I actually self insert as Erina. No I will not explain.
Well its your game and story so I respect you as a creator. I am speaking strictly from my perspective but the issues is the investment of the original three main characters. It is not like I don't like the Arato character. I just don't care about him or want give him a chance because he wasn't the original plot. If he is a side characters then sure. But Arato is written and paced like a main characters. As least an antagonist.
Had Arato been introduce in way where he start his own story and then smoothly be transition over, I think it would make way more sense. Him being shoe horn into this one just felt force, maybe intrusion. Like you are over here reading, wafting for Satoshi, Kendo and Mary but hmm... this Arato dude is taking the spot light? Then its just more of him. Him again? I thought this series about the original three, why am I force to read this guy?
This would goes for Kendo too has this series been Arato from the start. It would make it feels like Kendo is now stealing the spot light when he was not there to began with. Arato need his own spin off or series first where the main focus is his and his alone. The the universe of your King series can interlock and move forward to the future instead of going backwards to previous chapters with rewrite, rewording, edits and injects reworks here and there.
Regardless, more power to you. I love your work. My PC parts is three weeks out. You along with two other artist inspired me to start my own NTR animation and 3D journey. Wish me luck. Check out my works when I do an official release one day.
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No Try Studios Maybe I can get an answer to this?
EDIT: Checked the gallery and only Arato ending 1 is missing. So I'm not sure why it's 15/16.
I can expand on why some people like a character like Arato though. Some people just want to watch the world burn... in their porn games.
Everyone knows that he's the bad guy, but that doesn't mean seeing Mary getting bent outta shape and manipulated isn't hot.
I think I'm literally missing 1 event somewhere in the bottle game and then Arato Ending 1 unlocks.
EDIT: Checked the gallery and only Arato ending 1 is missing. So I'm not sure why it's 15/16.
I can expand on why some people like a character like Arato though. Some people just want to watch the world burn... in their porn games.
Everyone knows that he's the bad guy, but that doesn't mean seeing Mary getting bent outta shape and manipulated isn't hot.
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I don't like Kendo, fat ugly bastard isn't my thing, but I can appreciate the story for what it is. Don't listen to a single thing people say dev, at the end of the day it's your story and it should be told start to finish as you would want it to. Personally I disagree with the concept of patreon user content for that reason, but obviously this isn't just a passion project; it is also an income portal.
Personally I prefer Arato's route much more, he's a lot more sadistic and Satoshi is more actively humiliated which is my thing. But I can appreciate Kendo for what it is, people looking to make demands or complaining about how things are going shouldn't be listened to - if you try and appease all of them then you will inevitably please none of them.
Personally I prefer Arato's route much more, he's a lot more sadistic and Satoshi is more actively humiliated which is my thing. But I can appreciate Kendo for what it is, people looking to make demands or complaining about how things are going shouldn't be listened to - if you try and appease all of them then you will inevitably please none of them.
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I don´t thing kendo qualify´s as a fat ugly bastard. I mean he is objectively fat, and for Satoshi is a bastard in most canons, but never said once he was ugly
I don't know about others, but the complaint isn't Arato or Kendo themselves. It is how it took away from the original main focus of the story. The game clearly advertise Kendo in the front, but as the update went, It focused so heavily on Arato. Don't get it twisted. It is literally the shoe horn that I think kills it for some. Had this game been about Arato, this sure.
Yeah I think by far the biggest Problem with Arato is his introduction. That and how other characters behave around him.
At first he just gets introduced and it's no big deal. He's just kindof there having an occasional scene of annoying Mary, but not much else. But then he kindof kidnaps the plot because he's needed for a big plot moment and the dev didn't really set him up that much before hand. So you just get one huge scene after another of just arato, arato and more arato.
And the problem isn't just if you dislike Arato himself, but that other characters behave differently around him and if you like how those characters act normally, then there's just nothing to enjoy about those scenes. Mary isn't fun and cheery anymore, Shizuka isn't subtle and mysterious anymore. You can't enjoy the normal personality of the characters you like, because they don't act like that anymore and you don't enjoy Arato. So it's just a big stretch of plot that's just filled with stuff you don't particularly enjoy.
But it's not all that bad. Once the game gets it out of it's system and finally reaches that big plot moment, depending on what route you choose, you're back to mostly the usual three with Arato just lurking in the background.
So if someone gets to that point and really doesn't like the Arato content, I would honestly recommend just looking up with choices lead to the kendo route, enable skipping unseen content and skip towards the scene with the final route choice. If you don't like Arato and his stuff then there's not much you loose by skipping those scenes till then.
At first he just gets introduced and it's no big deal. He's just kindof there having an occasional scene of annoying Mary, but not much else. But then he kindof kidnaps the plot because he's needed for a big plot moment and the dev didn't really set him up that much before hand. So you just get one huge scene after another of just arato, arato and more arato.
And the problem isn't just if you dislike Arato himself, but that other characters behave differently around him and if you like how those characters act normally, then there's just nothing to enjoy about those scenes. Mary isn't fun and cheery anymore, Shizuka isn't subtle and mysterious anymore. You can't enjoy the normal personality of the characters you like, because they don't act like that anymore and you don't enjoy Arato. So it's just a big stretch of plot that's just filled with stuff you don't particularly enjoy.
But it's not all that bad. Once the game gets it out of it's system and finally reaches that big plot moment, depending on what route you choose, you're back to mostly the usual three with Arato just lurking in the background.
So if someone gets to that point and really doesn't like the Arato content, I would honestly recommend just looking up with choices lead to the kendo route, enable skipping unseen content and skip towards the scene with the final route choice. If you don't like Arato and his stuff then there's not much you loose by skipping those scenes till then.
So there is a game called Shadow of Desire by SHAMANDEV that I really like. It started out really good with the triangle characters. You got three route, cheating, cuckold and blackmail. You got the MC, main girl, and the antagonist. There are side chicks and side quest to get distracted with, but SHAMANDEV was mainly focusing on the big three. But just like King of Summer as the chapters started to progress, SHAMANNDEV started to add a bunch of random characters, plot and decision that made the game really messy and random, the interest in investing in the story got lost.
Characters started to 180 in their characters, that you are like WHAT? So in this path, they love the antagonist, but in this route, they hate the antagonist? But in the other path they both hate and love the antagonist? They break the immersion, consistency, and everything just felt lazy and forced. I started to feel like I don't wanna read anything when I am so invested in the main characters original plot. I just don't care about these random character that were not fleshed out? But I am force to read about them when SHAMANDEV left me in on a cliff hanger with the original three characters?
I end up skipping everything to get the characters I was invested in. Anyways, I am not saying I am a great story teller, but once I start my journey in my own NTR game, animation and stories, I wont make this choice. I will stick to a main plot and the side quest are but optional, or if not skippable, wont mess with the main plot. If there are new characters that are planned to add, they will be flesh out in their own story that will then be introduced in the universe later, or side by side.
I love both of your works! You both inspire me to go out and spend a huge amount of money to upgrade my PC that is coming in two to three weeks times to start my own series. I am studying blender, 3d Daz, photoshop and many more. I am thankful for both you! One day! My NTR series will come to light!
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I don't get that feeling at all from either of the games you mention. All the side characters in this game feel like appropriate additions to build a harem or show conquest.
And Adding a toxic NTR path in Arato is just adding a different slant to NTR. Kendo is more of the loving Dom, Arato is more the sadistic user. Different kinks for different people. Not everyone wants Daddy Kendo and not everyone wants Bratty Arato.
I do understand your feeling though, as that is 100% my issue with SAO right now. Kind of killed the game for me being cockblocked to deal with some character I give zero fucks over.
I just don't see it here, but to each their own.
It's just a different route . . . . if you don't like Arato, then choose to kick him to the curb. If you do so, his entire plot is a blip on the story. If you chose to keep him around and lose Kendo, then that's kind on you.
Different routes in games have different vibes.
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. Downloading issues? Look here.No worries dev it's most likely you would only receive complains about Arato here.
But to say it took away original focus on the story is pretty subjective. The game introduced Kendo first doesn't makes the whole world revolve around him you know? But yes I do agree Arato is introduced badly but the way dev remove Kendo out of the picture was brilliant.
Different route, different vibes, the game never sets out to just have 1 dude stealing Mary. Choices exist for a reason you know?
The game isn't even that complex, either you remove Kendo to follow the Arato route or you do the opposite. There you have it, your main story focusing on the dude you chose.
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Dont listen to the dumb cucks who identify with Satoshi and want him to win and get revenge or whatever.
Let them play goddamn vanilla games or cowardly netorase sheesh
Why is that?
He is pretty clearly the main character in the game, maybe even more than Mary.
I didn't play the game(just used the quick jump to after sex before path choice) but are you referring to the heart-to-heart between uncle and nephew? What do you mean that's brilliant, that scene is ass. Dude has been fucking the love of his nephew's life behind his back and then suddenly is fine with going away and give up on, what, 10 hotties because?
This, though, is very true, and it's the main reason why I decided to comment. Maybe add some quick choices for the skip options on Starting a new game, Dev? It's a big game, and since there are different paths it'd be nice to have those choices on the skip option.
Who is Arato? I did play the game long ago cant remember, is it a good ending that i should try playing again?