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Maybe. But then why didn't he absorb them sooner? Or I suppose activate them. And why not absorb Jean's as well? And how come each power manifested in the exact same way?
If he did absorb Jean's power, then why not activate? Because he didn't will it to? If he does absorb power as opposed to directing it to happen, then it seems that it still requires him to will it to manifest at some level.

Because if it was just adaption, then telekinesis and telepathy would have been handy against Juggy or the mob.
Perhaps because of the bond with the person, writers often use that thing to justify the activation as a mental unlocking process.
Due stress situations, the only problem is Null' skills, he can get more powers with the skill points, so maybe you're right about the evolution
 
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So...
It hasn't been mentioned in quite a while, so I'll just mention that it seems that Null's primary power isn't Nullification; it's directed evolution.
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So... Can we call Evo instead of Null? Seems a way more appropiate name considering the true nature of his powers.
 
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Perhaps because of the bond with the person, writers often use that thing to justify the activation as a mental unlocking process.
I dunno, i dont really think we have had any "Power of friendship" moment to justify when Null "unlocked" new powers.

When he gained his Healing factor/Stamina like Laura one of the choices has that power unlock right after using your body to shield Rogue from falling debris as Laura shows up at that moment. I think on this option Null is thinking more about Rogue than Laura at that moment.

While the other option happens when you are looking at Laura who is standing in front of you after Juggy bitch slaps you away into a wall. If your new power was unlocked through your "Bond" with Laura during that scene then it would have made more sense if it happened when The Juggernaut starts walking towards you and she jumps in the way to protect you. Tho on this one option i would accept it being a "bond" thing since you are looking at her when it happens

During the unlocking of the Absorption power Rogue is not there and its just Null thinking the equivalent of "Damn, wish i was more powerful so i wouldn't be about to die"

And i think that if it truly had much to do with a bond it definitely would have happened when Jean almost melts you, since Null is basically walking into death for her.

Im not saying that its completely irrelevant or anything. The powers Null has at the moment are clearly similar to the girl's ones for a reason. But i personally really dislike "Power of friendship/mid-fight asspull" type shit in stories and would rather the game's story continues not doing that.
 
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I dunno, i dont really think we have had any "Power of friendship" moment to justify when Null "unlocked" new powers.

When he gained his Healing factor/Stamina like Laura one of the choices has that power unlock right after using your body to shield Rogue from falling debris as Laura shows up at that moment. I think on this option Null is thinking more about Rogue than Laura at that moment.

While the other option happens when you are looking at Laura who is standing in front of you after Juggy bitch slaps you away into a wall. If your new power was unlocked through your "Bond" with Laura during that scene then it would have made more sense if it happened when The Juggernaut starts walking towards you and she jumps in the way to protect you. Tho on this one option i would accept it being a "bond" thing since you are looking at her when it happens

During the unlocking of the Absorption power Rogue is not there and its just Null thinking the equivalent of "Damn, wish i was more powerful so i wouldn't be about to die"

And i think that if it truly had much to do with a bond it definitely would have happened when Jean almost melts you, since Null is basically walking into death for her.

Im not saying that its completely irrelevant or anything. The powers Null has at the moment are clearly similar to the girl's ones for a reason. But i personally really dislike "Power of friendship/mid-fight asspull" type shit in stories and would rather the game's story continues not doing that.
That's why I would prefer if the devs leaned more in the Null part of the powers and did some more cool stuff with them.
Even made a list of powers all related to the concept of Nullify, Erase and Drain.
But, if the devs turn him into a mini All For One, I will be happy too, they are the ones who know best.
It's just the name not matching the powers (I mean just matching one part of the powers) that irks me a little, but I am just an annoying little shit who may or may not be autistic, so don't take me too seriously.
 

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How could I fix this?

Code:
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
AttributeError: Can't get attribute 'Ororo_locations' on <renpy.python.StoreModule object at 0x0000000004511520>

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "renpy/common/_layout/screen_main_menu.rpym", line 28, in script
    python hide:
  File "renpy/ast.py", line 1187, in execute
    renpy.python.py_exec_bytecode(self.code.bytecode, self.hide, store=self.store)
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "renpy/python.py", line 1273, in py_exec_bytecode
    exec(bytecode, globals, locals)
    ~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "renpy/common/_layout/screen_main_menu.rpym", line 28, in <module>
    python hide:
  File "renpy/common/_layout/screen_main_menu.rpym", line 35, in _execute_python_hide
    ui.interact()
    ~~~~~~~~~~~^^
  File "renpy/ui.py", line 304, in interact
    rv = renpy.game.interface.interact(roll_forward=roll_forward, **kwargs)
         ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "renpy/display/core.py", line 2234, in interact
    repeat, rv = self.interact_core(
                 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~^
        preloads=preloads,
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    ...<4 lines>...
        **kwargs,
        ^^^^^^^^^
    )
    ^
  File "renpy/display/core.py", line 3348, in interact_core
    rv = root_widget.event(ev, x, y, 0)
         ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 1281, in event
    rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
         ~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 1281, in event
    rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
         ~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 1281, in event
    rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
         ~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "renpy/display/screen.py", line 805, in event
    rv = self.child.event(ev, x, y, st)
         ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 1281, in event
    rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
         ~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 1281, in event
    rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
         ~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 273, in event
    rv = d.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, st)
         ~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "renpy/display/behavior.py", line 1185, in event
    return handle_click(self.clicked)
           ~~~~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "renpy/display/behavior.py", line 1107, in handle_click
    rv = run(action)
         ~~~^^^^^^^^
  File "renpy/display/behavior.py", line 411, in run
    return action(*args, **kwargs)
           ~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "renpy/common/00action_file.rpy", line 499, in __call__
    renpy.load(fn)
    ~~~~~~~~~~^^^^
  File "renpy/loadsave.py", line 634, in load
    roots, log = loads(log_data)
                 ~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^
  File "renpy/compat/pickle.py", line 296, in loads
    return load(io.BytesIO(s))
           ~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "renpy/compat/pickle.py", line 288, in load
    return Unpickler(f, fix_imports=True, encoding="utf-8", errors="surrogateescape").load()
           ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~^^
  File "renpy/compat/pickle.py", line 280, in find_class
    return super().find_class(module, name)
           ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
AttributeError: Can't get attribute 'Ororo_locations' on <renpy.python.StoreModule object at 0x0000000004511520>

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While I can't comment without risk of my family being murdered I will say one thing.

Neither Null nor anyone else at the mansion know 100% how his powers work or what his power definitively is as of the current point in plot progression. Which is the Chapter 1 finale and epilogue.
Boots on the speedy approach with the disclaimer whenever somebody speculates on Null. :LOL:
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I haven't gone all the way through Summer in a while, I'll have to do that. Probably on my point restrained file.

Speaking of that; it's pretty brutal but a fun change being throttled to capping at 350 in fall and 500 in Winter.
This is the beginning of Spring after the intro. 550 isn't the cap I don't think, that's just the quest requirement.
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For somebody who usually blitzes through all the points in the first few weeks in Fall, you can imagine my shock at hitting cap at 350 in Fall.:LOL:
 
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How could I fix this?
My code speak is pretty shoddy, but does that say it got caught up on the main menu loading Ororo? What did you do? Anyway, without you giving more info on when this happened, all I can say is download a fresh game copy and make new save if you are using one before the current update.
 
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Boots on the speedy approach with the disclaimer whenever somebody speculates on Null. :LOL:
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I haven't gone all the way through Summer in a while, I'll have to do that. Probably on my point restrained file.

Speaking of that; it's pretty brutal but a fun change being throttled to capping at 350 in fall and 500 in Winter.
This is the beginning of Spring after the intro. 550 isn't the cap I don't think, that's just the quest requirement.
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For somebody who usually blitzes through all the points in the first few weeks in Fall, you can imagine my shock at hitting cap at 350 in Fall.:LOL:
I've been paying very close attention yo nulls powers and having connected all the dots after listening to all the experts I can definitively say that I've got to the bottom of this mystery. Its not what you think, its not what any of you think and you won't believe it when you hear it. Its actually pretty shocking and brilliant IMHO. There is a clear understanding of the source material as well as the broader marvel universe at large as well as human psychology and nutrition. It plays with several tropes congruent with mutation and the concept of heroism in the modern world without being a modern tale that you may see in modern comics. Modern. Once again its shocking. I can't stress how shocking it is. If you've read winesburg, ohio, then you're ahead of the curve. The nature of the secret mystery that you haven't noticed about nulls power and "strange" lack of power is tied to stress and his potential to grow stronger through stress, like the geological pressur that creates a diamond, a diamond with emotions. Empathetic null is the hero of heroes and a diamond in the ruff, if you will. There are also, probably unintentional, parallels to the tain bo cuailnge in ways that I won't talk about here. A hint would be who is cu chulainns father? And why steal a cow? Or a spear that thirst for blood. The point of this, all of this is
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How could I fix this?

Code:
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
AttributeError: Can't get attribute 'Ororo_locations' on <renpy.python.StoreModule object at 0x0000000004511520>

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "renpy/common/_layout/screen_main_menu.rpym", line 28, in script
    python hide:
  File "renpy/ast.py", line 1187, in execute
    renpy.python.py_exec_bytecode(self.code.bytecode, self.hide, store=self.store)
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "renpy/python.py", line 1273, in py_exec_bytecode
    exec(bytecode, globals, locals)
    ~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "renpy/common/_layout/screen_main_menu.rpym", line 28, in <module>
    python hide:
  File "renpy/common/_layout/screen_main_menu.rpym", line 35, in _execute_python_hide
    ui.interact()
    ~~~~~~~~~~~^^
  File "renpy/ui.py", line 304, in interact
    rv = renpy.game.interface.interact(roll_forward=roll_forward, **kwargs)
         ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "renpy/display/core.py", line 2234, in interact
    repeat, rv = self.interact_core(
                 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~^
        preloads=preloads,
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    ...<4 lines>...
        **kwargs,
        ^^^^^^^^^
    )
    ^
  File "renpy/display/core.py", line 3348, in interact_core
    rv = root_widget.event(ev, x, y, 0)
         ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 1281, in event
    rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
         ~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 1281, in event
    rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
         ~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 1281, in event
    rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
         ~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "renpy/display/screen.py", line 805, in event
    rv = self.child.event(ev, x, y, st)
         ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 1281, in event
    rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
         ~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 1281, in event
    rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
         ~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 273, in event
    rv = d.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, st)
         ~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "renpy/display/behavior.py", line 1185, in event
    return handle_click(self.clicked)
           ~~~~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "renpy/display/behavior.py", line 1107, in handle_click
    rv = run(action)
         ~~~^^^^^^^^
  File "renpy/display/behavior.py", line 411, in run
    return action(*args, **kwargs)
           ~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "renpy/common/00action_file.rpy", line 499, in __call__
    renpy.load(fn)
    ~~~~~~~~~~^^^^
  File "renpy/loadsave.py", line 634, in load
    roots, log = loads(log_data)
                 ~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^
  File "renpy/compat/pickle.py", line 296, in loads
    return load(io.BytesIO(s))
           ~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "renpy/compat/pickle.py", line 288, in load
    return Unpickler(f, fix_imports=True, encoding="utf-8", errors="surrogateescape").load()
           ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~^^
  File "renpy/compat/pickle.py", line 280, in find_class
    return super().find_class(module, name)
           ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
AttributeError: Can't get attribute 'Ororo_locations' on <renpy.python.StoreModule object at 0x0000000004511520>

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You're trying to use an older save (pre v0.8c) on v0.8c. Older saves are incompatible with this version.
 
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I've been paying very close attention yo nulls powers and having connected all the dots after listening to all the experts I can definitively say that I've got to the bottom of this mystery. Its not what you think, its not what any of you think and you won't believe it when you hear it. Its actually pretty shocking and brilliant IMHO. There is a clear understanding of the source material as well as the broader marvel universe at large as well as human psychology and nutrition. It plays with several tropes congruent with mutation and the concept of heroism in the modern world without being a modern tale that you may see in modern comics. Modern. Once again its shocking. I can't stress how shocking it is. If you've read winesburg, ohio, then you're ahead of the curve. The nature of the secret mystery that you haven't noticed about nulls power and "strange" lack of power is tied to stress and his potential to grow stronger through stress, like the geological pressur that creates a diamond, a diamond with emotions. Empathetic null is the hero of heroes and a diamond in the ruff, if you will. There are also, probably unintentional, parallels to the tain bo cuailnge in ways that I won't talk about here. A hint would be who is cu chulainns father? And why steal a cow? Or a spear that thirst for blood. The point of this, all of this is
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I can't believe I read all of this
 
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I've been paying very close attention yo nulls powers and having connected all the dots after listening to all the experts I can definitively say that I've got to the bottom of this mystery. Its not what you think, its not what any of you think and you won't believe it when you hear it. Its actually pretty shocking and brilliant IMHO. There is a clear understanding of the source material as well as the broader marvel universe at large as well as human psychology and nutrition. It plays with several tropes congruent with mutation and the concept of heroism in the modern world without being a modern tale that you may see in modern comics. Modern. Once again its shocking. I can't stress how shocking it is. If you've read winesburg, ohio, then you're ahead of the curve. The nature of the secret mystery that you haven't noticed about nulls power and "strange" lack of power is tied to stress and his potential to grow stronger through stress, like the geological pressur that creates a diamond, a diamond with emotions. Empathetic null is the hero of heroes and a diamond in the ruff, if you will. There are also, probably unintentional, parallels to the tain bo cuailnge in ways that I won't talk about here. A hint would be who is cu chulainns father? And why steal a cow? Or a spear that thirst for blood. The point of this, all of this is
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Man I got a migraine from trying to read that.
 

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RonChon:been working on a companion app for the game that allows you to interact with the character models and background art in a true sandbox. it's helpful for me testing out how animations will look rendered in-game, and it means that community members can preview character art before it's actually incorporated into the game properly

for example, I've started rigging up Rogue's supine paizuri pose with a bunch of the new layer features coming in 0.9a, and those of you with beta access can go ahead and download the current beta build of the viewer app and mess around with the new customization options!

I'll be releasing new models to preview in the viewer app as I rig them up!
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