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This seems like a very strange type of drama.
People had a pretty understandable complaint; they chose in game that their character didn't want that type of content, but the game ignored it and gave it to them anyway.
Yes, it may happen if you choose to avoid sharing, but why playing a game where the sharing tag is present even if the game lets you choose later to not do it because you don't have anything else to do.
It's not like in a game with multiple actors where you can choose your LI and what you do with them.

Ok i get it that it was just the beginning of the game and people thaught that in a later update you will have more options with other characters. But anyway, as the game is today playing it without sharing doesn't make much sense.
 

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The end of the last update is clearly leading to some bdsm female domination stuff, i'm already drooling thinking about this yummy!!!:love:
I hope it will be dark and painfull for the MC, it seems there will be some trial in a middleage way, let's hope the dev will not be a sissy and go full trottle into kinky stuff.:ROFLMAO:
Sorry for the facepalm but my cringe meter fucking dies any time i read shit like that :HideThePain:
 

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Genuine question: Why does the ntr tag keep getting added then instantly removed from games? Am I the only one who notices when that happens?
 

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The previous game was a BB variation with aunt and cousins instead of mother and sisters ... The new game might be a BB variation with cult mother and cult sisters, so no incest trouble with patreon ... nevertheless the mc will likely try to corrupt and fuck all the girls ...
The prologue then is just a small story leading to the patreon save setup with the cult ...
 

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According to the dialogues Tommy and Abigail are a couple since many years. The threesome thing is something new and they limit it to the mc ... Tommy has fucked Abigail every day since they started on the trek, probably even several times per day/night for more than a week. I don't see how Tommy turns into a cuck by letting the mc fuck Abigail a few times to get rid of his blue balls. It is hinted that they kind of take turns : the mc can fuck Abigail during day and Tommy fucks her day and night, but most of the scenes where Tommy fucks Abigail are not shown. By sharing Abigail with the mc Tommy does not get less sex with Abigail but Abigail gets more sex ... she turns out to be kind of part time nymphomaniac ...


Note to players who dislike the spanking scenes :
As indicated in the dialog the player choice affects the type of sex scenes : Choose spanking as fetish and there are lots of spanking scenes, choose anal and there are less spanking scenes and more anal. Choose the 3rd option "normal" and you get more variations with vaginal sex.
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Do you know why Tommy is a cuck? Because he has a woman, and he is okay with another man sticking his penis inside of her. You could argue, "Nah dude that just makes him a swinger". Swingers are also cucks. You could say "Well maybe it's an open relationship" yea those guys are cucks too. Any man who has a woman and is okay with that woman getting drilled by some other dude is a cuck.

In order for a man to be a cuck the following 3 statements must be True:
Does he have a woman? True
Does this other woman get dick from another man? True
Is this man okay with this? True

If True, True, and True then it is a cuck.

If you have no girlfriend or wife you are not a cuck. You need one of those to be cucked. If there is some girl you have a crush on but she fucks some other dude not a cuck. She is not your woman.

Her getting dick from another dude does not make you a cuck by itself. If you are not okay with it then you are not a cuck.

If she cheated on you, and you took her back after a fight you are a reluctant cuck.

The act of being okay with your woman getting dick from another man is what makes you into a cuck.
 

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Hi,



I have been checking the comments, and the number of people who don’t want to see a threesome at all costs surprised me.

I didn’t know it was such a big thing for many. I’ll patch the game to make it avoidable. For those who can’t stand being with someone else's wife while the husband is around, sorry guys, I can’t do anything for that during the prologue. For what comes next... well, that’s another story.



There are some comments about the choices not resulting in actual result. It is true, most of the time it changes the dialogues. But all the choices about sexual content preferences have a direct impact on what you’ll see and what you won’t see.



I also noted some comments about the GUI. I’ll see what I can do, probably an on/off switch to disable the ‘big choice menu’ to start with.



Thanks to everyone who spent some time writing a constructive feedback.
It's not threesome that people dislike. Every straight guy on the block would LOVE to have two hot chicks slobbering on his knob at the same time. It is the presence of a 2nd man in the threesomes that many find off-putting.

I think a big part of why MMF threesomes are hated by many guys is two fold:

1 = It feels gay. The other guy asking "Hey man do you mind if I watch you as you fuck my woman?" is like... Ugg... Comes off as very gay to me. Why does this dude want to be staring at my dick?

2 = Major cuck / NTR vibes: I know it's not explicitly set out to be a "cuck" situation and it is more geared towards a "Sharing" situation, but that Tommy dude is cuck all the way.

For a sex scene to be fully satisfying one must be attracted to all other parties. When one of them is a guy it feels like... "Oh... I gotta put up with this dude being there so I can fuck the hot chick?"

It would also be different if it were say a female protagonist as well, then she can get gangbanged by several guys at once, and nobody gonna really complain as much about that. A female protagonist can get away with that, but not a male protagonist.

I think one of the big parts of it that were upsetting to a lot of people is that Abigail is with another dude, and not our main protagonist. It's like it would be great if we were Tommy, and the MC just disappeared and we were not a cuck. That could be an awesome game. She is the main chick in all of the preview renders, and the cover photo. So it's like "This is our girl", but no... No no no... That is Tommy's girl... We are not Tommy, and Tommy is a cuck... Do we get to spank her and get a BJ, and fuck her in the ass, creampie her, and all that stuff... Oh yea... WAY more than expected you guys went above and beyond on the sex stuff for a first release. Bravo to that.

Just the way my mind works is I'm plotting ways to figure out... "How can I get Tommy eaten by a Bear?" and "Would she hear him screaming if I bashed his head with a rock"? I don't like Tommy one bit, and I think that chick is too good for him, fuck that guy I want his woman and I want him dead.

If there is a path where we can kill Tommy off, and just take his woman... Yea, man I'd love this game. Tommy being alive ruins the game.
 

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There sure are many egotistical people here. Same people who aggrevates by insulting people who says in other threads "I don't like the planned fetish, but good luck anyway dev.". "Anti-NTR people are the worse, they make threads unbearable" meanwhile said user bashed those who wished good luck for the dev and make threads into warzone. Some of the said users also asslicks their favorite devs so hard that you wonder why they are not diplomatic with other users, with all the flowery words they say to the devs.

IRL scenario:
Potential customer browse a shop
Potential customer: "Hmmm, I don't like what you guys offer but good luck anyway"
Dev: "Thanks"
Potential customer is about to leave when someone stands up.
A Karen customer: "OMG!!! Did you just waste everyone's time?"
Karen: "Fuck you pathetic loser"
Arguments ensue and conflict embroils the shop.

Also people have a legit complaint about choices, which the dev has acknowledged and making changes. So stop being a bitch and stop fueling conflict here.

Also TheGary's previous game is in a way a harem VN, its understandable this thread would get certain reactions.
 
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Indeed but that's still Tommy sharing his wife.

If sharing is then optional he won't be sharing her so MC won't be fucking her.
Fine?

I'd rather not have a sex scene than a FMM scene or having a chick 'shared' with me as a player. There was a game that did something similar awhile back and frankly I was fine with having the option there too.
 

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The end of the last update is clearly leading to some bdsm female domination stuff, i'm already drooling thinking about this yummy!!!:love:
I hope it will be dark and painfull for the MC, it seems there will be some trial in a middleage way, let's hope the dev will not be a sissy and go full trottle into kinky stuff.:ROFLMAO:
The dev stated earlier to his patrons that there will be no femdom in the game, or very little. Less than in CMA. Don't raise your hopes too high.
 

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The dev stated earlier to his patrons that there will be no femdom in the game, or very little. Less than in CMA. Don't raise your hopes too high.
Its not that hopeless, here are the devs exact words

And for last, Femdom! It has been a recurring subject in CmA so you might want to know where do I stand on this matter for The Patriarch.

With “The Patriarch” as the game name, you know Susan will not be around to keep you in line but it doesn’t mean that there is no possibility for a bit of femdom content.

You know I enjoy adding some kind of femdom event from time to time. In The Patriarch, you’ll be the one deciding if you want to take that road or not but it won’t be before some time.

A little clarification about femdom, I’m talking about F/M sexual domination. Because of the nature of the game, you’ll first have to earn the “Patriarch” title. You’re not sheltered from women’s authority! ;)
So theres a good chance theres gonna be a bit of it early on
 
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Hola desde España. Inicio el juego pero se bloquea.
Subo el reporter a ver si alguien me puede indicar el motivo
It seems there is a problem with your renpy version, no other reported bug of this kind
 

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The dev stated earlier to his patrons that there will be no femdom in the game, or very little. Less than in CMA. Don't raise your hopes too high.
Based on BB and CMA :
I suppose that in the cult environment there will be rules and violating the rules will probably earn a punishment / spanking as in BB and CMA. It's likely that at some point the mc will takeover the punishments and be the one to spank the girls, but there will probably also situations where mc has to break some rules and get punished. If the game turns into a sandbox, then it probably will be up to the player if and how often the mc violates rules.
 
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Just the way my mind works is I'm plotting ways to figure out... "How can I get Tommy eaten by a Bear?" and "Would she hear him screaming if I bashed his head with a rock"? I don't like Tommy one bit, and I think that chick is too good for him, fuck that guy I want his woman and I want him dead.

If there is a path where we can kill Tommy off, and just take his woman... Yea, man I'd love this game. Tommy being alive ruins the game.
Tommy is mc's (best) friend who invited him on the trek to help mc ... otherwise Tommy and Abigail probably would have done the trekking alone as in previous years.

A couple of friends invited you on a fortnight's trek to put you back on your feet.
They noticed how hard your breakup affected you and they decided to share their vacation with you.
Based on the open, relaxed and kinky atmosphere from previous games I doubt that many other players want the mc to kill his best friend just to have sex with Abigail alone if in current situation the mc can have as much sex with her as he wants. There are also options to ask for privacy.

However this is a ren'py game, so you can easily adjust and rewrite your own version of the game. There are enough renders and animations for a "short story" type of game.

Do you know why Tommy is a cuck? Because he has a woman, and he is okay with another man sticking his penis inside of her. You could argue, "Nah dude that just makes him a swinger". Swingers are also cucks. You could say "Well maybe it's an open relationship" yea those guys are cucks too. Any man who has a woman and is okay with that woman getting drilled by some other dude is a cuck.

In order for a man to be a cuck the following 3 statements must be True:
Does he have a woman? True
Does this other woman get dick from another man? True
Is this man okay with this? True

If True, True, and True then it is a cuck.

If you have no girlfriend or wife you are not a cuck. You need one of those to be cucked. If there is some girl you have a crush on but she fucks some other dude not a cuck. She is not your woman.

Her getting dick from another dude does not make you a cuck by itself. If you are not okay with it then you are not a cuck.

If she cheated on you, and you took her back after a fight you are a reluctant cuck.

The act of being okay with your woman getting dick from another man is what makes you into a cuck.
Would it improve the situation if Tommy and Abigail were just "Friends with Benefits"?
 
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0. The renders look pretty cool. Forest atmosphere is well done.
Some renders of spanked bottoms have a really high level of detail and high quality ("shade of red").

There are a lot of animations if you play all paths, however quality of animations varies, similar as in CMA.
E.g. some of the spanking animations seem to have no impact and look more like a robotic gymnastics.

Improving animations to a higher level (e.g. like animations in "being a dik") might be a worthwile target. On the other side there are also successful games like BB/Glamour which I think do not use any animations. A interesting story/environment with interesting characters and high quality renders is sufficient.

1. The ingame discussions with Tommy and Abigail about anal sex and spanking can be a little bit weird and unclear, depending on chosen path (anal, spanking, neutral) :

Anal sex can include :
- the mc fucking girls in the ass (dominant)
- the mc getting pegged by girls (submissive)
- the mc having anal sex with men (gay, bi)

Likewise spanking can include :
- the mc spanking girls (dominant)
- the mc getting spanked (submissive)
- ...

The player does not know what kind of kinky stuff Tommy and Abigail usually do when they are alone, so the dialogs could have some more lines where mc defines his limits in detail maybe including some teasing/jokes from the others. (Abigail : so you like anal? too bad I forgot my strapon at home ... )

2. The major choice : anal, spanking or neutral splits the prologue in 3 different paths with respective different kind and order of sexual events. This leads to a lot of duplicated code. Instead of one big choice there could be instead more small choices for every sexual encounter letting the player decide :
- spank her or let the situation pass
- (optional) spank her as foreplay
- have vaginal and/or anal sex or bj
This would allow players to choose scenes based on current player mood instead of being railed on a spanking or anal path and avoid players being overwhelmed and exhausted by a certain fetish.
The game could still track the player decisions and then later give a summary dialog, similar to current summary where Abigail counts how often she was spanked and fucked in the ass, etc.

3. In many sex scenes it is unclear if Abigail has none, one or more orgasms and how the player could achive this. As a gentleman the mc should to some part focus on her orgasms, otherwise the sex may become too egoistic.
Some of the scenes have one bar for mc's arousal while others have two for mc and Abigail.
If mc and Tommy decide to play kind of edging game, the mc can start arousing Abigail and Tommy later will finish her.
The minigame should not be to complicated. The default actions are slow, fast and stop.
In some events there is a 4th option but if activated this is usually gone before it can be selected.

4. Water and Hygiene
On a hike every person usually uses one or more liters (= kilo) of water per day, some for drinking, cooking meals and some for hygiene. Since the weight a person can carry is limited and water is heavy, trecking routes usually lead from cabin / water supply to cabin / water supply. Taking a shower or a bath requires a lot of water.
It would add to the realism if there would be at least a scene where they resupply with water and wash themselves, e.g. with water from a lake, river or creek. (If the creeks are small they might not be on the map, so no conflict with the getting lost scenario.) Otherwise without water for basic hygiene all the cream pies, etc may lead to a somewhat disgusting scenario where sexual acts are performed amid the remnants of past sexual acts (old cum from Tommy and mc).
(On a porn set this is usually no problem since they have showers near the set.)
A way to avoid this situation would be using more condoms (waste) or Abigail doing more blowjobs, keeping the dicks of the guys clean and most importantly avoid cream pies since most players probably don't want to do a cunni if there is still some old cum around. (BJ = More proteins for the girl ...)

5. No backpack for Abigail?
On a trek without cabins etc. where you have to carry all by yourself including water for some days, the girls usually carry part of the weight, too. So a medium backpack for Abigail with mostly light stuff (clothing, etc) with a weight of 10-15 kilo would be realistic, otherwise the men would have to carry this weight on top of the weight of their own stuff. Unless you are a born Sherpa or very good in training, trecking with more than 20-25 kilo can be very exhausting.

6. Campfire Dialog on day 1
The images and the dialog are not always synchronized. Often a person speaks but in the shown image this person is silent and another person speaks.
A solution might be a neutral background image where all 3 are talking. (Maybe also a type of face icon/small image for current speaker popping up.)

7. Too many (meaningless) choices?
Some of the player choices matter (e.g. peek on them or jerk off in tent to see different images) while others seem to have no effect at all in the game. The big black choice window interrupts the game flow every time there is a choice, so I would reduce the number of meaningless choices.
 
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Tommy is mc's (best) friend who invited him on the trek to help mc ... otherwise Tommy and Abigail probably would have done the trekking alone as in previous years.



Based on the open, relaxed and kinky atmosphere from previous games I doubt that many other players want the mc to kill his best friend just to have sex with Abigail alone if in current situation the mc can have as much sex with her as he wants. There are also options to ask for privacy.

However this is a ren'py game, so you can easily adjust and rewrite your own version of the game. There are enough renders and animations for a "short story" type of game.



Would it improve the situation if Tommy and Abigail were just "Friends with Benefits"?
Yea, they say it is MC's best friend. A game where that trek was done alone with Tommy & Abagail and we play as Tommy, and don't cuck her out... That would have been for choice.

A lot of folks would most certainly complain if we smash Tommy's head with a rock. The Dev could write it so he has cancer or something and is dying instead, and Tommy wants us to take care of his girl from the great beyond. Don't gotta get our hands bloody, and Tommy's dying wish for us to have his woman... I mean how can we turn our best buddy down?

True enough on my ability to rewrite things.

Tommy and Abagail being FWB instead of dating. Hmmm... Doesn't really resolve that whole Tommy sticking his dick in her situation. That's the problem. Tommy being her "pervert brother" might help. A lot of people may go, "Well, I guess the incest part balances out the cuck part... I guess it's okay for me to get a boner and not hate myself." They could beg MC to give them nonmutant offspring, and a lot of folks be happy to oblige.... That added layer of filthy taboo freakiness might just be enough to make the cuck part work, but honestly probably better if Tommy just gets crushed by a falling meteorite.
 

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Yea, they say it is MC's best friend. A game where that trek was done alone with Tommy & Abagail and we play as Tommy, and don't cuck her out... That would have been for choice.

A lot of folks would most certainly complain if we smash Tommy's head with a rock. The Dev could write it so he has cancer or something and is dying instead, and Tommy wants us to take care of his girl from the great beyond. Don't gotta get our hands bloody, and Tommy's dying wish for us to have his woman... I mean how can we turn our best buddy down?

True enough on my ability to rewrite things.

Tommy and Abagail being FWB instead of dating. Hmmm... Doesn't really resolve that whole Tommy sticking his dick in her situation. That's the problem. Tommy being her "pervert brother" might help. A lot of people may go, "Well, I guess the incest part balances out the cuck part... I guess it's okay for me to get a boner and not hate myself." They could beg MC to give them nonmutant offspring, and a lot of folks be happy to oblige.... That added layer of filthy taboo freakiness might just be enough to make the cuck part work, but honestly probably better if Tommy just gets crushed by a falling meteorite.
I am very sorry that a Tommy has hurt you so badly, that you want this Tommy dead. But fear not, if you want the real Tommy dead, I know a guy who knows a guy who can help you hide a body. For free*


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