VN Ren'Py The Neverwhere Tales [v0.5.0.4p] [Ceolag]

[ename144]

Practically, that's difficult to achieve. Ceo can't know why a player is making certain choices regarding Finn/Medb/Elves... If he makes Alex react in a certain way, this might not align with a player's motivation.

That... would make it hard for how the Alfar treated the MC to inform what choices we'll get down the line, no? It will only get harder to react to the player's motivation the more time and other events are added to the pile while we wait.

If you're saying that letting us see the scene now would force us to get more (unintended) content in future chapters, that's easily addressed. Just add a separate flag for having 15+ RP with Medb at the close of the chapter (or piggyback off MedbPathLock=False, which is nearly the same thing at the moment).

 

[Malicre]

What's the point of the side girls in this game? You can't get relationship endings with them right?

 

[Dessolos]

What's the point of the side girls in this game? You can't get relationship endings with them right?

might as well ask what's the point in side girls in general / in every AVN out there. Also how do you know there won't be a ending with a side girl. Has the developer said so??? Even if he did who cares they care called side characters for reason get this it's like they are side content that doesn't matter if you do it or not, just like side quest in RPG's.

 

[xapican]

Well, the side girls in this specific game are not bad, Liked all their content, Helena, Anissa, Kari, Kate, Finnabair...
even those, like Sato, Mab, Linnae have their class.
Plus they let you get accion, while the LI are still building up. so bring them on.

 

[PaxHadrian17]

Or is a 3rd party trying to stoke the fire, and made it look that way?

Fair warning - this is a lot of my speculation and definitely a TLDR if you are not interested in the 'politics' of what happened in the latest chapter/may happen in the next chapter.

I absolutely believe that there is a third party involved but not sure how, re: Finnabair's murder.

For all we know, one of the Alfar hotheads could be in league with the third party (the way it seems some of the Templars are).

Finnabair's sudden turnaround from a human hating Alfar (being Medb's duaghter helped to counter Medb's efforts at peace) to someone not easily manipulated by that/those Alfar hotheads decided to let the third party know and arrange an ambush - by Templars or made to look like Templars.

This would be a two-fer - two birds with one stone - kill Medb's daughter and silence a new voice of reason that could have upset the third-party plans for war.

This is some very good intrigue, where we do not know who to trust among at least some of the Templars (is their leadership chain of command compromised??).

If there are Alfar working at the Pussy Twister in Neverwhere - it seems at least some of them have chosen? to leave Alfheimr for reasons currently unknown.

Were they banished or are they gathering information for the Alfar or the third party much like Nightingale was?

It seems likely that 'rogue' Alfar are working against peace in Neverwhere and other worlds - even Earth.

We have almost no idea about where Fiona fits into all this except that she sides with the MC (at least on her path) - she even escorted the MC to help protect/watch over him when he went to meet Medb and get his father back (and she did it so well that not a single Templar noticed).

So is she Alfar, dark Alfar - SvartAlfar - perhaps (if I did not butcher the spelling.. ) who chose to leave Ireland or the portal that linked Ireland to Neverwhere and her world what could be a thousand years or more in the past?

It makes me wonder if her cabin in the woods is near a little-known entrance to Neverwhere and the '80 minutes to Paris' via train (Kaija and MC conversation during the first trip to Neverwhere) is a few hours 'jog' (Fiona speed) to reach Ireland/a portal to the home world of the SvartAlfar.

There are so many interesting possibilities for the next chapter and beyond!

Cheers!!

 

[Tremonia]

So is she Alfar, dark Alfar - SvartAlfar - perhaps (if I did not butcher the spelling.. ) who chose to leave Ireland or the portal that linked Ireland to Neverwhere and her world what could be a thousand years or more in the past?

You know, the

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in norse mythology are the dwarfs. They don't look like the Álfr which also means the Álfr in Pussy Twister can't be a Svartálfr. She looks like an elve not like a dwarf.

 

[lorkdubo]

You know, the

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in norse mythology are the dwarfs. They don't look like the Álfr which also means the Álfr in Pussy Twister can't be a Svartálfr. She looks like an elve not like a dwarf.

I was seeing more of a Celtic mythology angle. Give than the seelie and unseelie Court are similar concepts, more so, I would say that the term is more apt to the modern interpretations of "elf's."

 

[xapican]

I was seeing more of a Celtic mythology angle. Give than the seelie and unseelie Court are similar concepts, more so, I would say that the term is more apt to the modern interpretations of "elf's."

well you never know, with Ceo LoL he mixes the mythologies and fact and fiction pretty good, with fascinating results, is one of the main reasons why I'm so fond of this AVN

 

[Ragnar]

Some side girls are better than main ones. Not that difficult because Elea and Medb aren't that great, at least for now.
Elea the office girl is not that interesting in a world full of templars, succubi, ellves and whatnot. Plus Helena is hotter.
Medb is hot but cold due to story pace, Im sure she will get better as a li down the line but so far it is what it is.
On the other hand Finnabair, the Valkyrie or the barista were good fucks and fun to be with.

 

[Malicre]

Some side girls are better than main ones. Not that difficult because Elea and Medb aren't that great to begin with.

Medb is fantastic and my favorite girl, especially after all the Finnabair stuff went down but your right some of the side girls are wonderful, at least better then Kaija.

 

[Ragnar]

Medb is fantastic and my favorite girl, especially after all the Finnabair stuff went down but your right some of the side girls are wonderful, at least better then Kaija.

Katja gets the forced li hate, I get it, I hate that too. But if you can look pass that you have a fiercely loyal bad ass ninja templar.

 

[Dr.TSoni]

Some side girls are better than main ones. Not that difficult because Elea and Medb aren't that great, at least for now.
Elea the office girl is not that interesting in a world full of templars, succubi, ellves and whatnot. Plus Helena is hotter.
Medb is hot but cold due to story pace, Im sure she will get better as a li down the line but so far it is what it is.
On the other hand Finnabair, the Valkyrie or the barista were good fucks and fun to be with.

Medb is fantastic and my favorite girl, especially after all the Finnabair stuff went down but your right some of the side girls are wonderful, at least better then Kaija.

 

[Ragnar]

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No need to fight, Fiona won the gold medal already

 

[Dr.TSoni]

No need to fight, Fiona won the gold medal already

 

[PaxHadrian17]

You know, the

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in norse mythology are the dwarfs. They don't look like the Álfr which also means the Álfr in Pussy Twister can't be a Svartálfr. She looks like an elve not like a dwarf.

I know our mythology, but the dev is creating his own story, and I'll let his lore reveals fill in the blanks for me (I'm trying to avoid my own mythology bias with this story).

I was not suggesting that the Alfar in the Pussy Twister was anyone But one of the 'light elves.'

The presence of an elf in this establishment could mean many things - banished, some form of debt to be paid, dancer/informant, etc.

We just don't know.

Whoever the third party is, they likely have access to high level illusion casting capable mages.

Are they some type of elf, human, or even a mixed-race group including an as yet unidentified (to the MC) race intent on damaging the Templars and elves with some ulterior motive as yet unknown?

We know the hellspawn we've met are involved, but beyond committing murder and mayhem, is there a guiding force (Demon only or something else/more) with larger strategic goals in mind?

These mysteries are part of what makes this story so interesting to me.

I even mentioned to Ceolag that a 'Known Lore' section, in AVN, would be helpful as some - like me - want to try to keep track of everything (if only because I'm likely to forget what Min Ebra and Ainu mean without some type of refresher ahead of the next CH release)!

Cheers!!

 

[ModiThorrson]

Some side girls are better than main ones. Not that difficult because Elea and Medb aren't that great, at least for now.
Elea the office girl is not that interesting in a world full of templars, succubi, ellves and whatnot. Plus Helena is hotter.
Medb is hot but cold due to story pace, Im sure she will get better as a li down the line but so far it is what it is.
On the other hand Finnabair, the Valkyrie or the barista were good fucks and fun to be with.

Agreed, Elea is hot and a cool friend but she's just too vanilla for me, just your typical office worker(so far).
Fiona is attractive and mysterious, has the bestest pup, and is generally cool, she's my #2 LI in the game.
Medb is probably going to be interesting but I've never been into the older woman/milf trope so she just doesn't do it for me.
Kaija is by far my favorite LI, she's insanely hot and capabale, her love side is challenging from an emotional standpoint because of the secrecy surrounding her, but the way she starts putting you first as you progress the love path makes it feel like she's truly looking for personal redemption.

All that said, I'd ditch all 4 of the main LIS for Finnabair if it were possible lol. The other side girls are fun diversions as well but not on finn's level.

 

[motseer]

I know our mythology, but the dev is creating his own story, and I'll let his lore reveals fill in the blanks for me (I'm trying to avoid my own mythology bias with this story).

I was not suggesting that the Alfar in the Pussy Twister was anyone But one of the 'light elves.'

The presence of an elf in this establishment could mean many things - banished, some form debt to be paid, dancer/informant, etc.

We just don't know.

Whoever the third party is, they likely have access to high level illusion casting capable mages.

Are they some type of elf, human, or even a mixed-race group including an as yet unidentified (to the MC) race intent on damaging the Templars and elves with some ulterior motive as yet unknown?

We know the hellspawn we've met are involved, but beyond committing murder and mayhem, is there a guiding force (Demon only or something else/more) with larger strategic goals in mind?

These mysteries are part of what makes this story so interesting to me.

I even mentioned to Ceolag that a 'Known Lore' section, in AVN, would be helpful as some - like me - want to try to keep track of everything (if only because I'm likely to forget what Min Ebra and Ainu mean without some type of refresher ahead of the next CH release)!

Cheers!!

Yeah, a Lore, Location, People and Dictionary codex would be very handy. Even just an index of word meanings we have learned would be very useful. Maybe this could be another mod or an annex to the walkthrough by Maviarab?

 

[e6mill]

Fiona is attractive and mysterious, has the bestest pup, and is generally cool, she's my #2 LI in the game.

Very mysterious. Need to learn more whether I change allegiance to her or not.

 

[xapican]

Yeah, a Lore, Location, People and Dictionary codex would be very handy. Even just an index of word meanings we have learned would be very useful. Maybe this could be another mod or an annex to the walkthrough by Maviarab?

Mavi was very assiduous today, in the Lore and Legends thread there are already links and pics of diverse things posted by the sheer amount of material aviable it would be a sisiphos work to put that into a pdf ....
edit: sisiphean (you english guy's keep changing the names apreciate the hint my friend )

 

[motseer]

Mavi was very assiduous today, in the Lore and Legends thread there are already links and pics of diverse things posted by the sheer amount of material aviable it would be a sisiphos work to put that into a pdf ....

Well, shut my mouth. I should a guessed. Thanks for the link. I'll be sure to keep track of it and give it a good perusal. So... Sisiphos... isn't that his cousin?