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I think for everyoneIs LewdPatcher down for anyone else or just me?
Down here as well. Been that way a few days now.Is LewdPatcher down for anyone else or just me?
In reality, Lucy has little (or rather no) salvation. I don't see how I can think of her as an LI (she has an insane obsession with the MC, but she has no qualms about sleeping with everyone, whether they have a cock or not, except the MC; and the most bloody thing is that she also makes plans to avoid for the MC to have sex with other girls, not that she has earned my affection with this attitude). Strictly speaking, Lucy doesn't perform the three letters, since the MC isn't in a relationship with her (and he will never be if it depends on me) but it's certainly not the kind of scenes I look for in a game (and yes, it does come close dangerously at three letters for much people, or even cross the line). In any case, since I don't see Lucy as a LI, I don't care who she sleeps with as long as I don't have to see it (the only scene that annoys me a bit is the one between Lucy and Mallorie)
The game doesn't pretend to be a harem: you have to choose to have a relationship with Lucy (discarded), Mallorie (in principle acceptable) or with neither of them. Also, with the incest patch you can also establish a relationship with the little sister (in addition to the one you establish, or not, with the other two main LIs). If you don't establish that relationship (or you don't have the incest patch) then it's seen that there is a path of "sexual trips" in which the MC has sex with a variety of side characters (I assume that all girls). Personally, I think the best LI is the MC's little sister, and then Mallorie, so I'm following their paths.
Then you have other side girls that the MC has or can have sex with (some you can reject, like Rose, others are forced, like the MC's first sex scene)
If she isn't, then she hides it very well (Actually she looks like it)At this point Lucy is more of an antagonist
In my case, as long as Elly remains exclusive to the MC (something that seems to me that the Dev already commented that it could be done) and, if possible, do the same with Mallorie (which I'm not so sure about, but I hope that can be done), then it seems fine to me.What you feel about every situations in the game wether it's bad or not is your right, cause everyone has different opinions and preferences of tastes, as long as you don't badmouthing the game for some scenes that you dislike and not pretending that you know better than the developer about how to run a business, I'm fine with it, and I'm not saying that you did. Some people does though.
You said a lot of what I wanted to say but in a more eloquent way. One small point of contention is for me. Mallory. She essentially kind of talks or influences Lucy to do what she did. I know Lucy made her own choice and as you say based on the cannon seems like it fits, but then there's also the withholding of information by both Mallory and Lucy. Which seemed from my POV to be Mallory's call and Lucy either agreed or just went along with it because even though it's not written in directly it seems like Mallory has a lot of influence over Lucy. If I was in the MC's shoes I would want to know every detail no matter how irrelevant it may seem. I know Mallory and Lucy make this decision based on what's good for him or so called need to know, but in the internal dialogue I don't really see MC questioning things or lacking any trust. I understand Lucy is best friend and gains Mallory some credit with him because Lucy vouches for her, but he doesn't ever question if they are hiding things from him or if they are being honest and open with him. The one or two times the MC does get to ask questions Mallory shuts him down on some of the options and he just accepts it... I am wondering when he is going to demand answers or if they are going to continue to omit facts and try to keep him in the dark. To me these reasons eliminate both of them as possible LI's.In my case, as long as Elly remains exclusive to the MC (something that seems to me that the Dev already commented that it could be done) and, if possible, do the same with Mallorie (which I'm not so sure about, but I hope that can be done), then it seems fine to me.
For me, Lucy's behavior towards the MC is worse (and I'm not referring to the influence of magic on her decisions, but to those that, from my point of view, she makes more out of jealousy than for any other reason) than the fact that he sleeps with the antagonists (as I say then she isn't dating the MC nor is she in a serious relationship with anyone). Certainly they aren't scenes that excite me (but we already know that she isn't a virgin, and that she has an active sexual life from the beginning) and surely I would have liked more to have had the opportunity to avoid them (and even more so due to the fact that they are the antagonists) Of course, if the game pretended to be a harem, it would not be a very successful scene, but it isn't this type of game.
Strictly speaking I guess the scenes fit Lucy's personality (although that doesn't make me like them). But it's also that need and ease of sleeping with anyone that makes my interest in her reduced from the beginning. If we add the scenes, She's an LI that is very difficult for me to be interested in. If we add her behavior with respect to the MC, it's practically impossible.
On the other hand, and this is strictly the feeling I get from playing the game, the LI who is thought of as really main is her (the MC clearly has romantic feelings towards her and she is clearly in love with the MC). Plus she's the one that best fits the Dev's idea of "equality" between the MC and the LIs in their sexual relationships. That said, since my interest in LIs sleeping with others is close to 0, it clearly affects my opinion of her as LI.
I don't see Mallory in such a negative light. She proposes the plan to Lucy, but knowing how she is and in the end it's Lucy herself who decides to do it. On the other hand, the one who really hides things from the MC is Lucy (for some reason, I guess the magic related to the stone, she doesn't dare to tell what the plan is like with the antagonists, and this despite the fact that the MC knows how active is Lucy's sexual life, which makes the concealment of this fact not particularly meaningful). Also, she cheats on him (both her and Rose) to prevent the MC from having sex with Rose or others out of jealousy.You said a lot of what I wanted to say but in a more eloquent way. One small point of contention is for me. Mallory. She essentially kind of talks or influences Lucy to do what she did. I know Lucy made her own choice and as you say based on the cannon seems like it fits, but then there's also the withholding of information by both Mallory and Lucy. Which seemed from my POV to be Mallory's call and Lucy either agreed or just went along with it because even though it's not written in directly it seems like Mallory has a lot of influence over Lucy. If I was in the MC's shoes I would want to know every detail no matter how irrelevant it may seem. I know Mallory and Lucy make this decision based on what's good for him or so called need to know, but in the internal dialogue I don't really see MC questioning things or lacking any trust. I understand Lucy is best friend and gains Mallory some credit with him because Lucy vouches for her, but he doesn't ever question if they are hiding things from him or if they are being honest and open with him. The one or two times the MC does get to ask questions Mallory shuts him down on some of the options and he just accepts it... I am wondering when he is going to demand answers or if they are going to continue to omit facts and try to keep him in the dark. To me these reasons eliminate both of them as possible LI's.
I understand but I'm just saying trust is a two way street and MC doesn't ever ask himself or anyone else are Mallory's intentions pure? Is it possible she just wants to control the key stone to use it against her enemies just as they plan to use it against her and others? I'm just saying MC takes everything and everyone at face value assuming that the two antagonists are the bad guys and Mallory is good. Like there's not even a small amount of internal dialogue questioning her or her motives and yet she's free to mistrust him. I think it's limited writing I mean if I were in MC's actual shoes I would be questioning a lot of things especially being new to the multiple realms and complete strangers. Like I said Lucy vouches for Mallory but when Mallory admits to Lucy she doesn't fully trust MC Lucy tries to back him but she basically backs down when Mallory says whatever it was she said. Again pointing to the fact that Mallory seems to have some kind of influence over Lucy and indirectly her opinions. It's not written in like I said but it seems obvious that when push comes to shove everyone MC, Lucy, and probably even Rose will bow to Mallory and her opinions. Given she's much older as pointed out in dialogue but idk it just seems too convenient. Now that being said I don't believe Mallory is evil or that her intentions are bad but MC just met her and immediately trusts her or at least that's the way it's presented.I don't see Mallory in such a negative light. She proposes the plan to Lucy, but knowing how she is and in the end it's Lucy herself who decides to do it. On the other hand, the one who really hides things from the MC is Lucy (for some reason, I guess the magic related to the stone, she doesn't dare to tell what the plan is like with the antagonists, and this despite the fact that the MC knows how active is Lucy's sexual life, which makes the concealment of this fact not particularly meaningful). Also, she cheats on him (both her and Rose) to prevent the MC from having sex with Rose or others out of jealousy.
It's true that Mallory doesn't tell the MC everything, but you have to understand that in order to share certain things, the MC must first gain her trust. Also, in my game Mallory is trusting the MC more and more and sharing more things with him. I don't know if it will be the same on another route or if things will happen slightly differently.
You are right about much of what you say. But the MC has been absolutely trusting and blissfully careless on each of his journeys through the multiverse (so to speak). I mean, he doesn't seem to have questioned much, not with Mallory or any of the other situations he's been in. It seems to me that it's his personality rather than something that happens only with Mallory.I understand but I'm just saying trust is a two way street and MC doesn't ever ask himself or anyone else are Mallory's intentions pure? Is it possible she just wants to control the key stone to use it against her enemies just as they plan to use it against her and others? I'm just saying MC takes everything and everyone at face value assuming that the two antagonists are the bad guys and Mallory is good. Like there's not even a small amount of internal dialogue questioning her or her motives and yet she's free to mistrust him. I think it's limited writing I mean if I were in MC's actual shoes I would be questioning a lot of things especially being new to the multiple realms and complete strangers. Like I said Lucy vouches for Mallory but when Mallory admits to Lucy she doesn't fully trust MC Lucy tries to back him but she basically backs down when Mallory says whatever it was she said. Again pointing to the fact that Mallory seems to have some kind of influence over Lucy and indirectly her opinions. It's not written in like I said but it seems obvious that when push comes to shove everyone MC, Lucy, and probably even Rose will bow to Mallory and her opinions. Given she's much older as pointed out in dialogue but idk it just seems too convenient. Now that being said I don't believe Mallory is evil or that her intentions are bad but MC just met her and immediately trusts her or at least that's the way it's presented.
true I guess he falls into the category that George Carlin talked about. The big club and you and I ain't in it. What they don't want is a group of enlightened critical thinkers. They want drones who are just smart enough to do what they can't or don't want to and just dumb enough to accept low wages, less benefits, the loss of overtime pay, and so on.You are right about much of what you say. But the MC has been absolutely trusting and blissfully careless on each of his journeys through the multiverse (so to speak). I mean, he doesn't seem to have questioned much, not with Mallory or any of the other situations he's been in. It seems to me that it's his personality rather than something that happens only with Mallory.