VN Ren'Py The Neverwhere Tales [v0.5.0.4p] [Ceolag]

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nitkonikic

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to Kaija: This bitch has no right to exist in my saves at all! Unfortunately, there is a fear that when he returns, some kind of communication/interaction will take place with her and with the MC's parents (which I have no desire/interest in at all). I will take a close look at the upcoming dialogues/actions in v0.6, as they give an indication of how seriously the dev takes the "Burning Bridges" thing. I fear a soft path!
I might be speaking nonsense, but 90% certain it was mentioned in this thread (lord knows where) that "burned bridges" will actually be proper burned bridges and that it was confirmed on Discord or something.

Don't hold me on that, but I'm certain I've read it here.
Heaven knows I hope that's true, and if my MC never sees their faces again, it will be best outcome possible.

As for Kaija, as much as I hate her, don't think there's any viable way to resolve Templar/Alfar conflict without her being involved. So even with full on "hate" route (0 points), I can definitely see her play a major role in events.
 

xapican

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I might be speaking nonsense, but 90% certain it was mentioned in this thread (lord knows where) that "burned bridges" will actually be proper burned bridges and that it was confirmed on Discord or something.
Correct, I read it too it was around ..... :unsure: well as Ch 5 dropped and It was the "Master" himself who said that. (Ceolag)
 

Maviarab

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As the Alfar Queen has already noted, she has a lot of potential
No, she didn't.

Doesn't anyone actually read my posts? I know I have a laugh a lot, but I never quote supposition or opinion as facts. My posts are perhaps the most factual in this damn thread when directly referring to the story/plot and what has or has not been said (on every route).
I might be speaking nonsense, but 90% certain it was mentioned in this thread (lord knows where) that "burned bridges" will actually be proper burned bridges and that it was confirmed on Discord or something.
You are correct. Going full burned bridges will be done. We will get one more opportunity to make ammends but if we don't...that is it. How Jessica will deal with this remains to be seen. I have full trust in Ceo's writing though.
 

minibaer12

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I might be speaking nonsense, but 90% certain it was mentioned in this thread (lord knows where) that "burned bridges" will actually be proper burned bridges and that it was confirmed on Discord or something.

Don't hold me on that, but I'm certain I've read it here.
Heaven knows I hope that's true, and if my MC never sees their faces again, it will be best outcome possible.

As for Kaija, as much as I hate her, don't think there's any viable way to resolve Templar/Alfar conflict without her being involved. So even with full on "hate" route (0 points), I can definitely see her play a major role in events.
I'll go with you, but you probably won't get out of her way completely.
No, she didn't.

Doesn't anyone actually read my posts? I know I have a laugh a lot, but I never quote supposition or opinion as facts. My posts are perhaps the most factual in this damn thread when directly referring to the story/plot and what has or has not been said (on every route).
Was it Medb then? I don't remember, I haven't played the game in a long time.
 

TrixRabbit

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I might be speaking nonsense, but 90% certain it was mentioned in this thread (lord knows where) that "burned bridges" will actually be proper burned bridges and that it was confirmed on Discord or something.

Don't hold me on that, but I'm certain I've read it here.
Heaven knows I hope that's true, and if my MC never sees their faces again, it will be best outcome possible.

As for Kaija, as much as I hate her, don't think there's any viable way to resolve Templar/Alfar conflict without her being involved. So even with full on "hate" route (0 points), I can definitely see her play a major role in events.
I don't know if it will change anything going forward or not but Dev seems to be taking a lot of flack here and on Discord (not sure about Itch or Steam) because a) a lot of people are unhappy about Finn and b) a lot of people are unhappy with the Li selection. Lis do not seem to be this devs strong suit.
 

Maviarab

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Was it Medb then? I don't remember, I haven't played the game in a long time.
Just two recent posts.
We don't know she has....just one throwaway line from Mab. Again, don't state things as facts when they are not (currently). Mab could say wasted potential because she has none.... Unlike the MC, Jess has shown zero capability of and in anything.

Glass half empty or full?
Suppositiion only in this thread based off a throwaway comment which could actually equally mean just the opposite. Really getting tired of having to explain this (especially when so far, as seen, Jessica has shown zero aptitude for anything, so the actual in-game proof is the opposite of what people just blindly assume and jump to conclusions with over Mab's comment). Will also add to this, Mab is not error proof, if on the kill Finn route, Mab is quite surprised you genuinly know nothing about the templars when she 'questions' you (and not that you can stop her from entering your mind)...the dangers of blind assumption.
Mab says (when looking in Jessica's direction after 'reading her') 'Such wasted potential' It's a throwaway line said almost in disgust as she leaves. That's all that is said. No context other than her not being able to completely mind dominate the MC moments earlier. This could mean literally anything from has potential to be more than she is (a goofy girl who takes nothing seriously), has dormant magical/superpower potential herself but is too lazy to ever realise it...could have had potential (due to us not really being 100% sure about knowing our real family connections ) or literally...having none whatsoever.

I'm really not sure (well, I am actually *sighs*) why people took this throwaway comment towards a bit of a ditzy girl who has shown zero....zero aptitude towards anything special, the facts (currently, as we write) simply do not support it.

Also, on a tangent from this line of thought, given we already know (fact, from the dev) that a lot of the story is linnear and the 'endings' with the LI's will be largely LI flavour dependant...then given that (once again...blind assumption and a lack of actual comprehension) that we can choose not to resist the succubus, rather throws a lot of doubt on the MC being some super God or a different race or having dormant and latent magical abilities....though that is still possible.
Rhetorical or do you want me to answer? ;)
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Tremonia

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I don't know if it will change anything going forward or not but Dev seems to be taking a lot of flack here and on Discord (not sure about Itch or Steam) because a) a lot of people are unhappy about Finn and b) a lot of people are unhappy with the Li selection. Lis do not seem to be this devs strong suit.
Are you drinking? At this time of the day?
 

nitkonikic

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I don't know if it will change anything going forward or not but Dev seems to be taking a lot of flack here and on Discord (not sure about Itch or Steam) because a) a lot of people are unhappy about Finn and b) a lot of people are unhappy with the Li selection. Lis do not seem to be this devs strong suit.
Quite frankly, I hope he completely ignores those complaints and keeps on making game he wants to make.
Not much else to add there, as I don't care much about outside stuff and only talk about what's ingame.
Game development is in devs hands, that's perfectly fine for me.

If Ceo disappeared for few months without notice, I'd probably comment on it, otherwise it's none of my business.
His game, his decisions.

I also disagree on both points being weak and consider both great, but hey, to each his own.

P.S. What flack here?
I'm literally on this thread since v0.2 released, and what flack? People seem to like Finn and mostly consider her death sucks, but almost no one (few random exceptions) gave dev any flack for it.
 

Maviarab

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Quite frankly, I hope he completely ignores those complaints and keeps on making game he wants to make.
Not much else to add there, as I don't care much about outside stuff and only talk about what's ingame.
Game development is in devs hands, that's perfectly fine for me.

If Ceo disappeared for few months without notice, I'd probably comment on it, otherwise it's none of my business.
His game, his decisions.

I also disagree on both points being weak and consider both great, but hey, to each his own.

P.S. What flack here?
I'm literally on this thread since v0.2 released, and what flack? People seem to like Finn and mostly consider her death sucks, but almost no one (few random exceptions) gave dev any flack for it.
1000% this. Well said.

I've noticed the last few weeks there seems to be a few new people to the thread who have some axe to grind for some reason.... Hopefully they will leave as quickly as they appeared.
 

flaviopaganini

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I don't know if it will change anything going forward or not but Dev seems to be taking a lot of flack here and on Discord (not sure about Itch or Steam) because a) a lot of people are unhappy about Finn and b) a lot of people are unhappy with the Li selection. Lis do not seem to be this devs strong suit.
I received several notifications about posts in this thread, but I ignored most of them. I'm a customer of this developer on Steam and, honestly, I have nothing to complain about regarding this game. Was there an update on the Patreon version that hasn't reached Steam yet and caused this wave of complaints? Because from what you're describing, it doesn't even seem like the same game I played.
 

xapican

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I received several notifications about posts in this thread, but I ignored most of them. I'm a customer of this developer on Steam and, honestly, I have nothing to complain about regarding this game. Was there an update on the Patreon version that hasn't reached Steam yet and caused this wave of complaints? Because from what you're describing, it doesn't even seem like the same game I played.
No, no Patreon Update, Flavio.
Just diferent perceptions of the facts presented in the game.
 

Grumpy Old Aussie

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I don't know if it will change anything going forward or not but Dev seems to be taking a lot of flack here and on Discord (not sure about Itch or Steam) because a) a lot of people are unhappy about Finn and b) a lot of people are unhappy with the Li selection. Lis do not seem to be this devs strong suit.
A matter of opinion. I'm happy with the LI selection. Elea is a sweetheart, Fiona is mysterious, Medb is definitely interesting just a very slow development. And then there is the other LI that people love or hate and half this thread is devoted too. I don't have a problem with the LIs. I'd love to see Helena as an LI, apart from that I wasn't interested in the others being LIs, not even Finn. I like the other girls including Finn, I'm just not interested in them as LIs for my MC. Preferences and opinions do not always equate to facts.
 
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