain the facade of logging in for 5 years (holy shit that's pathetic) without posting just to jerk off to whatever's new and semi interesting just to intentionally burn it on such a shitty fucking low bar/low effort/low everything argument/shitpost. Honestly I actually feel bad for wasting space in the devs thread even talking about it any more. Today was the first time I've ever posted a comment lmao, and it was because I initially came into the comments to report an inconsequential bug.

Anyway like in principle I agree (mostly I guess?) with some of what they're saying like I don't enjoy NTR I like being a little MC power fantasy goblin who always gets whoever I want etc like that's the whole point of hedonistically self-inserting yourself(..) in a story but it's just man... the justifications and attitudes and behaviors driving those desires when they post are just so fucking bizarre and full of the most weirdo shit that I just couldn't leave it alone lmao.

Anyway... they're just pixel sluts nobody on here is writing the next billion dollar romance novel best seller or whatever there's some great art/writers but getting attached to what the imaginary characters might or might not do in other people's playthroughs or paths you didn't take or whatever is just... pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease interact with a human outside please. Not in a "shooting up a yoga studio/massage parlor" way either.

Just enjoy the sluts! Some sluts are fun to turn from sluts into super loyal-to-the-core toys/love interests, some are fun to turn from super shy pristine whatever girls into occasional freaks for just the mc, or perhaps corrupt even further if you're into that. Some people are into way more than that or way less, and that's why *choices* exist. Just enjoy the sluts the way you want and don't expect people to understand why you light a candle and jerk off to vanilla missionary "harems" where nobody interacts with anyone but the MC in a one on one setting on his birthday with the lights off with all the intimacy of a KFC moist towelette.

If the choice you don't want comes up DON'T CLICK IT. LOAD A SAVE. THAT'S WHY THOSE THINGS EXIST. THE DEVS AREN'T YOUR MOM BRINGING YOU CHICKEN TENDIES JUST THE WAY YOU LIKE THEM. Just uninstall if it's too much in a direction you hate and add it to your "not worth coming back, or maybe in the future if it changes a lot" pile or whatever. People are busy looking for all the depth in the world to dive and find a super special pearl at the bottom but they're literally only willing to do so in the wading pool instead of the GIANT OCEAN RIGHT NEXT DOOR out of fear that maybe there's other sub-flawless pearls around.

Also none of that was directed at you or anyone in particular just like the over the top insane and entitled "harem game elitist" community or whatever.

Edit: For future confusion the person this post was replying to deleted it. It kinda makes zero sense without context but there's not really any point in removing it now so.

 

[Harkenward]

Also SpaceBirdDev I just re-read your additions to the tag explanations in the OP and I gotta say. I'm really disappointed.

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I can't believe you'd do this and not call it Bukkage bunshin no jutsu.

Edit: To be clear this was just a joke I'm not disappointed in any way nor am I aware of other games or franchises that have done what I typed I just thought it was a hilarious pun. I've never even seen that anime.

 

[JohnF95zone]

I hope SpaceBird Studios

Also SpaceBirdDev I just re-read your additions to the tag explanations in the OP and I gotta say. I'm really disappointed.

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I can't believe you'd do this and not call it Bukkage bunshin no jutsu.

Honestly, I am really disappointed that SpaceBird had to reveal that before its debut on the game itself. It is spoiled just so that to satisfy certain mobs that are hellbent on slapping certain tags to the game that they don't even play or support.

That "Bukkage Bunshin No Jutsu" is something different and cool, although not unique (obviously, it was there in Naruto since demo). There is another game with a similar idea, which also under heavy attacks from certain mobs.

 

[Darkmessiah30]

i tried this game but i cant i just cant when i have no fucking clue what stat is being increased/decreased with each choice i make this needs some kind of wt or notification that a stat has been increased im not making 100 different saves to get the stats i want.

 

[msleomac]

Here's the

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for the v0.1

hope you update soon

 

[Darknesssilent]

Honestly, I am really disappointed that SpaceBird had to reveal that before its debut on the game itself. It is spoiled just so that to satisfy certain mobs that are hellbent on slapping certain tags to the game that they don't even play or support.

That "Bukkage Bunshin No Jutsu" is something different and cool, although not unique (obviously, it was there in Naruto since demo). There is another game with a similar idea, which also under heavy attacks from certain mobs.

And yet that is the scene that i will stop playing this game because if i want to create a clone of myself to fuck more then one Li at a time whats the point doesn't make it hot or sexy makes me think that it would be an identical Twin brother which to me is cheating so ya not my kink but thats just me no need to add the scene makes the Li look like slut.