RPGM The Last Sovereign [v0.74.7] [Sierra Lee]

[Dyx]

There isn't any incest in the game however there is inseki instead since Robin is the MC's adopted daughter but their not related by blood.

Esthera-Nalili are considered as incest

 

[Tanurak]

Guys, I don't know how to wiki, so I'll leave this here, in case I find someone who does fix this on Varia's page:

 

[ixcez]

save editor doesn't corrupt save files?

Nah I've never had any problems with the saves being corrupted, there are some stuff that you should be careful with touching but for instance as an example I just went through the incubus war and because I wanted to see all Mestan actions during the war I went and activated all mestan boxes on where he would help so he appeared during all three places and helped out even though it should be impossible.

Spoiler: More info if interested

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Holy just saw this adults game is from 2016, probably the longest running game I know

Yeah and well I haven't read any posts about how much is left by my guess it's probably another 2-3 years until it's complete. Since my guess is it's gonna be about another 6-9 months to complete endgame, then probably another 3 months for each of the final battles part 1 + 2 then at least another 3 months for the final optional dungeon, then lastly another 6-9 months at least for epilogue + postgame so probably looking at around 21-27 months at least or even longer to finish the game as it's looking. Might be wrong though.

Esthera-Nalili are considered as incest

Yeah that's true sort of forgot about the pair since I hadn't had any sex scenes with the two of them yet.

 

[Tanurak]

Holy just saw this adults game is from 2016, probably the longest running game I know

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[Usudi]

Spoiler: New quest choice

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A few people that dont like that decision got points reduction in relationships status even at 100 and maxed out events, can anyone check if the same thing happened to them? you can check by talking with Elleani, Uyae or Wynn that you had at 100

 

[Egris]

Spoiler: new harem member

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It doesn't have the usual NTR. The MC does perform netori at some occasions like for instance stealing and impregnating a married dwarf (but she's very willing to it since her husband neglects her for his personal harem and probably infertile while she's the queen and needs an heir).

Sex works a bit different in the word in that people are very open with it since lust and sex magic is a very common thing. Some of the races for instance succubuses and lamias I believe dies if they are not given sexual energy. The MC himself being an incubus king can also die if he's not given sexual relief from time to time.

So there isn't any netorare or netorase in the game since the MC is more of the mind that his women/harem are allowed to sleep with others, though most of them choose not to. Most of the scenes are also optional so it's the players choice if they want to send a harem member into an orgy to gain an edge at certain points. However there are several times where to get the best outcome you need to send some of the succubuses to have sex with others.

There isn't any incest in the game however there is inseki instead since Robin is the MC's adopted daughter but their not related by blood.

So is like "whore harem", i see thank you

 

[AgumenticR]

Spoiler: New quest choice

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A few people that dont like that decision got points reduction in relationships status even at 100 and maxed out events, can anyone check if the same thing happened to them? you can check by talking with Elleani, Uyae or Wynn that you had at 100

It's a known bug, but the RP points reset back to 100 after the talk, I believe.

 

[Phantombeast]

is the main story of this game complete ? i haven't played it in years

 

[Robin_Scales]

So is like "whore harem", i see thank you

No, not in the slightest. Seriously dude, just play it.
It's a great story with great characters. Trying to put everything into tiny boxes that fits f95's porn categorization doesn't work because everything is far more nuanced and layered than any other game you find on this site.
That thing in question with the 2 succubi is like 0,01% of the game's content, and has no bearing on the overall plot.

 

[Robin_Scales]

is the main story of this game complete ? i haven't played it in years

We are very close. Sierra is currently rounding out the final 2-3 releases of content for the final open world section (There is a LOT of content in the final open world section). After that the final major conflict of the game kicks off, which appears to be a 4-parter, including a final optional dungeon. Then there is a postgame. So we are probably looking at apr. 7 updates, and a likely final release in the later half of 2024.

 

[lostone2]

Guys, I don't know how to wiki, so I'll leave this here, in case I find someone who does fix this on Varia's page:

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Thanks for the warning. This section has been fixed.

 

[congamensch]

Trying to put everything into tiny boxes that fits f95's porn categorization doesn't work because everything is far more nuanced and layered than any other game you find on this site.

tl;dr TLS is a lot more subtle than f95's usual stuff thanks to the element of in-character choice, but can we really blame people for thinking otherwise?

I think another thing that makes the harem element more powerful is that the women in Simon's harem are there by choice, and I'm not talking about some momentary infatuation either- they've made informed decisions to be there, with the probable exception of Megail, but even then I think she's had some independence in the decision by accepting it as the inevitable consequences of her actions.

To me, it's a lot more meaningful that all of the harem members actually have the choice of seeing people outside the harem, but all the non-succubi choose not to, and in the case of the succubi, they only fuck other people because they're literal turbo sluts by nature- might as well ask a dog to stop thinking of you as a god, or ask for a cat to start.

Honestly, I think what's throwing people off is that they come into TLS expecting a typical porn game, and getting a little blindsided because both the plot and the *~plot~* elements are more complex than the stuff you usually find here. I'm not ragging on anyone who prefers that stuff, mind you; I like me some Miel, which is the fast food of porn games (I guess you could call them Happy Miels? ) and Free Cities, and I'm certainly not going to blame anyone for hearing that 'women in TLS can have a sex life outside the harem' then thinking it's going to be an NTR fest because that's what you usually get with h-games like that.

And yeah, it's turbo frustrating since this game is the exception, as well as the whole 'Madonna-whore' binary inherent in the assumption (but that's a whooole other can of worms, and I'm not sure I can do the concept proper justice), but I think this picture sums it up best:

 

[Robin_Scales]

tl;dr TLS is a lot more subtle than f95's usual stuff thanks to the element of in-character choice, but can we really blame people for thinking otherwise?

I think another thing that makes the harem element more powerful is that the women in Simon's harem are there by choice, and I'm not talking about some momentary infatuation either- they've made informed decisions to be there, with the probable exception of Megail, but even then I think she's had some independence in the decision by accepting it as the inevitable consequences of her actions.

To me, it's a lot more meaningful that all of the harem members actually have the choice of seeing people outside the harem, but all the non-succubi choose not to, and in the case of the succubi, they only fuck other people because they're literal turbo sluts by nature- might as well ask a dog to stop thinking of you as a god, or ask for a cat to start.

Honestly, I think what's throwing people off is that they come into TLS expecting a typical porn game, and getting a little blindsided because both the plot and the *~plot~* elements are more complex than the stuff you usually find here. I'm not ragging on anyone who prefers that stuff, mind you; I like me some Miel, which is the fast food of porn games (I guess you could call them Happy Miels? ) and Free Cities, and I'm certainly not going to blame anyone for hearing that 'women in TLS can have a sex life outside the harem' then thinking it's going to be an NTR fest because that's what you usually get with h-games like that.

And yeah, it's turbo frustrating since this game is the exception, as well as the whole 'Madonna-whore' binary inherent in the assumption (but that's a whooole other can of worms, and I'm not sure I can do the concept proper justice), but I think this picture sums it up best:

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Lmao, you're not gonna believe it, but I actually made that meme, you added along with the text, way back in the day. A fun blast fron the past, haha

 

[lordfridge9]

tl;dr TLS is a lot more subtle than f95's usual stuff thanks to the element of in-character choice, but can we really blame people for thinking otherwise?

I think another thing that makes the harem element more powerful is that the women in Simon's harem are there by choice, and I'm not talking about some momentary infatuation either- they've made informed decisions to be there, with the probable exception of Megail, but even then I think she's had some independence in the decision by accepting it as the inevitable consequences of her actions.

To me, it's a lot more meaningful that all of the harem members actually have the choice of seeing people outside the harem, but all the non-succubi choose not to, and in the case of the succubi, they only fuck other people because they're literal turbo sluts by nature- might as well ask a dog to stop thinking of you as a god, or ask for a cat to start.

Honestly, I think what's throwing people off is that they come into TLS expecting a typical porn game, and getting a little blindsided because both the plot and the *~plot~* elements are more complex than the stuff you usually find here. I'm not ragging on anyone who prefers that stuff, mind you; I like me some Miel, which is the fast food of porn games (I guess you could call them Happy Miels? ) and Free Cities, and I'm certainly not going to blame anyone for hearing that 'women in TLS can have a sex life outside the harem' then thinking it's going to be an NTR fest because that's what you usually get with h-games like that.

And yeah, it's turbo frustrating since this game is the exception, as well as the whole 'Madonna-whore' binary inherent in the assumption (but that's a whooole other can of worms, and I'm not sure I can do the concept proper justice), but I think this picture sums it up best:

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Then stop calling it a "harem" and treat it what it really is, simply a poly relationship, I believe this would solve a lot of headache for everyone. Yes, by definition harems are that as well, but it's also a very dumb, very silly and unrealistic power fantasy. A lot of this is the fault of writers unable to create either a proper story or good character development to subvert the genres shortcomings.

 

[ixcez]

tl;dr TLS is a lot more subtle than f95's usual stuff thanks to the element of in-character choice, but can we really blame people for thinking otherwise?

I think another thing that makes the harem element more powerful is that the women in Simon's harem are there by choice, and I'm not talking about some momentary infatuation either- they've made informed decisions to be there, with the probable exception of Megail, but even then I think she's had some independence in the decision by accepting it as the inevitable consequences of her actions.

To me, it's a lot more meaningful that all of the harem members actually have the choice of seeing people outside the harem, but all the non-succubi choose not to, and in the case of the succubi, they only fuck other people because they're literal turbo sluts by nature- might as well ask a dog to stop thinking of you as a god, or ask for a cat to start.

Honestly, I think what's throwing people off is that they come into TLS expecting a typical porn game, and getting a little blindsided because both the plot and the *~plot~* elements are more complex than the stuff you usually find here. I'm not ragging on anyone who prefers that stuff, mind you; I like me some Miel, which is the fast food of porn games (I guess you could call them Happy Miels? ) and Free Cities, and I'm certainly not going to blame anyone for hearing that 'women in TLS can have a sex life outside the harem' then thinking it's going to be an NTR fest because that's what you usually get with h-games like that.

And yeah, it's turbo frustrating since this game is the exception, as well as the whole 'Madonna-whore' binary inherent in the assumption (but that's a whooole other can of worms, and I'm not sure I can do the concept proper justice), but I think this picture sums it up best:

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To be fair overall in the game we the players have very little influence in the way the characters act. With that I mean we overall don't make choices on the characters mundane choices and instead we "nudge" choices during important parts and then that in turn decides how the next part will unfold. Like at points if it was a "normal" porn games for instance when the hot dwarf milf comes onto the party for sex you'd think the player would get the option for the MC to bang her but instead she comes onto Hilstara and the MC just goes go for it have fun you two. Which I'm not against in anyway, but it shows how in the common stuff we have no decision making powers but when it comes to who we send our troops to we can pick and choose to some degree which in turn might make X person like the MC more or less.

So I'd say it's kinda hard to project yourself onto the MC here, which a lot of people seem to do, just because of the lack of control we have in how the characters actually act.

My personal thought on the game and a bit based on the game world is that we the players act more like agents of "destiny" and there is a clearly intended way the story should unfold seeing as the "best" outcome is always rewarded while the "worst" outcome is always punished. Which in turn just makes me as a player feel a lack of control and makes the game feel very streamlined in that "this" is the "right choice", though you might reach it in several ways. But I'm getting very off track here. My point is the game unfolds more like a written story with a set narrative, in my opinion, which isn't a bad thing but it makes the player feel like a bystander which is both a good and a bad thing depending on who you ask.

With that said I sometimes question if this game should even be considered a porn game or not since while sex and lust is a very integral part of the game "porn" as such has a very minor role in the game and it feels more like an added part to draw players. I mean maybe it's just me but I think I got some 250-300 hours of gameplay over the years into this game but don't think I've ever felt even aroused from it once and I just play it for the story xD

 

[Deepsea]

Then stop calling it a "harem" and treat it what it really is, simply a poly relationship, I believe this would solve a lot of headache for everyone. Yes, by definition harems are that as well, but it's also a very dumb, very silly and unrealistic power fantasy. A lot of this is the fault of writers unable to create either a proper story or good character development to subvert the genres shortcomings.

It is technically a Harem though, in the traditional sense and not in the porn sense. The sultans of the Ottoman empire for example supported the women who chose to be there, making sure their families were financially supported for what they were providing.
Modern poly relationships just took the classic harem dynamic and rebranded it with the lingo of today.

 

[52000758]

The length of this game is literally on par with triple A games or more, most porn game I play is usually done within days or 1-2 weeks, but this game took me a whole ass 2 MONTHS to play to the current update, it's not even finished yet. And this is the only game I can confidently say I play for the plot, very few instances that i feel aroused and want to bust a nut, most characters are very likable.

 

[Gorgor]

I stopped playing this game since it kept having missing images so I wonder if that has been fixed. And is there a good walkthrough for completionists that is up-to-date? If not then I'll just continue waiting for the final release, cause this game is actually one of the better games on this site.

 

[Goi]

if you want everything to have images you have a few years to wait most likely since artwork being added will continue past the 1.0.0. right now if I remember right all of chapter 2 and some of chapter 3 have artwork

there is a thosha walkthrough on the wiki that is up to date and has been but still chance for things to change dues to finaly knowing what is fully needed

there is the roadmap on the blog or spoiler in thread that shows where things are

 

[52000758]

My main complaint is that the game has TOO MANY hidden scores that affect the outcome of the story, it's literally impossible to get the good ending for the most part without the wiki.