Ren'Py The Null Hypothesis [v0.5b] [Ron Chon]

[mzerodark]

So hype for the next update. Can we expect any more previews anytime soon?

 

[RoninKai]

We are actively working on retooling things so it's not a binary. Like you can have Jean be your big sis but draw a line in the sand saying you won't let her dictate your life. Same with Laura, she can stalk you but you can confront her and make it clear that she can't act like she's your dom.

Awesome I was just gonna ask about that, glad to know the idea of a middle ground is at least a consideration for the future. Would be kind of fun to have an option like getting to a point Laura recognizes you as the alpha, she could still stalk you and protect you but more because other people haven't earned the right to challenge you yet and have to go through her first

For Jean this could be an evolution from younger sibling that needs protection to more of the Dad role as you get stronger and possibly take on the team leader position, you are the rock that forms the core of the group but Jean is still there to help with the burden that comes with it thus allowing her to still be the motherly/big sister type. Also as a bonus it gives another angle for the pseudo incest kink she has.

Rouge could also have a route that lets her become more of a rebel and hot head, maybe like a tsundere type? Like she enjoys being protected and cared for but just has issues admitting to it because she was never really allowed to be that person. This would give the people who don't like the submissive Rouge options. Thinking about it more though that would kind of have to be her default personality where you could work through it to reveal her more submissive side for it to work well. Then again I suppose you could just add an option early on to choose current Rouge or spicy Rouge meaning you would just have to add a branch instead or recreating the old one.

To be fair I know most of these ideas would dramatically change things and could potentially triple the already lengthy word count and be too much of a burden to make it viable but I'm just the type of person that likes it when you can tailor a story to your tastes. Do you want the characters to be based heavily on their comic counterparts without much variation because it kills the character for you? You have that choice! Do you want to turn all the girls into a pseudo incest family even though it goes against the original characters because that's your kink? Go for it this is a porn game! Do you want to cuck Cyclops because his balls haven't dropped yet? So do I!

Honestly this game could stay just as it is, add in Kitty Pryde and maybe Jubilee at some point (I know I know 'make it more like Rouge Like why don't you' I just like those characters so shut up), and it would still be one of the best games on this site. Well done dev team keep up the good work!

 

[D4CC]

I think It could use a "zoom in" when for example: you kiss each other. Would like to see the sprite upclose.

 

[ShinyBoots1993]

So hype for the next update. Can we expect any more previews anytime soon?

I'll ask the dev team if they can whip something up.

Would be kind of fun to have an option like getting to a point Laura recognizes you as the alpha

Eeeeh. I'm not sure how willing the writing team is willing to go for this. A big part of her character was that she didn't have any control over her life when she was at the facility. Making things more equal is definitely on the table but bossing her around? Not likely gonna happen.

another angle for the pseudo incest kink she has.

A mom and dad dynamic could work down the line...

Rouge could also have a route that lets her become more of a rebel and hot head

I mean we still have that planned regardless of her quirk. She feels safe and protected around the main character. She's still gonna be sassy and deck someone if they give her trouble. Especially if they cross a social boundary.

maybe like a tsundere type?

Yeah not gonna happen.

There are other characters who fit this role. Rogue inherently finds the idea of true love too appealing to resist. I mean she married Gambit of all people lol

This would give the people who don't like the submissive Rouge options.

Don't enable her quirk then.

could potentially triple the already lengthy word count

Prrrreetty much. Remember that the writers have to include arm poses and facial expressions which gets more complicated with some of the less noticeable tics that you can notice without player prompt. (The primary reason why the dialogue is next to their head). There's so much we want to do but we can't because we want to do more than one update per year lol

Like we had an entire fourth archetype called "Insane" where Null was driven insane by his mutations. However not only would we have to write all that dialogue and attempt to make it entertaining, we will NEVER be as funny as Four Elements Trainer or Paprika Trainer, we'd have to adapt responses for every character and figure out how they'd still want to fuck you.

I'm just the type of person that likes it when you can tailor a story to your tastes.

Oh dude so am I. If you're into that, look up a game series called "Fallen Hero."

It's a choose your own adventure text story you can play online or on Steam. It's top-tier writing and I try get the writers to emulate its depth as much as possible. It's why the intro of The Null Hypothesis alone has like 5 or 6 variations and why we're leaning so hard into the archetypes.

Sadly we are beholden to art requirements.

Do you want to cuck Cyclops because his balls haven't dropped yet? So do I!

Yeah, this isn't happening. Jean and Scott were never an item in our timeline. Gambit is still married to Belladonna (They make the marriage work in some canon timelines). If we take a girl from someone, and they're not irredeemable assholes, then we give them someone compatible.

I just like those characters so shut up

I mean they're quite popular.

I think It could use a "zoom in" when for example: you kiss each other. Would like to see the sprite upclose.

Already working on it. Not sure which update it's gonna be in but we have plans.

 

[Dazzier31]

I mean we still have that planned regardless of her quirk. She feels safe and protected around the main character. She's still gonna be sassy and deck someone if they give her trouble. Especially if they cross a social boundary.

Is that the sound of a punched Gambit I'm hoping to hear?

 

[Mutation8888]

I mean she married Gambit of all people lol

Would not exactly call that love. Desperation maybe.

 

[RoninKai]

Eeeeh. I'm not sure how willing the writing team is willing to go for this. A big part of her character was that she didn't have any control over her life when she was at the facility. Making things more equal is definitely on the table but bossing her around? Not likely gonna happen.

My idea wasn't really about bossing her around but more of her discovering someone she willingly submits to of her own choice. It would be less about Null saying 'hey you belong to me now' and more of her saying 'this guy is worthy of my respect and I willingly follow him' it would even be pretty funny for Null to not know why she switches from dommy mommy to loyal follower. Then again I suppose this could be what you get with the third option already being considered. She tries to go full dom and you tell her 'no bad girl, I'm not your toy' and she listens because she starts respecting you more. You wouldn't even need to officialy get into the inferior/superior alpha/beta topic in game but based on her actions it's a tacit understanding that she acts this way out of respect for your strenth/authority/ingenuity/intellect/whatever

I mean we still have that planned regardless of her quirk. She feels safe and protected around the main character. She's still gonna be sassy and deck someone if they give her trouble. Especially if they cross a social boundary.

I do like the idea of someone seeing Rouge act submissive around Null then trying it and getting a 5 finger refusal for the trouble lol. To be honest I already really like where Rouge is so I was mostly playing devils advocate to think of an alternative route just to blance it out and have something for all 3

Don't enable her quirk then.

I mean yes but then it just kinda feels like something was taken away without anything to take its place. I guess it kinda feels like Mass Effect if you had a Paragon and Neutral choice but no Renegade option for some people and then the reverse for others...or like Fallout4. Which is why I'm so glad a third option is being considered.

we will NEVER be as funny as Four Elements Trainer

First of all never feel sorry for that, I'm convinced the writers of Four Elements Trainer sold more than just a measely soul to get that good at comedy and point the second this game lies much more in the serious realm where you just can't get away with similar levels of humor without drastically changing the feel of the entire game and personally I like the more serious tone. Makes it feel more impactful, not just the big events but even all the small filler stuff feels more important and meaningful.

 

[Zazislazy]

Any chance for Female Protagonist down the line?

 

[phillibuster]

One can only hope...

 

[RedPandaExpress]

Any chance for Female Protagonist down the line?

Unfortunately that would be a very long way down the road. Since that would involve a whole host of new artwork for most of the sex scenes as well as re-writing the entire code base to account for whether Null is male or female, that basically amounts to developing two games in tandem.

Edit to add:
The official line from the Discord on the topic

" Female Player Character: It's something we want to do but we'd basically be making two games at once. Maybe down the line but right now it would add a lot to the work load and make updates much slower. "

 

[ShinyBoots1993]

Then again I suppose this could be what you get with the third option already being considered. She tries to go full dom and you tell her 'no bad girl, I'm not your toy' and she listens because she starts respecting you more. You wouldn't even need to officialy get into the inferior/superior alpha/beta topic in game but based on her actions it's a tacit understanding that she acts this way out of respect for your strenth/authority/ingenuity/intellect/whatever

Honestly, that's far more doable and in character. I'll run it by the writers.

I mean yes but then it just kinda feels like something was taken away without anything to take its place.

I mean not really? They're two different routes. A quirk isn't adding something to non-quirk interactions. Character dynamics are outright changed.

One thing to remember with quirks is that they are an existing part of a character's canon personality, 616 canon, taken to an extreme.

Laura stalked Wolverine in the comics. She spied on him with the mansion's security system. We made it sexy when applied to Null. Eventually, she grew out of it and as chapters go on, you'll notice this protectiveness dying off if you didn't enable the behavior.

She'll still be protective because she cares about her (boy)friend but less shoving you into a closet and marking you by biting on your shoulder and more standing in between you and a guy being an asshole on the street.

Which is why I'm so glad a third option is being considered.

I'll temper expectations and note that it's not technically a third option. You're just tailoring the quirk to be less extreme sexually. Want Laura to stalk you but not kick down your door and fuck you amazon style without prompting? Then assert your sexual independence.
Note: Laura will always respect if you say no even if you do enable her quirk fully. She'll just be less aggressive in her advances.

We plan on having fun with this. Such as platonic quirk enabled Jean. Lots of fun plans of her just sitting in the sidelines watching her little bro date all those hussies that aren't her lol

"Why are you dating that slut?! When you could have me."

similar levels of humor without drastically changing the feel of the entire game

Another reason why the insane archetype was cut.

Any chance for Female Protagonist down the line?

" Female Player Character: It's something we want to do but we'd basically be making two games at once. Maybe down the line but right now it would add a lot to the work load and make updates much slower. "

This. I want it to be a thing but sadly we gotta be realistic. Plus side, when we finish the game, we'll have half of the dude art done since we're making bros a thing.

 

[PrivilegedCholo]

it's very rare to see credit given where its due in terms of inspiration, devs are a g for that.
Rogue like evolution was nostalgic asf using my favorite childhood x men cartoon even though I didn't enjoy the gameplay and dated interface.

I hope you guys go far with this. If the nature of 3D avn's are already a 50/50 in terms of development, 2D is even more of a wildcard because its tedious work for even fewer renders. Just looking at the top 2D games without name dropping and some of em are just straight up going to take over a year already just to update which is beyond disappointing.

I just am only trying it and the intangibles like UI, menu and music are already so polished. Depending on it goes I hope it'll push me over the hill of supporting legitimately.

 

[RedPandaExpress]

I just am only trying it and the intangibles like UI, menu and music are already so polished. Depending on it goes I hope it'll push me over the hill of supporting legitimately.

The little things about the UI really help sell the game's immersion.

Take a little time to really play around with your phone. Between being able to customize it to the way that they have integrated apps into the menu. Sure, there are a few things which could be better accessible (girl stats take quite a bit longer to quickly check than is really convenient), but the framework for it all is just top notch.

 

[ShinyBoots1993]

I just am only trying it and the intangibles like UI, menu and music are already so polished.

The presentation was decided EARLY on to be something we wanted to focus on.

The comic aesthetic, the Synth/Metal soundtrack, the focus on facial expressions and the up coming dynamic poses. Equally prioritised as the writing.

Rogue like evolution was nostalgic asf using my favorite childhood x men cartoon

Just wait until we get to the era of the comics that the 80s cartoon was based on!

 

[red1988]

next update this game will release here guys

 

[DarkLurker12]

Kept gettin the following error. No idea if it was already reported or if theirs a bugfix floting around the forum.

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[Zazislazy]

Strictly straight content or will there be Gay/Bisexual content later with the male X-Men?

 

[RedPandaExpress]

Strictly straight content or will there be Gay/Bisexual content later with the male X-Men?

At this time, the content is strictly straight. Comments on this from the official discord

"Homosexuality: Our current artists do not feel comfortable drawing male-on-male content."

So unless and/or until alternate artist arrangements are made, this is unlikely to change.

 

[ShinyBoots1993]

Strictly straight content or will there be Gay/Bisexual content later with the male X-Men?

At this time, the content is strictly straight. Comments on this from the official discord

"Homosexuality: Our current artists do not feel comfortable drawing male-on-male content."

So unless and/or until alternate artist arrangements are made, this is unlikely to change.

A positive note to think about is that we'll have most of the male art done because of the bro system.

Also Red Panda left out an important part of the discord's statment.

"Homosexuality: Our current artists do not feel comfortable drawing male-on-male content. If this changes, we will fulfill my dream of gayfucking Nightcrawler... and I guess letting you guys go after Colossus, Wolverine, and Cyclops."

So there is an eagerness to include it when the opportunity provides itself. Though right now we're focused on getting the actual game out before we double our workload.

 

[ShadowWarrior]

I'm hoping that Dust gets to be apart of the game.