VN Ren'Py The Neverwhere Tales [v0.5.0.4p] [Ceolag]

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Maviarab

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This does raise one of the real questions though: if the MC has 0 points with Kaija, did he actually love her? I'm inclined to think not. The two clearly weren't on the same page in terms of how they like being treated and aren't especially forgiving of the others' habits. Given the retroactive backstory at play, it seems likely the MC's attitude towards Kaija was as tepid as her attitude towards him.
I don't think it does or says that at all and the dialogue itself shows that. I think you're projecting there in all honesty.

It's shown, very clearly, the MC is starting to get fed up with the way Kaija treats him and the relationship. So at the start, sure, he becoming miffed at her never being around. Perfectly normal if you ask me from anyone in any relationship. So getting zero points with her, due to in all reality, quite innocent actions...is not a reflection of the MC never caring.

If anything, with what we are presented, he cares more than she does, and are probably only still together because of the MC.
 

nitkonikic

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This does raise one of the real questions though: if the MC has 0 points with Kaija, did he actually love her? I'm inclined to think not. The two clearly weren't on the same page in terms of how they like being treated and aren't especially forgiving of the others' habits. Given the retroactive backstory at play, it seems likely the MC's attitude towards Kaija was as tepid as her attitude towards him.
It is very, very, VERY easy to get 0 points currently.
1-2 points if you're being nice.

Have sex with Kaija.
Get mad at her for leaving again (chuck it down to stress and yet another fight because she's always away)
Call or Don't call her while she's at work.
Tell her to be careful once she comes to help with mercenaries.

There you go, realistic relationship and yet 0-1 points, and hard "friend" route.
Even best couples fight sometimes, having 1 point doesn't mean MC didn't care about her.

You know how I got my "friend" route on 1st playthrough? By role-playing MC in a relationship that's going through rough period. Gave her call at work and told her to be careful during the fight.
I genuinely went into this one expecting to like her.

2 points end of chapter 1. "Yeah, sorry mate, you're just a friend to me".
And thus, my eternal love for Kaija was born.

Ceolag mentioned he's changing chapter 1 choice for sex, so it will give 1 point (I think that's the change, too lazy to search for that comment), so after chapter 5 is out those choices will net 3 points, which is love route.
 

Dessolos

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Not really, no. Neither will he.
fine ill say it again I mean im down for a total genocide of the elfs as long as the templars get taken down / destroyed whatever the fuck as long they are no more. As im sure both sides deserve it.
 

Kargan3033

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Hey how do you give a thumbs up on the rule's section of this game's discord server? I tried everything and I don't have the op to give a thumbs up to agree with the rules.
 

Avaron1974

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Do we have the option of genocding the elves with what was said at the end of the last release?
Just to note, they could wipe out humanity without much trouble.

as long as I can get rid of the Templars too as im sure both sides deserve it
And that would probably cause a human genocide.

There is no way the world is ready to deal with demons and incredibly powerful magic users as well as any other races in one of the many worlds attached to Neverwhere.
 

Dessolos

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I'm not so sure about that, from what I have gathered the Templars are far less evil then the knife eared three fuckers, also humans before elves always.
could still rebuild the Templars im just asking to get rid of the Templars not the humans. They need a change in leadership at the very least I think that's a fair trade. But im keeping Kaija alive after all she is my #1 in this game :) no down with Kaija from me
 

Old Grumpy Wolf

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fine ill say it again I mean im down for a total genocide of the elfs as long as the templars get taken down / destroyed whatever the fuck as long they are no more. As im sure both sides deserve it.
We would need to have a human genocide also. I'm down for that. Most are just parasites anyway. So, human and Elf genocide to save the world. Perfect.
 
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Kargan3033

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Just to note, they could wipe out humanity without much trouble.
Well if the human race played it smart and started to not only advance our tech but also magic because let's face it given what was said in the last release the elves are on the move and sooner or later the human race is not only going to learn about them and the other worlds around us but also of magic so slow make humanity aware of what's what and that having the elves and other races as enemies is a good way of uniting humanity.

Or so it would seem to me
 
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