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This kind of replaced Bawdy and Amy for me. Mainly because of the Dev's approach to how he releases biweekly. The only problem is the old dreaded fatigue, I hope that doesnt become an issue in the future.

As far as the content, the rest of the side characters can be closed off in one scene. Its all about Mary!!! The dream sequence where the MC walks in on them can have a surprise twist. He can walk in on what he thinks is Kendo and Mary but it ends up being Kendo and the Busty blue haired girl. That can be her final arc. I hope every update going forward is Mary until we get bored. Now that we have "the goods" the possibilities are endless.

For example: I hope the Cosplay room is setting up a convention scene where Satoshi sees a couple in the distance dressed like Batman and Poison Ivy or something:

"Where do I know that body from?? Could it be?? No! Definitely not her, that woman has different markings (A part of the disguise)! Batman sure is giving it to her! Even with all these guests here! I wish I could do that with Mary. Speaking of which, I wonder where Uncle and Mary got off to for like the ten millionth time. Jeez the couple finally finished. (Pulls out) That guy is huge! What! He just came inside her! Shes posing?!...Now she swallowing and deepthroating his cum. That girl is hot. (Some of the disguise comes off but Satoshi is quickly distracted.)"

Great frickin game.
 

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You need to go back and make sure you get the Erina handjob scene in chapter 1 (before Mary gives uncle a BJ in her room and you get access to the map with icons on it). I'd highly suggest using my walkthrough so you don't miss it.
From what I read after spending my coin, the next update will have a walkthrough. I hope his next game abandons the sandbox element altogether. Its a stupid mechanic and the only sin this game has committed. Gallery will also have an unlock feature. I supposed theres sandbox elements for choice and to pad the game out but I'm here to tell you Id much rather have a shorter game that gets straight to the point then to have to sit there and click to progress. The OG WEGs padded out the content with filler dialogue but thats what CTRL is for. Theres a way to keep the reader interested with build up to each scene but I get that would take more time. I guess the formula would be a little bit of comedic or dark dialogue in between sprinkled here or there.

For instance: Mary could have an sexual innuendo conversation with Kendo by a bbq grill with Satoshi present. She can talk about how much she loves Kendos meat. Kendo could ask Mary to help him beat his meat. "You know what would go great with this Summertime feast? Some juicy melons!"

So on and so forth until the payoff scene where he plows her at the picnic.
 

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For my part, I don't mind the sandbox. Maybe even like it because it lets you make progress with the heroines in order that you want.

Like, I like to leave the scenes with the heroine that I like the most for last. "Save the best for last" sort of thing. If that makes sense.

By the way, are the updates bi-weekly? If so I would be willing to become a patron with that kind of release frequency.
 
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From what I read after spending my coin, the next update will have a walkthrough. I hope his next game abandons the sandbox element altogether. Its a stupid mechanic and the only sin this game has committed. Gallery will also have an unlock feature.
Yep, my mod is getting officially integrated into the game, woooooooo! Hopefully it will help cut back on missing scenes.

As far as the content, the rest of the side characters can be closed off in one scene.
I actually really like the side character's, adds a different flavor than most NTR games have, with Kendo conquering the whole resort. It also adds the opportunity for kinks that don't often get explored in most NTR games, like netori Harem and cuckqueen. In my personal opinion, the best scene so far was the hidden BJ scene through the arch way where Erina blocked Satoshi, and a big part of the reason was Erina's added dialogue. I'm looking forward to more side character's getting added and seeing how they interact in the future.

I hope his next game abandons the sandbox element altogether.
For my part, I don't mind the sandbox. Maybe even like it because it lets you make progress with the heroines in order that you want.

Like, I like to leave the scenes with the heroine that I like the most for last. "Save the best for last" sort of thing. If that makes sense.

By the way, are the updates bi-weekly? If so I would be willing to become a patron with that kind of release frequency.
I agree with Qianke here, I really like the sandbox nature as it allows you to play the scenes you want to see first or save the best for last, depending on what you are in the mood for. I've also warmed up to the use of sandbox's in NTR games in particular, as I think they can add to the overall voyeuristic feel of certain scenes (though this usually applys to RPG maker style games where you can see chibi sprites doing "something" without the player character getting all that info). At the very least, a sandbox can convey the feeling of "caught in the act" more than a kinetic novel can. The map could certainly be tweaked in interesting ways though, like taking it in a more rpg esque direction and give you a window into a scene before seeing it (but that would take some back end work).
 

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i'm a patreon and i still didnt play it so i think you gonna have to wait some days again
 

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Do Beloved patrons get access to the build at the same time as Dandy Patrons? Because in both tiers it says 2 weeks earlier access before the build goes public
 

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Do Beloved patrons get access to the build at the same time as Dandy Patrons? Because in both tiers it says 2 weeks earlier access before the build goes public
Beloved patrons >>>> 1 week after Dandy patrons
 

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From what I read after spending my coin, the next update will have a walkthrough. I hope his next game abandons the sandbox element altogether. Its a stupid mechanic and the only sin this game has committed. Gallery will also have an unlock feature. I supposed theres sandbox elements for choice and to pad the game out but I'm here to tell you Id much rather have a shorter game that gets straight to the point then to have to sit there and click to progress.
At this point you might as well just watch an H movie...
 
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At this point you might as well just watch an H movie...
The H movie's dont really get me as diamond as the KK graphic wegs. Id love to see someone try to animate a KK movie with a plot for once. Something like Doberman but using KK assets. DDSims does a great job making movies using Sims as well.

Just wanna take the time out to say this Dev is officially Top tier. I just saw on Patreon how he delayed the release in order to add a new Mary scene. It shows that he pays attention to the comments and gives the fans what they want. The side characters are cool but I feel like Ben Stiller because There's something about Mary!!!
 

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Whats the current total play time?
Give or take youre probably in for an all night fapfest if you start from the begining until now and read all of the dialogue. The masculinity points take time but there isnt any grind, more like milestone and achievements as opposed to prerequisites to unlock a scene. Short Answer: Even spamming CTRL, you'll get at least a few hours by my estimation
 

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Yep, my mod is getting officially integrated into the game, woooooooo! Hopefully it will help cut back on missing scenes.


I actually really like the side character's, adds a different flavor than most NTR games have, with Kendo conquering the whole resort. It also adds the opportunity for kinks that don't often get explored in most NTR games, like netori Harem and cuckqueen. In my personal opinion, the best scene so far was the hidden BJ scene through the arch way where Erina blocked Satoshi, and a big part of the reason was Erina's added dialogue. I'm looking forward to more side character's getting added and seeing how they interact in the future.



I agree with Qianke here, I really like the sandbox nature as it allows you to play the scenes you want to see first or save the best for last, depending on what you are in the mood for. I've also warmed up to the use of sandbox's in NTR games in particular, as I think they can add to the overall voyeuristic feel of certain scenes (though this usually applys to RPG maker style games where you can see chibi sprites doing "something" without the player character getting all that info). At the very least, a sandbox can convey the feeling of "caught in the act" more than a kinetic novel can. The map could certainly be tweaked in interesting ways though, like taking it in a more rpg esque direction and give you a window into a scene before seeing it (but that would take some back end work).
TY for the mod and ty for your input. I mostly prefer Wegs because of their "choose your own adventure" aspect which comes out cheesy in real porn. I'm digging how sandbox can allow you the opportunity to bang the girl of your choice in whatever order you prefer but when you have a hit like Mary, its best to just stick with the basics. Its hard to make a sexy fappable super hot LI in these games. Some try and fail miserably. Ill still fap because its still porn at the end of the day but the right LI makes the fap that much better. As far as the RPG elements, the only game I enjoyed with the RPGM engine has been Bawdy Traditions. I HATE that engine.
 

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TY for the mod and ty for your input. I mostly prefer Wegs because of their "choose your own adventure" aspect which comes out cheesy in real porn. I'm digging how sandbox can allow you the opportunity to bang the girl of your choice in whatever order you prefer but when you have a hit like Mary, its best to just stick with the basics. Its hard to make a sexy fappable super hot LI in these games. Some try and fail miserably. Ill still fap because its still porn at the end of the day but the right LI makes the fap that much better. As far as the RPG elements, the only game I enjoyed with the RPGM engine has been Bawdy Traditions. I HATE that engine.
Yep, big fan of Mary, but I also enjoy red headed milfs as well, so Natsuki is quite a hit for me. I also tend not to push too hard for my favorite girls though, as often times my "Favorite" girl also happens to be the most developed/the one with the most scenes (it becomes a self-fulfilling cycle, best girl gets more scenes and more scenes makes her more best girl). I always like leaving room for characters to grow and surprise me (but yes, Mary is admittedly a stud).

Yeah, I actually think the 2D RPG style can lend itself to well NTR (In particular mystery NTR or behind the back NTR, see Hero Boy Ken for a good example/suggestion). Unfortunately, RPG maker really is showing it's age; it's uncustomizable, clunky and limiting in terms of scenes and animations (there's a good reason established devs like NTRMAN are choosing to spend money building a top down RPG style engine in Unity rather than using RPG Maker lol).

Renpy, on the other hand, is amazing, and while technically not that flexible on it's own, the fact that it runs over Python makes it, theoretically, extremely flexible if you have some deeper dev knowledge (although it does get more complicated if you want deeper integration into the Renpy core). I hope that someday a Python library is created that allows for the integration of RPG style gameplay into Renpy proper. However, there is a simple workaround that, in my opinion, gets you a lot of the way there, at least in a adult game context; using the map screen as a top down layout (some examples of this include Sweet Affection and Corruption). There are some limitations to this technique, namely scale (it works best for smaller spaces, like the inside of a house) and you aren't actually walking around, just clicking from point to point (though I actually prefer this in some ways in adult games). Despite this limitations, I think there's some really potential to implement this in an NTR style game, and is particularly effective in giving a sense of scale and illicit discovery. a simple example would be having a GF getting fucked all over the house while the BF is oblivious. It may not work on the scale of the resort in terms of King of Summer, but you could get it to work on the smaller scale areas.

That being said, I haven't seen anyone use this concept with full-on sex animations on the map, or any animations (usually you click on the location and it jumps to a full-screen sex scene, standard VN style). I'll consider making a proof of concept someday; funnily enough, my mod system could be somewhat repurposed to accomplish this. I also don't know how plausible it would be to integrate Koitatsu animations in; You'd have to be able to "green screen" aka remove the background around the characters in order to integrate them into the map properly. Probably doable though.
 
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Yep, big fan of Mary, but I also enjoy red headed milfs as well, so Natsuki is quite a hit for me. I also tend not to push too hard for my favorite girls though, as often times my "Favorite" girl also happens to be the most developed/the one with the most scenes (it becomes a self-fulfilling cycle, best girl gets more scenes and more scenes makes her more best girl). I always like leaving room for characters to grow and surprise me (but yes, Mary is admittedly a stud).

Yeah, I actually think the 2D RPG style can lend itself to well NTR (In particular mystery NTR or behind the back NTR, see Hero Boy Ken for a good example/suggestion). Unfortunately, RPG maker really is showing it's age; it's uncustomizable, clunky and limiting in terms of scenes and animations (there's a good reason established devs like NTRMAN are choosing to spend money building a top down RPG style engine in Unity rather than using RPG Maker lol).

Renpy, on the other hand, is amazing, and while technically not that flexible on it's own, the fact that it runs over Python makes it, theoreticially, extremely flexible if you have some deeper dev knowledge (although it does get more complicated if you want deeper integration into the Renpy core). I hope that someday a Python library is created that allows for the integration of RPG style gameplay into Renpy proper. However, there is a simple workaround that, in my opinion, gets you a lot of the way there, at least in a adult game context; using the map screen as a top down layout (some examples of this include Sweet Affection and Corruption). There are some limitations to this technique, namely scale (it works best for smaller spaces, like the inside of a house) and you aren't actually walking around, just clicking from point to point (though I actually prefer this in some ways in adult games). Despite this limitations, I think there's some really potential to implement this in an NTR style game, and is particularly effective in giving a sense of scale and illicit discovery. a simple example would be having a GF getting fucked all over the house while the BF is oblivious. It may not work on the scale of the resort in terms of King of Summer, but you could get it to work on the smaller scale areas.

That being said, I haven't seen anyone use this concept with full-on sex animations on the map, or any animations (usually you click on the location and it jumps to a full-screen sex scene, standard VN style). I'll consider making a proof of concept someday; funnily enough, my mod system could be somewhat repurposed to accomplish this. I also don't know how plausible it would be to integrate Koitatsu animations in; You'd have to be able to "green screen" aka remove the background around the characters in order to integrate them into the map properly. Probably doable though.
Hero boy Ken is the best netorare I've ever played, a game that manages to keep a cool story with a very good nettorare and way above the average of what we have out there, it's a shame that it hasn't been properly finished, I would really like to see it more works by this author, more games like this, by the way, do you know if there are?
 
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Hero boy Ken is the best netorare I've ever played, a game that manages to keep a cool story with a very good nettorare and way above the average of what we have out there, it's a shame that it hasn't been properly finished, I would really like to see it more works by this author, more games like this, by the way, do you know if there are?
No other games, as far as I'm aware, but the author has released a few CG comics. They don't have the same impact as the game tbh, but if you enjoy the art style, check em out here: suggested, but here's the link if you can't get past the panda
 

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I loved Hero Boy Ken, sadly it was pretty much abandoned thanks to the autor going MIA.
Yeah, easily a hidden gem, caught me by surprise as I thought it would be another throwaway RPGMaker NTR, especially since the art isn't that standout at first blush. However, the way the scenes are set up and integrated into the map alongside Chibi sprites really does elevate it. Lots of folks also seemed to really enjoy the game as well, which surprised me. I'm always curious to know what other folks felt made it so enjoyable.

Luckily at least one full route was integrated, unlike other abandoned games, and it's a great route. Shame we will never see the rest of it though, the other girls and plot lines really had potential. That and Obidil are easily to two games that I'm most disappointed were abandoned.
 
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