I'm not as keen on Medb as I was. I think there is a lot more happening off screen Ceolag has yet to reveal. So I'm not writing Medb off. I still hope to melt her beautiful icy heart.
after this update as far as i'm concerned I think Medb's icy heart got melted enough for me sure there are ways to go but it's enough I can see a change in her and really like her character enough that I put her tied with my favorite. Since my new favorite is dead
I probably am going to make a cheating Save once I redo everything for Steam haha but that was my pure love path. I only cheated on her with Finnabair cause I honestly kind of forgot I was playing my love path cause she was such a good character
honestly, she can diss the templars training. she is several times older than the oldest templar. she has several times more experience. and is most likely several times better.
the Alfar best sword teacher is older than the human's whole current civilization... Oberon has seen Jesus and Cesar xD
Yeah when I started to play the update I was a bit shocked as I forgot how the MC looked lol. Makes me think he is lucky to even get close to Kaija even if part was a lie.
Damn what an amazing update , I don't even know what to feel right now... Finnabair such a good character. I forgot I was even playing my Kaija love path and cheated on Kaija with her that's how good of a character she was for me. But she will never know now she is dead. I just hope Kaija wasn't the one that killed her cause man then i'm gonna be real confused on how I feel about Kaija. Even if it was in self defense or she didn't start the fight I actually liked Finnabair more than Kaija and im starting to like Medb more as well I think in an update or two Kaija will no longer be my favorite but Medb will. Right now I consider Medb tied with Kaija as my favorite.
Still need to play the hate the parents path I played it nice and calm. I figured even if they did lose trust and lie no need to make things worst especially right now. But gonna go the hate parents path among others when I replay this come the steam launch. Before this update I didn't hate the templars as much as everyone else just disliked them now I really want to see them burn and help the Elfs don't even know why they hate each other besides a few skirmishes , don't even care if Elfs were in the wrong or do some fucked up shit later
I CALLED IT
told you Medb's position would shoot up in your list, and I was pretty sure Finnabair would too but I didn't want to spoil it for you
It can't have been self defense from the templars and Finnabair can't have started the fight as she understood MC's intention in stopping the war, and Kaija can't have been the one as she is smart enough to avoid any big issues with the Alfar knowing that MC is currently living with them, and she is skilled enough to just defend and leave if provoked.
It's most likely the third party that wants the war that setup the whole thing. especially if they know Finnabair is Medb's daughter.
I don't see why I shouldn't fault Medb for her arrogance and intolerance. Sure, she has her reasons, but that's true of pretty much everyone with a grievance. Unlike Finnabair, Medb ought to have the wisdom and experience to take a larger view, but she doesn't. She was, in fact, perfectly willing to let the MC die while under a flag of truce even though that was counterproductive to her own goals, simply because she didn't care enough to find an alternative. Even her grudging respect for the MC's mercy is a little undercut by the later revelation that Finnabair was her daughter, an unfortunate downside of that twist.
That's not to say I hate Medb. I appreciate there IS more to her character, and I'm willing to work with her going forward since she can be rational when she needs to be. But I don't see myself starting a Medb run anytime soon.
she probably let the duel happen because she values MC's skills and "destiny", I think. he managed to convince Ailill and Finnabair (her ex and her daughter... so she knows them well enough to understand it's no small feat) to be escorted to the middle of Alfar's home. He managed to beat Finnabair in a surprise attack before. He managed to save her from the cloaked Damas. He managed to survive her black out. He managed to resist the succubus completely. He was escorted by Fiona during the life debt exchange, even the Queen was wary of her. He managed to impress the Queen. He managed to survive the mercenary attack. He is the son of the Grand Master even if he constantly protest (it means his upbringing is not normal even if he didn't realize it), and most importantly, he carries Durendal and she knew a lot about its powers and it has a special meaning for her.
and He did all that in less than a week.
she knew he wouldn't die, so she wanted to test him and his resolve for peace. she is also very old and respects the traditions, her position also makes it so she MUST uphold them.
I don't think her relationship to Finnabair plays that much of a role in her subsequent decision to have MC live with them. but when Finnabair does die, she is overcome with grief and is pushed on the side of war against her better judgement.
All true, but it still doesn't explain why the Alfar and Templars are on the verge of war now. However heinous each side's crimes may have been in the past, if they weren't at war at the start of the game they wouldn't be changing that unless SOMETHING is ratcheting up the tension. Friction requires contact, and it's still unclear where they encounter each other often enough to generate any meaningful friction.
We're specifically told the Alfar can't stray too far from their home, and from what Medb said they have no interest in operating on our Earth. Meanwhile the only thing we've learned the Templars do is keep certain powers in Neverwhere from operating on Earth. It seems like the two sides should naturally be giving each other a wide berth, but that's clearly not the case. Presumably they're clashing over something in Neverwhere, but we're long overdue for details.
the third party is probably to blame for the war. maybe young Alfar that cultivates hate for humans, and powerful humans from neverwhere that want to expand their business to Earth and to Alfheimr to get more powerful and live longer. both manipulated and pushed by powerful Hellspawns, and maybe some old gods, that just enjoy the chaos.
it's because you didn't learn Quenya, the elves language! and you were too focused on Finnabair instead of learning from Medb
during the funeral, in their own language, they say she is Ailill's and Medb's daughter. that makes it cleared why MC being Ailill's guest has some weight for Medb. it was not just the guest treatment tradition. and he could just walk in her office during work hours, bypassing the receptionist.
and when Medb orders Finnabair to teach their tradition and lifestyle to MC, it was not just orders from a higher rank, it was orders from her mother, and we saw how Finnabair respects the serious orders from her father.
if you have sex with Finnabair, she explains their word for deeper love and family bond, and Medb uses a variation of that word to describe her daughter as the very last line of the update
they can, but they can't for very long, they just need to come back from time to time to replenish and recharge.
they don't need to, though. their home seems to be more than enough for them. there doesn't seem to be anything that they actually want outside of their home.
well, except MC's magic dick, of course
MC saw her body from pretty close in the funeral. it could be illusion magic, but he could see through that and they know it from the Damas attack, so it would be a big risk if they tried.
after this update as far as i'm concerned I think Medb's icy heart got melted enough for me sure there are ways to go but it's enough I can see a change in her and really like her character enough that I put her tied with my favorite. Since my new favorite is dead
I probably am going to make a cheating Save once I redo everything for Steam haha but that was my pure love path. I only cheated on her with Finnabair cause I honestly kind of forgot I was playing my love path cause she was such a good character
you can refuse sex with Finnabair without any consequence for later, and you can choose to get locked in a platonic friendship with Medb if you want to stay faithful to Kaija, according to the variables in the code
honestly, she can diss the templars training. she is several times older than the oldest templar. she has several times more experience. and is most likely several times better.
the Alfar best sword teacher is older than the human's whole current civilization... Oberon has seen Jesus and Cesar xD
It can't have been self defense from the templars and Finnabair can't have started the fight as she understood MC's intention in stopping the war, and Kaija can't have been the one as she is smart enough to avoid any big issues with the Alfar knowing that MC is currently living with them, and she is skilled enough to just defend and leave if provoked.
It's most likely the third party that wants the war that setup the whole thing. especially if they know Finnabair is Medb's daughter.
yeah tbh I think it was a third party but my comment about if it was self defense I would of assumed there were other elfs that attacked first not Finnabair but that is a very valid point about Kaija
yeah tbh I think it was a third party but my comment about if it was self defense I would of assumed there were other elfs that attacked first not Finnabair but that is a very valid point about Kaija
if he spent time with the Alfar, MC would be motivated to investigate and find out who did it and how it happened to bring the culprit's head to Medb.
but if you chose to kill Finnabair, then MC is the cause of the war, though. I don't know how the dev will resolve both choices to justify the war.
We can bet there is a traitor on the templar council too. William is too obvious, he was eager to go to war when MC's dad was kidnapped, but now he has no reason to, and he was reminded of the Elves power when confronted by the Queen. Linnae, though, could be a good candidate for a traitor. She lost her family because of the templars, she might have lost many friends to the Alfar too over the years, and she just left the council and got more freedom to act. she forced MC to go to neverwhere just when Medb's party would be ambushed, and being a respected trainer she certainly has tons of templars loyal to her, like Kaija.
someone has to replace her on the council too, so the traitor could be that new guy.
we know MC's dad was setup to be alone to be easily kidnapped. so he trusted that person.
I have to wonder if the MC's interactions with Fiona, and her guidance in her dance studio to close his eyes and try to sense the world around him, did not open up a latent ability that he had.
Perhaps Fiona could 'see' or sense it or perhaps it is a byproduct of their connection.
I think that even Fiona was surprised when Orla allowed the MC to pet her versus taking his arm off.
I believe that Orla is a guardian from Fiona's world and that she has senses and abilities that go far beyond those of an Earth dog.
If the MC/Fiona interactions (perhaps even going as far back as the point where Fiona almost ran over the MC when they first met) are the catalyst for the MC's emerging ability(s), it would help explain the difference between the MC and his sister Jessica.
The MC has an awakened intuition/gut sense that is developing and helping him to 'see' with more than 5 senses.
Jessica currently has shown no preternatural/magical abilities, and she has had no interactions with Fiona.
I think the time is coming where the MC will introduce Jessica to Fiona and I'm curious if there is a path where Jessica's potential starts to be realized.
I have to wonder if the MC's interactions with Fiona, and her guidance in her dance studio to close his eyes and try to sense the world around him, did not open up a latent ability that he had.
Perhaps Fiona could 'see' or sense it or perhaps it is a byproduct of their connection.
I think that even Fiona was surprised when Orla allowed the MC to pet her versus taking his arm off.
I believe that Orla is a guardian from Fiona's world and that she has senses and abilities that go far beyond those of an Earth dog.
If the MC/Fiona interactions (perhaps even going as far back as the point where Fiona almost ran over the MC when they first met) are the catalyst for the MC's emerging ability(s), it would help explain the difference between the MC and his sister Jessica.
The MC has an awakened intuition/gut sense that is developing and helping him to 'see' with more than 5 senses.
Jessica currently has shown no preternatural/magical abilities, and she has had no interactions with Fiona.
I think the time is coming where the MC will introduce Jessica to Fiona and I'm curious if there is a path where Jessica's potential starts to be realized.
interesting thoughts.
Fiona could have sent the ability when he closed his eyes too, or Orla when he touched her.
that ability could just be the power of fate, or gods guiding MC. Nimue confirmed gods exist. it's probably not a coincidence that Kari happened to be there at the right time.
if Fiona is the reason for MC's expanded senses, then she also indirectly might be the reason he got to be chosen by Durendal ? or just because he is peace loving ?
we can wonder if Jessica's potential is higher than MC's too.
honestly, she can diss the templars training. she is several times older than the oldest templar. she has several times more experience. and is most likely several times better.
the Alfar best sword teacher is older than the human's whole current civilization... Oberon has seen Jesus and Cesar xD
Finnabair may be far older than the Templars, but she's certainly not more mature. Youth apparently transcends mere age.
she probably let the duel happen because she values MC's skills and "destiny", I think. he managed to convince Ailill and Finnabair (her ex and her daughter... so she knows them well enough to understand it's no small feat) to be escorted to the middle of Alfar's home. He managed to beat Finnabair in a surprise attack before. He managed to save her from the cloaked Damas. He managed to survive her black out. He managed to resist the succubus completely. He was escorted by Fiona during the life debt exchange, even the Queen was wary of her. He managed to impress the Queen. He managed to survive the mercenary attack. He is the son of the Grand Master even if he constantly protest (it means his upbringing is not normal even if he didn't realize it), and most importantly, he carries Durendal and she knew a lot about its powers and it has a special meaning for her.
and He did all that in less than a week.
she knew he wouldn't die, so she wanted to test him and his resolve for peace. she is also very old and respects the traditions, her position also makes it so she MUST uphold them.
I *highly* doubt that. If Medb expected the MC to win then she also expected her daughter to die, because she makes it crystal clear that she did not expect the MC to spare Finnabair's life if he won the duel. That seems too cold even for Medb. Traditions or not, I think Medb would have found a way to prevent the duel if she thought the MC was certain to win it.
Also, while Durendal itself seems to be well known to the Alfar, its specific powers and history are clearly not. Otherwise Finnabair wouldn't have been nearly as confused by the MC's inconsistent swordsmanship or Nimue's revelation.
the third party is probably to blame for the war. maybe young Alfar that cultivates hate for humans, and powerful humans from neverwhere that want to expand their business to Earth and to Alfheimr to get more powerful and live longer. both manipulated and pushed by powerful Hellspawns, and maybe some old gods, that just enjoy the chaos.
Yes, there's definitely a third party out there stirring up trouble, but they can't make something from nothing. If the Templars and Alfar never encountered each other, no amount of shitposting on whatever passes for elven Twitter is going to start an actual shooting war on its own. There has to be something real at stake, we just don't know what it is yet.
I have to wonder if the MC's interactions with Fiona, and her guidance in her dance studio to close his eyes and try to sense the world around him, did not open up a latent ability that he had.
Perhaps Fiona could 'see' or sense it or perhaps it is a byproduct of their connection.
I think that even Fiona was surprised when Orla allowed the MC to pet her versus taking his arm off.
I believe that Orla is a guardian from Fiona's world and that she has senses and abilities that go far beyond those of an Earth dog.
If the MC/Fiona interactions (perhaps even going as far back as the point where Fiona almost ran over the MC when they first met) are the catalyst for the MC's emerging ability(s), it would help explain the difference between the MC and his sister Jessica.
The MC has an awakened intuition/gut sense that is developing and helping him to 'see' with more than 5 senses.
Jessica currently has shown no preternatural/magical abilities, and she has had no interactions with Fiona.
I think the time is coming where the MC will introduce Jessica to Fiona and I'm curious if there is a path where Jessica's potential starts to be realized.
You can avoid Fiona for the most part including the dance studio and never meet Orla.
So that seems really unlikely, neither do i think Fiona can gift or awaken abilities with a meeting and a short talk.
It could just as well his meeting with the succubus which awakend his latent powers, or just because he needed them.
As for the difference between the siblings who knows, unlikely they have the same abilities, so there can simply different triggers for the abilities to show.
I really doubt Orla is a guardian of Fiona, more like her pet, even if Orla is more than just a normal dog.
If you are not on Fiona's path, and neither have high points there really is no reason why the MC would bring his sister to meet her, like he had only a short talk with her in the park. Also if Jess abilities are magic related she probably just needs training.
I have to wonder if the MC's interactions with Fiona, and her guidance in her dance studio to close his eyes and try to sense the world around him, did not open up a latent ability that he had.
Perhaps Fiona could 'see' or sense it or perhaps it is a byproduct of their connection.
I think that even Fiona was surprised when Orla allowed the MC to pet her versus taking his arm off.
I believe that Orla is a guardian from Fiona's world and that she has senses and abilities that go far beyond those of an Earth dog.
If the MC/Fiona interactions (perhaps even going as far back as the point where Fiona almost ran over the MC when they first met) are the catalyst for the MC's emerging ability(s), it would help explain the difference between the MC and his sister Jessica.
The MC has an awakened intuition/gut sense that is developing and helping him to 'see' with more than 5 senses.
Jessica currently has shown no preternatural/magical abilities, and she has had no interactions with Fiona.
I think the time is coming where the MC will introduce Jessica to Fiona and I'm curious if there is a path where Jessica's potential starts to be realized.
hmm, if this part is for me - then I have no problems with it at all and never had, I was mostly implying Finn's unfortunate/unexpected fate and that nobody is invincible in this game anymore
I have no problems with Jess being a sis, in fact, it's quite a breath of fresh air when our sister is actually our sister, scenes with her were sweet, well except last convo, she kinda pissed me off a bit with fully taking parents side
I think the wasted potential comment from mab and the fact that ceolag made her so attractive are strong indicators that there is a lot more to develop with her character, and since incest content isn't planned afaik it would make sense for her to be important in the next book, likely after her combat training that she talked about with the mother. Though I suppose she could become relevant in the first book depending on the timeline, but it feels like things are moving too fast for her to get combat ready in time to be really important to book one.
You can avoid Fiona for the most part including the dance studio and never meet Orla.
So that seems really unlikely, neither do i think Fiona can gift or awaken abilities with a meeting and a short talk.
It could just as well his meeting with the succubus which awakend his latent powers, or just because he needed them.
As for the difference between the siblings who knows, unlikely they have the same abilities, so there can simply different triggers for the abilities to show.
I really doubt Orla is a guardian of Fiona, more like her pet, even if Orla is more than just a normal dog.
If you are not on Fiona's path, and neither have high points there really is no reason why the MC would bring his sister to meet her, like he had only a short talk with her in the park. Also if Jess abilities are magic related she probably just needs training.
I think the wasted potential comment from mab and the fact that ceolag made her so attractive are strong indicators that there is a lot more to develop with her character, and since incest content isn't planned afaik it would make sense for her to be important in the next book, likely after her combat training that she talked about with the mother. Though I suppose she could become relevant in the first book depending on the timeline, but it feels like things are moving too fast for her to get combat ready in time to be really important to book one.
Makes sense in your head maybe....also what has being attractive got to do with anything? You're projecting.
You know what wouldn't make sense? For Ceo to suddenly go with a FMC for a book...when he has attracted an MC crowd for the first story. The two attract very different players. On that, maybe Mab said she had wasted potential because she has none at all?
Also, different world most likely, why would even this MC even be relevant in the story, let alone our sister? Whatever happens somewhere (as all his books will be connected) that will imply a cannon. So she is the MC sister, that does not indicate anything, nor should it. Again, you're projecting what you want, not what is likely, not what may make sense and not what may happen in the future. It's entirely possible (because she is just your sister after all and nothing more, and there is no afaik by the way, there will never be incest, it isn't a thought, it's a fact) that if you burn bridges that she sides with mom and dad and we never see her again.
Now that is more likely than anything you have 'suggested' because right now, she is an unimportant and irrelevant character (in reality).
You know what wouldn't make sense? For Ceo to suddenly go with a FMC for a book...when he has attracted an MC crowd for the first story. The two attract very different players. On that, maybe Mab said she had wasted potential because she has none at all?
I didn't say her being the mc of book 2 was likely, but as I am not ceolag, I can't know what he has planned, but that doesn't dismiss the possibility.
As for wasted potential meaning no potential, that doesn't make any sense to me. How can you waste your potential if you have none?
Also, different world most likely, why would even this MC even be relevant in the story, let alone our sister? Whatever happens somewhere (as all his books will be connected) that will imply a cannon.
I'm not sure what you mean by different world, so far we've seen 3, maybe 4 if you count the templar pocket dimension. Aren't you contradicting yourself when you say why would MC be relevant to the story but then say all the books are connected?
So she is the MC sister, that does not indicate anything, nor should it. Again, you're projecting what you want, not what is likely, not what may make sense and not what may happen in the future.
I never said her being the sister meant qanything in itself, I was implying that ceolag seemed to make an interesting and attrctive character then teased potential character growth. Did I say that everything I said was a certainty? Just a likely possibility in my opinion.
It's entirely possible (because she is just your sister after all and nothing more, and there is no afaik by the way, there will never be incest, it isn't a thought, it's a fact) that if you burn bridges that she sides with mom and dad and we never see her again.
That's super, just in case you didn't know AFAIK is an acronym that means "as far as I know" meaning exactly what it says, I wasn't certain but fairly sure that there wouldn't be that type of content. So your unnecessarily aggressive recap wasn't needed. I agree that it's possible you could burn bridges and never talk to them again, but it's just as likely that those bridges will eventually repaired.
