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She never cheated, even the dev clarified she never cheated.
He was her old fuck buddy who caught feels but she never did and started dating the MC.
He was her old fuck buddy who caught feels but she never did and started dating the MC.
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Well, the dev sure made it seem like it. I'm not saying you're wrong, but I never saw where the dev clarified it.
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Let me emphasize that a bit differently:
No. If you play the scene to completion and allow her to talk then you find out she wasn't cheating, although the choice to believe her or not is up to you.
So yeah, he more or less said she wasn't cheating. He did not say anything like "she explains to you" or similar but plain old "she wasn't cheating".
While you are correct that it is not proof and things like you mention could happen, you tend to only think of your interpretation in this discussion and claim it is physically possible (which it is), however ignore all the points that make it more likely that it isn't. From the story itself to the use of variables to reading between the lines it is at least clear that it is quite probable that she is supposed to be an LI at one point later in the game - which may not happen, agreed, but odds are in favor.
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Yeah that's why I see it as her not cheating physically but cheating emotionally. As it seemed like they been together for a decent amount of time before she finally was going to tell her best friend. So clearly she never was in the relationship 100% to begin with if it took that long to end things with the best friend officially. As it seemed to me she was stringing the best friend along for who know how long while she was in a relationship with the MC and all the while not doing the fuck buddy thing anymore. At least I believe she never did anything with the friend , while she was together with the MC.
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I know this... I don't think you had the full context of my comment, it was in relation to where is she on the front page of this thread in the list of LI's. I was replying to that dumbass who was trying to make a dumb argument.
Also, Lane isn't weird... I don't know who your girl of choice is, but if it's one of two characters and you're calling Lane weird... well kinda ironic. If it's Mary though, then fair enough she's in my top 3 along with Lane and Seok.
She wasn't though... there's no evidence of this anywhere, if anything with what little we got to go on purely in-game, it points to the opposite. If it turns out she was, fair enough, but according to the dialogue of the game itself and the context around it, no where does it suggest she actually cheated.
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You should know me by now, I'm weird and in my opinion weird is cool.
There's only 1 girl for me and she's the weirdest of all of them. Which means she's the coolest and the best. IMO
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she is my favorite but I like all of them but Zoey about the same tbh. I just love how funny her weirdness isYou should know me by now, I'm weird and in my opinion weird is cool.
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So she was emotionally cheating because she was going to tell her childhood friend whom she used to have a sexual relationship with, that she has a boyfriend now and doesn't want anything with him? That's literally the opposite of emotional cheating, she's rejecting the guys feelings, that she doesn't reciprocate. She's dumb for not disclosing this to the MC in the first place, but it would only me an EA if she actually reciprocated the feelings in some way. She wants do to it in person to do him being her childhood friend and feeling he deserves more than a text or phone call, which is understandable.
In short, she's dumb, but wasn't cheating.
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maybe emotional cheating is the wrong word but I didn't know how else to put it. I said she was emotionally cheating in a sense cause it seemed like she wasn't in the relationship 100% to me at least initially until she made her mind up to tell the best friend. Cause to me it felt like they were together for a decent amount of time before she was going to tell the friend. Tho that is more speculation / interpretation on my part since nothing really says how long they were together for as far as I can recall. So cause of that it did feel almost like cheating in some sense to me but not physically.
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If I recall they had been together for a few months, but maybe this is a false memory, I'm not 100% sure about that. Sometimes it takes even longer than a few months in a relationship to know it's what you truly want. So even though I still hold the opinion of her being dumb, and needing better communication, I don't believe she had malicious intent personally.
Her intent in omitting this from the MC is the only thing that's hard to know until more of that story is revealed.
I get that, I feel like I explained the same thing 5 times already. My point was that the dev acknowledges he let it up to the player to draw their own conclusion IN THE GAME, because you know a cheater would hardly admit outright they were planning to cheat, and the whole situation is very suspicious: getting together with your old fuckbuddy for a trip without making things clear for him from the start, not telling your bf, the fact that they have talked before to plan the trip, yet he still talks to her as if they were going to fuck, and she is letting it happen because she wants to explain in person????
Come one thats fucking suspicious, thats why the dev admits it is up to the player.
Sure, from the dev's comment it seems like she didn't cheat (or planning to cheat) after all, he basically confirms it. But you only know this if you read his comment here, someone that just played the game wouldn't know that, because that information is NOT IN THE GAME.
And the argument we were having initially is that it was somehow "retarded" to think she was cheating with the information that was in the game, so I showed it wasn't, as the dev himself admits it is up to the player to decide. Thats why I focus on the possibility of it, as you said, because that was the whole point.
I never claimed she was cheating "100% no doubt", thats why I put the cheating in quotation marks, I dont know how many times I have to repeat this but here it is a third a time.
I am guessing this confusion stems from not knowing that in fallen roads the "cheating" isn't confirmed either or is basically expected that it somehow didnt happen, despite all the evidence pointing that way, it was just a way for the dev to add a little drama at the start of the game hence the similarity:
About Simone being a LI I already said that I dont think it will happen, if you think the odds are in favor then ok. Again, I never said it wouldn't happen, I said claiming she is a LI right now wouldn't be correct. The whole LI talk came because the other guy was using it as "proof" of why she couldn't have cheated because she was a LI and dev said no ntr, so it was ridiculous of anyone to believe she cheated.
And, I was saying that you cant use that as proof because its not been confirmed, and, imo, the game doesnt really suggest she is a LI as she is, well... gone, nowhere to be seen or heard of since she left. He mentioned something about love points being in the game data but come on, that is not indisputable evidence of anything.
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Hmm, we seem to read that statement (by the dev) very differently. I read it - paraphrased - as "it is made clear that she isn't cheating, but I cannot force the reader to believe it because there are things like unreliable narrators and suchlike, but she indeed isn't cheating".I get that, I feel like I explained the same thing 5 times already. My point was that the dev acknowledges he let it up to the player to draw their own conclusion IN THE GAME, because you know a cheater would hardly admit outright they were planning to cheat, and the whole situation is very suspicious: getting together with your old fuckbuddy for a trip without making things clear for him from the start, not telling your bf, the fact that they have talked before to plan the trip, yet he still talks to her as if they were going to fuck, and she is letting it happen because she wants to explain in person????
Come one thats fucking suspicious, thats why the dev admits it is up to the player.
As for the "retarded" part, that wasn't me and I may have skipped that.
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You still fail to get the point that I don't care about the dev's comment at all, as someone playing this game wont read it. If it was on the OP then maybe I would consider taking it into consideration.
I myself didnt know about it until I had this discussion, and just playing the game I concluded there was no definite answer, even if you let her explain.
Thats why I put his quote without changing any of his words, because if you start paraphrasing and putting your own words at convenience you end up with another message entirely, as you did when you included "clear" into a comment that was already saying that the information could be questionable, basically making it contradict itself.
In fact, the user I was discussing this with even admitted that, dont know why you are still trying to suggest it is "clear" she wasn't cheating.
So yeah, if you just played the game you won't know for sure unless more information is given inside the game later on.
Now, if you read the dev's comment which he made back in april of this year then you know, but if you didnt then you simply dont.
There is a reason why he made that comment in the first place, to clarify the issue.
Just check the comments that were in the game thread before the dev clarified this, specially when the first update just dropped.
Actually I found a comment of yours saying the same thing I am saying:
So why do you want to pretend it was clear all along or, if it was, then why not say so back then...... But neither of us of course will know until we get to later parts of the story, which may take a while with the update pace we have.
All I see in comments back then is speculation, which happens when something is not made clear.I dont think the dev is saying that it is made clear in the game, because if theres anyone who knows it wasnt is him, since he made it ambiguous like that intentionally, probably planning to give more info later in-game.
He just got fed up with people talking about it and decided to reveal that Simone was indeed telling the truth, so people shut up about the "cheating" that didnt even happen.
Can we let this discussion end already?
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Well, you were using the quote (you don't care about) yourself, highlighting points, and explaining how you understand it. My "paraphrasing" I think was the same, explaining how I understood it. I didn't want to make the claim that he said anything of how I read it, which is why I preceeded it with that "paraphrasing" disclaimer. I don't think we do things differently only in different ways here.
Well, it is an open discussion forum, so you don't really have one-on-ones here, anybody can chime in.
While that is true, your original complaint gave the "cheating" - even if in quotation marks - as kind of a fact. And that is not the case either. Without the dev's comments it is an open question, however I would argue that this is what happens in stories all the time. Having "not even a question" about anything would be quite strange. So I do not get complaints about a story plot that has not been resolved - in story - yet, being possibly "bad". But
yeah, that may be a good idea.
No I wasn't, it was brought up by the other user, not me. I even said I didnt know about it prior to that discussion. And if someone brings a point then I have to talk about it, cant just ignore it, right? But it was never part of my initial argument in which I focus on whats in the game.
No, I didnt. And even if you or anyone understood it that way (because of not playing fallen roads and not knowing the context), I clarified it in my second comment immediately and then repeat the same over and over because apparently it is a difficult concept to understand.
If that was the reason then why are we having this conversation if I already made it clear like two pages prior to this.
Isn't this clear enough that I never meant to say it happened as fact? I even repeat this in other comments so I really dont get why we are having this conversation right now.
If you are going to do it at least know what the discussion is about or whats already been said. You came in bringing points that have already been discussed to death.
Finally. Hopefully I only have to come back here when there's an actual update and not because someone else wants to beat a dead horse.
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Forgive me I forgot alot of the character names. While I like pretty much all but Zoey I think my favorites are the weird girl or the one with the wholesome family cant decide who is my #1.