SiteRip "The JOI Archive" The joi Database Patreon exclusive SiteRip v2.11 [2024-07-15]
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So I was mostly going to shitpost here, but going to be serious.
I'm chillanimeJOI and I totally agree that the amount of patreon exclusive content is absolutely stupid right now. It's tough because exclusive content makes SO much more it's hard to understate. My first year I was making like $300 a month lol, after like two years I finally got it all the way up to 1.7k...which is BARELY livable. I tried my best to make it work, but then people started doing exclusive stuff and making 2-3x what I was with frankly worse content.
I like to think I strike a good balance between boosting my income while still giving everyone a decent amount of content. I'm sure some people here would say any amount of exclusive content is too much but fuck that. My last vid was probably like 150 hours of work. Aint doing that for 1.7k a month.
The problem is most people take the absolute piss. Especially new creators making like 2 vids for public then 7 patreon exclusive vids in a row. The free advertising that JOIdatabase provides is the cause of the issues. There's no reason for people to cater to public releases now to build a following. It's all just hurrdurr flood page with patreon content.
I've been talking to the guy hosting the site to make patreon content less visible, which is actually going to probably hit my income short term. But I think this whole genre is totally fucked if people keep going the way it is.
Thanks for coming to my Tedtalk
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First off, I appreciate that you haven't come in here to immediatly bash this thread for existing.
Earlier on when there were only a few creators doing Patreon exclusive content, it was fine, in fact I remember pledging to yours briefly to get access to a video because it was a 'new' thing and it felt premium, you were throwing some cash in to get something that was a step up from the norm in some way, whether it was longer or had some extra flair like voice action or animation, it was a once-every-now-and-then project that was a larger scale than the ususal content. When everything a creator makes becomes Patreon-only it diminishes the value of what a Patreon exclusive video is, there's no way they can pump out that much content and still retain a high enough quality that a paywall is justified, but people obviously had to move to keep up with it. I've seen enough Patreon videos that have made it beyond their paywalls one way or another that I don't think anyone should be paying for, the quality is so standard to any other free video you'd find just a few years ago. I don't think joi database including patreon support so readily is helping either, it makes it way to easy for people to just throw everything behind a paywall.
I think if a video has something really extra that puts it above the rest like voice acting, comissions art/animation, etc, that makes the money put in worth it, then a paywall is something I'll accept, but even then it can still be a risk, you don't really know how 'into' the content you'll actually be until after you've already put your money down. I can absolutely see why people are so willing to avoid paywalls in fear of whether it'd be worth it because I'm one of those people.
CAJOI, you are a living legend. You practically built the anime joi theme. Call me a fan boy, I don't care, I love your videos, and I'm happy that you're doing better with the patreon content.
I simply can't justify spending money on porn. However, I hope that you continue to get more support through your patreon videos.
Your gangbang vids are my personal favorite, and I'm excited for the Ahri remake. I hope that you continue to make public vids, but also patreon vids for those who support you.
Seriously, thank you for all the work you do to give us simple men a little fun to look forward to.
(P.s. voiced or not, I think your videos are worth it, and all those jerks who say otherwise have no idea how long it takes to properly edit a good video!)
Hope you keep going.
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Also it says I have to make three messages before I can do anything, so...
Joigang is great, go check them out.
Joigang is great, go check them out.
And, Divinejoi is good too, so check them out.
I can't think of anybody else that's worth it off the top of my head.
I can't think of anybody else that's worth it off the top of my head.
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I will say that the one "advantage" of the current trend is that the average video is far higher standards than they were a few years back. I'd still honestly say most are terrible and definitely not worth paying for, but yeah. A few years ago everybody but like me/divine/soxxie were still doing the black border videos lol.
And yeah, one thing I worked out is that the quality of the video doesn't matter a ton because people payed already. So the amount a video makes depends more on how marketable it is. Shit sucks. I'm lucky enough that I get free access to most videos because well, I'm me. And there's definitely videos that I was hyped for that end up being fucking terrible. Paying for that would make it far worse.
I like to think I've not made any disappointing paid content, it's actually why I changed my plan for halloween. The video just felt mediocre.
No worries, I probably wouldn't spend money either. Only if it's a concept I really liked. But glad you're enjoying the content.
- Nov 27, 2022
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I kinda agree but creating a joi doesn't ONLY mean to overlay text, it's harder than that. I've been struggling to find well-made videos for quite some time now, precisely because even this thing (which seems trivial) requires effort.
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Honestly, if I was rich, I'd pay you 5k to make me a video and then donate 1k just to say thank you; but I just spent 40 bucks on an electric kettle and now I'm wiped out.
But who knows, maybe if you're still doing vids down the line I could drop that kind of cash.
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Let's both hope you win the lottery then.
I didn't respond to the guy because it was retarded, but yeah. It doesn't take 150 hours if it's just that easy. There's also be more than like...2 people who make good content.
The whole stolen art thing is not exactly ideal but the genre literally couldnt exist otherwise. But that's why I'm making a game with my own models etc, coming soon in 2026 to a patreon near you.
A game sounds awesome. Would it be like a VN or some kind of Mobile?
If you don't mind my asking that is.
If you don't mind my asking that is.
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Kinda same idea as my vids. My videos are kinda designed to be games as best as video format allows. So will be various JOI scenes, most of them following a game of some kind with different scenes based on how you did.
Anyway, enough spamming the thread. Need to let people post requests that nobody answers.
Anyway, enough spamming the thread. Need to let people post requests that nobody answers.
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That sounds really cool. I'll look forward to it.
It was awesome to meet you, thanks for all your hard work. seriously, your videos are the best, and the level of self criticism that you do it with impresses me.
I'll stop spamming.
Cheers mate.
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Excellent choice, it could be a good way to avoid making videos that could be monotonous in the long run. But obviously this is just my opinion.