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Ren'Py The Null Hypothesis [v0.8c] [Ron Chon]
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Some minor gripes, in the hope that the devs improve some areas in future builds, or that some mods get inspired
1) That phone. In the game's inventory, you can turn it off. Fine, works as advertised: can't send messages, can't access Achievement lists, can't read the funny Daily Bungle news snippets – in a word, can't use your phone.
BUT: the girls can text you willy-nilly and that phone keeps buzzing and buzzing even when all you want to do is swim and sunbathe and turn on the microwave in peace. What's the point of turning the phone off if it keeps buzzing?
2) Sometimes, you quit the game, for example when you want to sleep IRL, and then you launch it again later on.
You get to where you were, when you were there. But if you have the perk that gives you a free shower in the morning and at night, the perk that gives you an additional action in the morning and the perk that gives you an additional action at night, there's no visual indication – you've just relaunched the game, after some hours/days away from it, you see it's morning, or night, but you can't remember: Did I quit before or after Null's shower? Do I still have 2 morning (or night) actions to do, or only one?
Some indicator would be nice, me'thinks. (Yeah, yeah, sure, just quit the game in the afternoon or evening, when none of these perks are in effect. Like I said, minor gripe)
3) Flirting. Very early, when the girls are not yet your friends, you can pay them some compliments, some with Love gains, some that they don't like and that make you lose Love points. Good. You can also use Dirty Talk to them, which they rebuff (but which they will learn to like later on, when you date them and mess around with them). And yet, those "crude" comments have no effect on Love points? Surely, that will be adjusted in future builds...
And a question: In the Tutorials part of the Database, we read that the "high class attendance" status condition increases Love, Trust and XP gains (see screenshot).
Increases XP gains, sure, I've seen that. But I have not noticed any difference for Love and Trust gains. Is there really a boon there? (some people who like looking at code might have an answer there)
1) That phone. In the game's inventory, you can turn it off. Fine, works as advertised: can't send messages, can't access Achievement lists, can't read the funny Daily Bungle news snippets – in a word, can't use your phone.
BUT: the girls can text you willy-nilly and that phone keeps buzzing and buzzing even when all you want to do is swim and sunbathe and turn on the microwave in peace. What's the point of turning the phone off if it keeps buzzing?
2) Sometimes, you quit the game, for example when you want to sleep IRL, and then you launch it again later on.
You get to where you were, when you were there. But if you have the perk that gives you a free shower in the morning and at night, the perk that gives you an additional action in the morning and the perk that gives you an additional action at night, there's no visual indication – you've just relaunched the game, after some hours/days away from it, you see it's morning, or night, but you can't remember: Did I quit before or after Null's shower? Do I still have 2 morning (or night) actions to do, or only one?
Some indicator would be nice, me'thinks. (Yeah, yeah, sure, just quit the game in the afternoon or evening, when none of these perks are in effect. Like I said, minor gripe)
3) Flirting. Very early, when the girls are not yet your friends, you can pay them some compliments, some with Love gains, some that they don't like and that make you lose Love points. Good. You can also use Dirty Talk to them, which they rebuff (but which they will learn to like later on, when you date them and mess around with them). And yet, those "crude" comments have no effect on Love points? Surely, that will be adjusted in future builds...
And a question: In the Tutorials part of the Database, we read that the "high class attendance" status condition increases Love, Trust and XP gains (see screenshot).
Increases XP gains, sure, I've seen that. But I have not noticed any difference for Love and Trust gains. Is there really a boon there? (some people who like looking at code might have an answer there)
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Working from home so only took a quick glance at the code for a break but it looks like Attendance only affects XP. Doesn't appear to do anything to love or Trust.
NexivSelecaf
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When are you trying to use it? I can access these things the moment they're made available.
This seems like an oversight. I'll talk to the devs about it.
Wouldn't the absence of the sweaty debuff be informative? Regardless, I'll bring up the idea of a "Clean" status. There's a difference between being informative and dumbing down, this suggestion is being informative.
This is likely an oversight. I'll mention it to the devs.
Likely another oversight.
A general reminder that we're in active development and some things are unfinished simply due to the nature of how games are made.
Despite the glitz and glamour, I wouldn't even consider our game complete enough to be Steam Greenlight worthy. That's the entire purpose of versions 0.8, 0.9, and 1.0 being feature additions rather than plot continuations.
You misunderstood me. Yes, these things can be accessed as soon as the phone is available. What I wrote is that if you turn your phone off, you can't access them anymore, as expected with the phone turned off. I simply brought this to show an expected effect, to be contrasted with the unexpected/unexplained effect that the phone keeps buzzing even when turned off
And yes, I realize that the game is in active development; I was merely pointing out some areas that I find lacking, not because they're badly done, but likely because they've escaped the devs' attention so far
Oh yeah that does make more sense.
It's why I put a general reminder.
If something is a bug or appears to be an oversight I'll mention it, as I did in my initial response, but a lot of people tend to expect the game to be more feature complete than it actually is.
I was just taking the opportunity to remind everyone who may have been looking through the comments.
I apologize if I phrased it in a targeting manner.
And I, being Canadian, apologize for apology's sake!
But, seriously, I apologize if my remarks sounded like some attack or blunt criticism. It wasn't my intention: I view this thread as a chance to help shape the best game possible in some future build, nothing more, but English is not my main language, and therefore sometimes I lack subtlety and synonyms in my comments.
P.S. Enjoyed reading your recommendations of Fan Games for Fans
Thank you for responding. I assumed that some things would change in the new version but it only seems to affect Laura. In this case I'm confused by her achieving a maxed out Love & Trust score of 1000 and yet somehow she was not a "friend"? As I mentioned I don't have an option of asking her for a date, nor is there an option to ask her to just go to the mall. She does sleep with me after studying or movie nights. Does the pool, movie night, or studying help improve the "friend" part? I had the "Cap stats" off so is it better to turn it on? Sorry for all of the questions but I'm trying to understand where I went wrong or if there's a glitch somewhere.
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Talk to cannavaro99 about the Laura not triggering dates. He's the only other person I've heard of that's had this problem, but he had it resolved somehow.
This is the normal behavior. And you only need trust that high if you are going poly.
JACKPOT!!! I've got my Laura back. THANK YOU! And Thanks again to salscou and pepplez too!
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What did you do that was different? Just text for a date and auto trigger in the evening?
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Yes. Originally (probably a month ago) I texted her for a date but she didn't give me a time and place. So I went to the morning class which is what I do every class day. Laura was there after the 1st class but there wasn't a way to trigger the date from there. This time I stayed for the second class and that triggered the date for the evening.
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