VN Ren'Py The Neverwhere Tales [v0.5.0.4p] [Ceolag]

[xapican]

that LI will tell you later to call them something else.

What do you mean ? with "calling them something else?" sorry didn't get the joke it seems

Edit: Ok ! Disclamer this was an example for explaining the game mechanics, yes you don't need Kari to get full points with Medb, and the Game has enough "backdoors" to get high points even if you don't do certian activities with the LI or for whatever reason in one of the dialoges choose another answer.
It is a quite clever Mechanic, that allows to the player certain flexibility.

 

[Maviarab]

What do you mean ? with "calling them something else?" sorry didn't get the joke it seems

If don't get Kari advice, MC calls the Alfar Elves instead. When training, Finn will blow up at you. You then have the option to say 'Is Alfar better'?

If have Kari advice, you can tell Finn who gave you the advice.

 

[xapican]

If don't get Kari advice, MC calls the Alfar Elves instead. When training, Finn will blow up at you. You then have the option to say 'Is Alfar better'?

If have Kari advice, you can tell Finn who gave you the advice.

Oh he meant Finnabair with LI ok ! now it's clear, because you don't have any interaction with Kari after, that was * what throw me out of the lane,
yes I got that scene in the first playtrough where she schools you! great job with that sequence with Finn.

 

[motseer]

After a revelation from reading a nitkonikic post about Kaija and following Maviarab's excellent wakthrough, I experienced the "indifferent" Kaija for the first time. I can confirm that you still need to stay under 3 relationship points for this path. I played this "new" path up to the point of entering the Templar base before deciding to start over again, again. Heh, I might seem a bit callus here but, even though the path where Kaija never really loved MC fits a little better, I decided that, if she does fall in love with him, it will have more impact when I dump her lying ass. Jus' Sayin'

 

[nitkonikic]

After a revelation from reading a nitkonikic post about Kaija and following Maviarab's excellent wakthrough, I experienced the "indifferent" Kaija for the first time. I can confirm that you still need to stay under 3 relationship points for this path. I played this "new" path up to the point of entering the Templar base before deciding to start over again, again. Heh, I might seem a bit callus here but, even though the path where Kaija never really loved MC fits a little better, I decided that, if she does fall in love with him, it will have more impact when I dump her lying ass. Jus' Sayin'

Yep.
1-2 points = Indifferent
3-4 points = love
5 points = even whispers while leaving how much she loves MC

Running multiple saves for such small details, even some minor lines of dialogue here and there. VN allows lots of joy discovering various paths Ceolag made.
And frankly, all my dislike for her aside, Kaija truly deserves to be explored on all routes. Incredible character.

 

[Mike Hunt TG]

That "sudden change of direction" Dev pulled out in a middle of a game while ruining character's personalities and altering the story in the process still pains me deeply to my core.
Why did you remind me of this hmm?

Sorry! I'm terribly terribly sorry! Which characters did he ruin for you? I'd guess Rachel for one, though she always seemed a bit borderline personality to me.

 

[Tremonia]

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Hey everyone,

It's been 2 weeks since the release of Chapter 5 and while not everything went as planned or imagined, I'm happy with the result overall.
And that's mostly thanks to you guys. The messages, the feedback, the morale support - all of that has been awesome and beyond my expectations.
Thanks a lot to every one of you!
I spent the past 2 weeks fixing a few things on the game (see the post for version 0.5.0.1), preparing the Steam release (damn, creating over 100 icons for achievements isn't fun after some point...), and as usual a bit time on DAZ trying out a few new things.
Additionally, I started planning out the scenes for Chapter 6 and looking into how to set up Renpy to provide update-only versions. I wanted to do that for Chapter 5 but fucked up the folder structure mid-development.
For Chapter 6 I plan to release an update-only version in addition to the full download so you don't have to download the whole thing again and again.

I'll spend next week with the preparations and planning needed for Chapter 6 and the (hopefully) last adjustments needed for Steam.
After that, I'll be on vacation with the family for 2 weeks (which is one of the reasons why I pushed the Steam release to September - I didn't want to release it just before my vacation) so the official start of the development will be the start of September.
I'll probably have done a bit of development/writing for Chapter 6 before that (in fact, I already have a bit right now) but I'll start setting up renders after I get back from vacation.

I'll probably make a post next Friday too so this won't be the last thing you hear from me before my vacation.

Have a nice weekend, guys.

Cheers,
Ceolag

 

[Deleted member 1838060]

The saying there are "no dumb questions", so hope these are not.

1. Posted unofficial walk through by Maviarab, assume these are typos. or are these point for Medb relationship and not Finnabair points, Because the Dev is mean and hateful and kills off the best Character in the story




2. Assume I need to do a different game path to the following?
a. third Cinematics (Fiona)
b. Gallery locks - 3 with Fiona and 3 with Medb




Thanks.

 

[Maviarab]

The saying there are "no dumb questions", so hope these are not.

1. Posted unofficial walk through by Maviarab, assume these are typos. or are these point for Medb relationship and not Finnabair points, Because the Dev is mean and hateful and kills off the best Character in the story

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2. Assume I need to do a different game path to the following?
a. third Cinematics (Fiona)
b. Gallery locks - 3 with Fiona and 3 with Medb




Thanks.

1. All correct. Medb is taking note of how you act within Alfheim and towards the Alfar so you often gain points for her with other people/interactions.
2. Correct.

 

[Old Grumpy Wolf]

1. All correct. Medb is taking note of how you act within Alfheim and towards the Alfar so you often gain points for her with other people/interactions.
2. Correct.

I'm not even on Medb's path and the game threw me off when I got the park scene with her. Then later the way she acted and then basically yelled at me to leave and that look when she turned away, is going to haunt me.

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[xapican]

I'm not even on Medb's path and the game threw me off when I got the park scene with her. Then later the way she acted and then basically yelled at me to leave and that look when she turned away, is going to haunt me.

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You really know how to treat 'em

 

[Old Grumpy Wolf]

You really know how to treat 'em

Apparently. As I pretty much collected all her points without even trying.

 

[PaxHadrian17]

I'm not even on Medb's path and the game threw me off when I got the park scene with her. Then later the way she acted and then basically yelled at me to leave and that look when she turned away, is going to haunt me.

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TNT does a great job providing context - if you are invested in certain paths.

If you are going to replay CH 5 and go for Medb points, please ignore the following spoiler:

With very high Medb points, you find out that Finnabair was murdered by the Templars.

Medb will stop as she leaves and invite the MC to her farewell ceremony - giving you the 'Daughter of the Sun' achievement in the next scene.

It is there that you see Ailill and Medb next to the small boat that will carry the body of Finnabair out onto the water.

I only realized a critical piece of information when Mab, One of the Elven Queens, said to Medb 'Ainu hen Medb' (translates as daughter of Medb) that I realized that when I saved Finnabair after I won the duel in front of Ailill and Medb, that I had actually saved the life of her daughter/showed mercy to Finnabair.

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No Medb path, or insufficient points on her path and the MC misses the ceremony of goodbye and the knowledge that Finnabair was Medb's daughter.

It is much like making significantly different choices with Kaija and getting a very different version of Kaija with one being very callus towards the MC and the other being quite upset that her duty and her love for the MC have clashed so badly.

This is an AVN where significantly different choices have major impacts on different character arcs, versus the often-cosmetic differences when you end one LI path or pursue a different LI - something I just discovered with this release and multiple playthroughs.

Cheers!!

 

[Old Grumpy Wolf]

TNT does a great job providing context - if you are invested in certain paths.

If you are going to replay CH 5 and go for Medb points, please ignore the following spoiler:

With very high Medb points, you find out that Finnabair was murdered by the Templars.

Medb will stop as she leaves and invite the MC to her farewell ceremony - giving you the 'Daughter of the Sun' achievement in the next scene.

It is there that you see Ailill and Medb next to the small boat that will carry the body of Finnabair out onto the water.

I only realized a critical piece of information when Mab, One of the Elven Queens, said to Medb 'Ainu hen Medb' (translates as daughter of Medb) that I realized that when I saved Finnabair after I won the duel in front of Ailill and Medb, that I had actually saved the life of her daughter/showed mercy to Finnabair.

Spoiler: Medb

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No Medb path, or insufficient points on her path and the MC misses the ceremony of goodbye and the knowledge that Finnabair was Medb's daughter.

It is much like making significantly different choices with Kaija and getting a very different version of Kaija with one being very callus towards the MC and the other being quite upset that her duty and her love for the MC have clashed so badly.

This is an AVN where significantly different choices have major impacts on different character arcs, versus the often-cosmetic differences when you end one LI path or pursue a different LI - something I just discovered with this release and multiple playthroughs.

Cheers!!

I knew all that except for the ceremony. I only have 1 save and it's for Fiona. No plans of doing any other path. Just kind of weird how I got most of Medb's points. Also on my save, I took the choice of "Fuck the Templars." If that makes any difference.

 

[Maviarab]

Also on my save, I took the choice of "Fuck the Templars." If that makes any difference.

Mostly a dialogue change in a couple of scenes.

 

[nitkonikic]

Also on my save, I took the choice of "Fuck the Templars." If that makes any difference.

Wouldn't be surprised if this comes back again as "cosmetic" difference during some dialogue in future update.

It was mentioned in this one already, if you pick that option, you repeat it just before duel, if you pick no sides, that is shown. No idea if you select that you are a templar, only lunatics would take that...

 

[Old Grumpy Wolf]

Wouldn't be surprised if this comes back again as "cosmetic" difference during some dialogue in future update.

It was mentioned in this one already, if you pick that option, you repeat it just before duel, if you pick no sides, that is shown. No idea if you select that you are a templar, only lunatics would take that...

I never chose something about being a Templar. Fuck them. But I also know, from a screen someone posted, why I didn't get all of Medb's points. It was the choice asking if all the female Elves were bitches. lol

 

[Jack Nippleson]

But I also know, from a screen someone posted, why I didn't get all of Medb's points. It was the choice asking if all the female Elves were bitches.

 

[Maviarab]

I never chose something about being a Templar. Fuck them. But I also know, from a screen someone posted, why I didn't get all of Medb's points. It was the choice asking if all the female Elves were bitches. lol

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Amateurs....

 

[Old Grumpy Wolf]

Amateurs....

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