NewTricks

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Runey, dev of Harem Hotel, had to find a work around for that. H ended up getting beta testers because he hated having beta builds leaked.

Tons of people complaining about bugs for a buggy build he wanted testing.

He gets people leak the full build but he hates having beta builds leaked.
It ends up creating a perpetual negative feedback loop when builds that are not intended to release get leaked and treated as releases. Shit's not always safe for human consumption. It's like "Yay! I got an early leaked episode of Game of Thrones! Wait... why is Daenarys talking to a tennis ball on a string instead of a dragon? This shit sucks!" In the case of these VNs there can be any number of bugs, glitches, and incompatibilities that may take more than just a quick patch to address. Then a couple of updates later they complain that their saves are broken. Well, no shit. You played a working build instead of a playable version and therefore played yourself. I'm not saying that folks shouldn't play these leaked versions. Just that if they do, treat themselves as beta testers and not players. If they don't have something helpful to report, they should probably keep it to themselves.
 

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they should probably keep it to themselves.
Complaining about something you basically stole is stupid anyway.

Try that with Microsoft.
"Hello, Microsoft helpline"
"Hi, I have this problem with Windows"
"May I have your serial number?"
"I don't have one, I just downloaded it from The Pirate Bay, the keygen provided gave number 1234, but now I have a lot of strange background processes, freezes and sometimes a console opens"
"*click*"
 

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It ends up creating a perpetual negative feedback loop when builds that are not intended to release get leaked and treated as releases. Shit's not always safe for human consumption. It's like "Yay! I got an early leaked episode of Game of Thrones! Wait... why is Daenarys talking to a tennis ball on a string instead of a dragon? This shit sucks!" In the case of these VNs there can be any number of bugs, glitches, and incompatibilities that may take more than just a quick patch to address. Then a couple of updates later they complain that their saves are broken. Well, no shit. You played a working build instead of a playable version and therefore played yourself. I'm not saying that folks shouldn't play these leaked versions. Just that if they do, treat themselves as beta testers and not players. If they don't have something helpful to report, they should probably keep it to themselves.
As a developer you want the products that you present to be as good as possible. Give the developers a chance to remove bugs and cups from Starbucks before it gets spread all over internet.
 

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As a developer you want the products that you present to be as good as possible. Give the developers a chance to remove bugs and cups from Starbucks before it gets spread all over internet.
sorry this happened to you I am waiting for your official public release please let us know when that takes place? Thank you in advance. Also I thought in the beginning I may not like this game but so far it's been quite enjoyable. Just wish we could have kept the little blondie in the basement lol.
 
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sorry this happened to you I am waiting for your official public release please let us know when that takes place? Thank you in advance. Also I thought in the beginning I may not like this game but so far it's been quite enjoyable. Just wish we could have kept the little blondie in the basement lol.
Thanks.

At some point Jenny had to finish her obedience training and find herself a more permanent Master. Jenny had also an important role of making sure that this game didn't become a totally sexless game while the relationship between MC and Angelina slowly progressed. Now the basement is the place where MC and Angelina will meet in secret...
 

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True according to the definition, you're right.
But I personnally don't mind if it's female. But male? NO WAY :ROFLMAO: No dick near my girls please :BootyTime:
That's fine if that's what you like, but when it comes to definitions and the such, it doesn't matter really whether it's your personal likes/opinion. NTR goes for both men and women stealing your LI away. I like the occasional lesbian content every now and then (and in my opinion, it's too prevalent), but as the MC, I don't want the LI going off and leaving me for another guy or girl, or the LI being with another woman without the MC's consent.

It's why I both love and hate harem AVNs. Too many have unavoidable lesbian content between the harem LIs. A harem is a male power fantasy for a reason. It sounds piggish, but it's a harem.. the LIs are there for you, the MC, not to entertain each other sexually while they wait for the MC.

But, those are just my personal tastes. That's why if there's lesbian content, I always try to check to see if it's avoidable before I play it. Sometimes I'm in the mood for it, other times I'm not. Sometimes I want two of the LIs to be intimate with each others, other girls I want to be for MC only.

Anyways, TL;DR, that's why the tags have to go by the definition so personal preferences don't muddy the waters. It's why I just recently downloaded the game since I keep seeing conflicted reports about the NTR tag, even if it's girl-girl NTR. If there is any, even if it's a good game by the dev (which people keep saying it's really good, and I don't doubt it), I won't continue to play it, though I'll keep wishing the dev success on their game for those that do like it.
 

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Loved the latest updates.
Looking forward to that sophia chloe threesome.
And Hailey is just adorable. So fuckin angry some asshole took her virginity before we could. But at least we get Mila.

I will ask, whats the point of the other THS girls?
They are not going to be love interests and most players arnt going to want a girl who's been through all the training with some faceless guy before you meet them when you have all these younger girls to corrupt and bring into THS as their Master so.... why devote so much time to them? I was at least hoping we would get someone interesting / relevant to the plot to manage like Jenny's sister.

Like I said, loved the updates besides those little bits.
 
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Loved the latest updates.
Looking forward to that sophia chloe threesome.
And Hailey is just adorable. So fuckin angry some asshole took her virginity before we could. But at least we get Mila.

I will ask, whats the point of the other THS girls?
They are not going to be love interests and most players arnt going to want a girl who's been through all the training with some faceless guy before you meet them when you have all these younger girls to corrupt and bring into THS as their Master so.... why devote so much time to them? I was at least hoping we would get someone interesting / relevant to the plot to manage like Jenny's sister.

Like I said, loved the updates besides those little bits.
Thanks.
The story is called The Higher Society and it's the story about how Angelina and her stepfather became involved in this organization. It would be strange if we didn't meet some of the other members in this story. I also want the players to understand that THS is something more than a sexclub. That's why we meet peole with different roles in THS. So far we have been introduced to Jenny, Lucy, Mr. X, Mr. Xavi, Yvette, Tenley and Fallon. There's plenty of games where you can fuck every woman you meet, this is not one of them. I want to tell a story that is about more than just sex.

Let's hope Chloe appreciate the birthday present:
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Thanks.
The story is called The Higher Society and it's the story about how Angelina and her stepfather became involved in this organization. It would be strange if we didn't meet some of the other members in this story. I also want the players to understand that THS is something more than a sexclub. That's why we meet peole with different roles in THS. So far we have been introduced to Jenny, Lucy, Mr. X, Mr. Xavi, Yvette, Tenley and Fallon. There's plenty of games where you can fuck every woman you meet, this is not one of them. I want to tell a story that is about more than just sex.

Let's hope Chloe appreciate the birthday present:
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That is understandable. Its always a balancing act of story and sex with spicy vn's, some I enjoy more the story, some I enjoy more the sex. For me, the sex scenes are great in this game, and the build up towards them are as well (I for one liked the Gregory story just because we got to stick it to him in the end AND get the girl, [take that you creepy fat fuck!]) It's also fine we cant fuck every woman we meet, I didn't cry wolf because we couldn't bang the makeup artist for example.

The story, while good, had always put me on edge with the secret society and sex club.. The fact that the MC has zero power beyond what the society gives him, and the fact they can take away a girl at any time with no input from him to serve a new master like Jenny.. it gives me the squicks, (though I'm happy Jenny got to serve her sis instead of a new guy!)
That being said, its why I've always focused more on the girls and getting to know them rather then the mysterious secret society aspect of the story.

I can see what your doing though making the MC an HR manager for rescued Pets and trying to find them a good home is kinda interesting, and the story is about The Higher Society,, not MC build's a submissive harem, so guess I'll just have to deal. lol. And hey, at least Fallon seems interesting and hopefully doesn't have too much of a messy past.
 
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The story, while good, had always put me on edge with the secret society and sex club.. The fact that the MC has zero power beyond what the society gives him, and the fact they can take away a girl at any time with no input from him to serve a new master like Jenny.. it gives me the squicks, (though I'm happy Jenny got to serve her sis instead of a new guy!)
That being said, its why I've always focused more on the girls and getting to know them rather then the mysterious secret society aspect of the story.

I can see what your doing though making the MC an HR manager for rescued Pets and trying to find them a good home is kinda interesting, and the story is about The Higher Society,, not MC build's a submissive harem, so guess I'll just have to deal. lol. And hey, at least Fallon seems interesting and hopefully doesn't have too much of a messy past.
I agree but I also think it's kind of the point of this game. To get the feeling of a threat without the story actually following through on the threat. But yeah, if it were my choice, I wouldn't have touched THS at all, let alone let my daughter join. A "messy past", as you put it, is probably a given with all these girls.

But I'm not complaining, the story is very entertaining. I'm just happy it's not my autobiography. :LOL:
 

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Jenny's sister is already a member.

Considering the MC is new she's higher up the ladder than he is.

If anything, she'd be training him.
I do find it odd that the new male members of THS don't receive at least some rudimentary obedience training. You have to learn how to follow before you can learn how to lead, after all. Not only that, having some boy toys around might come in handy as not all rich and powerful people are necessarily attracted to women.
 
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