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It hasn't been mentioned in quite a while, so I'll just mention that it seems that Null's primary power isn't Nullification; it's directed evolution.
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It hasn't been mentioned in quite a while, so I'll just mention that it seems that Null's primary power isn't Nullification; it's directed evolution
Never saw this before while reading here (i've been lurking in the comments for months before i talked) but i also assumed it was something like that. I was pretty convinced of it when Null doesn't get any power like Jean's after getting almost evaporated, since at no point does he go "damn i wish i had a power like Jean" and instead at that point he is just thinking of stopping/help/saving her.

Which makes me assume that him thinking "damn, i want that" is necessary for it to actually happen and MAYBE being injured and/or also being in a dangerous/stressful situation for it to work, i certainly dont think he is gonna get telekinesis just cuz he dropped the tv remote and it flew far away and he doesnt wanna get up from the couch to get it and he happens to think "damn wish i had telekinesis"



Wants a... Rogue-like evolution.;)
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Never saw this before while reading here (i've been lurking in the comments for months before i talked) but i also assumed it was something like that. I was pretty convinced of it when Null doesn't get any power like Jean's after getting almost evaporated, since at no point does he go "damn i wish i had a power like Jean" and instead at that point he is just thinking of stopping/help/saving her.

Which makes me assume that him thinking "damn, i want that" is necessary for it to actually happen and MAYBE being injured and/or also being in a dangerous/stressful situation for it to work, i certainly dont think he is gonna get telekinesis just cuz he dropped the tv remote and it flew far away and he doesnt wanna get up from the couch to get it and he happens to think "damn wish i had telekinesis"
If we want to get "kotor 2" with this and use narrative to explain gameplay, we could argue that his "mutant abilities" tab at level up is a minor version of his power since he can get things like very limited x-ray and minor pheromone control. Though these are mostly just fun gameplay perks.

Also he gets the ability to unlock his stamina upgrades right after he copies Laura's power. It's also noted in dialogue that he has super endurance now as part of his regen during training sessions after Juggernaut.
 
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It hasn't been mentioned in quite a while, so I'll just mention that it seems that Null's primary power isn't Nullification; it's directed evolution.
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It's very likely that his power is some kind of absorption that nullifies other powers in the process because his body "adapts"—like All for One from BNHA combined with Darwin, or more simply, a variant of Rogue's power that doesn't drain energy and only give them a strange feeling of discomfort ( I don't remember if the power have other side effect on other people directly)
 

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It's very likely that his power is some kind of absorption that nullifies other powers in the process because his body "adapts"—like All for One from BNHA combined with Darwin, or more simply, a variant of Rogue's power that doesn't drain energy and only give them a strange feeling of discomfort ( I don't remember if the power have other side effect on other people directly)
Maybe. But then why didn't he absorb them sooner? Or I suppose activate them. And why not absorb Jean's as well? And how come each power manifested in the exact same way?
If he did absorb Jean's power, then why not activate? Because he didn't will it to? If he does absorb power as opposed to directing it to happen, then it seems that it still requires him to will it to manifest at some level.

Because if it was just adaption, then telekinesis and telepathy would have been handy against Juggy or the mob.
 

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Maybe. But then why didn't he absorb them sooner? Or I suppose activate them. And why not absorb Jean's as well? And how come each power manifested in the exact same way?
If he did absorb Jean's power, then why not activate? Because he didn't will it to? If he does absorb power as opposed to directing it to happen, then it seems that it still requires him to will it to manifest at some level.

Because if it was just adaption, then telekinesis and telepathy would have been handy against Juggy or the mob.
Perhaps because of the bond with the person, writers often use that thing to justify the activation as a mental unlocking process.
Due stress situations, the only problem is Null' skills, he can get more powers with the skill points, so maybe you're right about the evolution
 
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It hasn't been mentioned in quite a while, so I'll just mention that it seems that Null's primary power isn't Nullification; it's directed evolution.
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So... Can we call Evo instead of Null? Seems a way more appropiate name considering the true nature of his powers.
 

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Perhaps because of the bond with the person, writers often use that thing to justify the activation as a mental unlocking process.
I dunno, i dont really think we have had any "Power of friendship" moment to justify when Null "unlocked" new powers.

When he gained his Healing factor/Stamina like Laura one of the choices has that power unlock right after using your body to shield Rogue from falling debris as Laura shows up at that moment. I think on this option Null is thinking more about Rogue than Laura at that moment.

While the other option happens when you are looking at Laura who is standing in front of you after Juggy bitch slaps you away into a wall. If your new power was unlocked through your "Bond" with Laura during that scene then it would have made more sense if it happened when The Juggernaut starts walking towards you and she jumps in the way to protect you. Tho on this one option i would accept it being a "bond" thing since you are looking at her when it happens

During the unlocking of the Absorption power Rogue is not there and its just Null thinking the equivalent of "Damn, wish i was more powerful so i wouldn't be about to die"

And i think that if it truly had much to do with a bond it definitely would have happened when Jean almost melts you, since Null is basically walking into death for her.

Im not saying that its completely irrelevant or anything. The powers Null has at the moment are clearly similar to the girl's ones for a reason. But i personally really dislike "Power of friendship/mid-fight asspull" type shit in stories and would rather the game's story continues not doing that.
 
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I dunno, i dont really think we have had any "Power of friendship" moment to justify when Null "unlocked" new powers.

When he gained his Healing factor/Stamina like Laura one of the choices has that power unlock right after using your body to shield Rogue from falling debris as Laura shows up at that moment. I think on this option Null is thinking more about Rogue than Laura at that moment.

While the other option happens when you are looking at Laura who is standing in front of you after Juggy bitch slaps you away into a wall. If your new power was unlocked through your "Bond" with Laura during that scene then it would have made more sense if it happened when The Juggernaut starts walking towards you and she jumps in the way to protect you. Tho on this one option i would accept it being a "bond" thing since you are looking at her when it happens

During the unlocking of the Absorption power Rogue is not there and its just Null thinking the equivalent of "Damn, wish i was more powerful so i wouldn't be about to die"

And i think that if it truly had much to do with a bond it definitely would have happened when Jean almost melts you, since Null is basically walking into death for her.

Im not saying that its completely irrelevant or anything. The powers Null has at the moment are clearly similar to the girl's ones for a reason. But i personally really dislike "Power of friendship/mid-fight asspull" type shit in stories and would rather the game's story continues not doing that.
That's why I would prefer if the devs leaned more in the Null part of the powers and did some more cool stuff with them.
Even made a list of powers all related to the concept of Nullify, Erase and Drain.
But, if the devs turn him into a mini All For One, I will be happy too, they are the ones who know best.
It's just the name not matching the powers (I mean just matching one part of the powers) that irks me a little, but I am just an annoying little shit who may or may not be autistic, so don't take me too seriously.
 

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How could I fix this?

Code:
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
AttributeError: Can't get attribute 'Ororo_locations' on <renpy.python.StoreModule object at 0x0000000004511520>

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "renpy/common/_layout/screen_main_menu.rpym", line 28, in script
    python hide:
  File "renpy/ast.py", line 1187, in execute
    renpy.python.py_exec_bytecode(self.code.bytecode, self.hide, store=self.store)
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "renpy/python.py", line 1273, in py_exec_bytecode
    exec(bytecode, globals, locals)
    ~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "renpy/common/_layout/screen_main_menu.rpym", line 28, in <module>
    python hide:
  File "renpy/common/_layout/screen_main_menu.rpym", line 35, in _execute_python_hide
    ui.interact()
    ~~~~~~~~~~~^^
  File "renpy/ui.py", line 304, in interact
    rv = renpy.game.interface.interact(roll_forward=roll_forward, **kwargs)
         ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "renpy/display/core.py", line 2234, in interact
    repeat, rv = self.interact_core(
                 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~^
        preloads=preloads,
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    ...<4 lines>...
        **kwargs,
        ^^^^^^^^^
    )
    ^
  File "renpy/display/core.py", line 3348, in interact_core
    rv = root_widget.event(ev, x, y, 0)
         ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 1281, in event
    rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
         ~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 1281, in event
    rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
         ~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 1281, in event
    rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
         ~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "renpy/display/screen.py", line 805, in event
    rv = self.child.event(ev, x, y, st)
         ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 1281, in event
    rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
         ~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 1281, in event
    rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
         ~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 273, in event
    rv = d.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, st)
         ~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "renpy/display/behavior.py", line 1185, in event
    return handle_click(self.clicked)
           ~~~~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "renpy/display/behavior.py", line 1107, in handle_click
    rv = run(action)
         ~~~^^^^^^^^
  File "renpy/display/behavior.py", line 411, in run
    return action(*args, **kwargs)
           ~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "renpy/common/00action_file.rpy", line 499, in __call__
    renpy.load(fn)
    ~~~~~~~~~~^^^^
  File "renpy/loadsave.py", line 634, in load
    roots, log = loads(log_data)
                 ~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^
  File "renpy/compat/pickle.py", line 296, in loads
    return load(io.BytesIO(s))
           ~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "renpy/compat/pickle.py", line 288, in load
    return Unpickler(f, fix_imports=True, encoding="utf-8", errors="surrogateescape").load()
           ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~^^
  File "renpy/compat/pickle.py", line 280, in find_class
    return super().find_class(module, name)
           ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
AttributeError: Can't get attribute 'Ororo_locations' on <renpy.python.StoreModule object at 0x0000000004511520>

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