RPGM The Proteus Effect [v10.3] [Proxxie]

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Boyim

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That much is certain, even if this relative superiority to his contemporary h-dev slackers can't really be seen as admirable due to the FULL YEAR WAIT TIME.
 
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Boyim

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New update post. The big quest that was "fully planned, not completed" on April 29th is now officially done after being 'almost finished' every single post since then. He officially has 3 quests left.

For context on April 29th the status report was:
4 quests completed
2 nearly completed
1 Fully planned, not yet completed (Big ned danger quest)
3 neither planned not completed.

Now there are officially just 3 left, but no record of how done they are unfortunately.

I know you are wondering, "How did half a big quest and 1/4 of two small quests take two and a half months?"

Good question. According to the dev, because the Ned danger quest involved going back to some older areas of the game, that justified doing a fresh full playthrough to refresh his memory of the area. Furthermore, this playthrough was a good opportunity to bugfix and scrutinize the writing of the game in its entirety up until this point. A thorough list of notes has been taken on what needs doing, but for now Proxxie has 'limited' himself to just changing some excessive uses of exclamation points and also rehashing the dragon cookie questline.

But don't worry, this list of notes has now been compiled and stored away as the 'early game revamp project' and which will be woven into patch .10 and .11.

In other news, a new version of RPGmaker was released, and he's thinking of maybe trying to transfer the game over at a much later date, .11 at the earliest though.

So counting the two side projects (Custom UI and Combat revamp) he mentioned before, we have four fully loaded distraction tunnels set up for the next two patches and we haven't even gotten this update yet.

Not to mention what distractions unworthy of the name 'project' he might think up. I mean despite being 11 months in he did a full 100% playthrough where he scrutinized every inch of the games' writing, design, and mechanics and took notes on all possible improvements just because a quest, "Takes Alex somewhere he hasn't been in awhile." and he wanted a "fresh sense" of the area again.

I swear its one step forward and two steps back with this man. The second I think he has gained self awareness and realized what he's been doing, the effect it has had on his workflow, and how necessary it is to stop it, he burns what was in all likelihood a full month not actually working on this patch for the most paper thin reason imaginable, despite the fact that we are already nipple deep in a swamp made by exactly this type of rationalization.

How can he have just enough sense to pump the breaks a tad and not realize he's simultaneously flooring it? Yes, doing an early game revamp at this exact moment would be 'too much', y'know what else would be? A full playthrough of the game noting all possible changes while polishing all the writing and redoing an old quest chain.

*Edit: Happy anniversary everyone!
 
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Boyim

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New news post. A quest was pushed into next release to leave time to make the main story progression quest for this update a bit bigger. Here is the current to do list in its given bullet form.
  • Finish current quest
  • Create final quest
  • Tie up loose ends (conversations, mapping, a couple more renders, and a bunch of miscellaneous tasks)
  • Playtest and revise
Once he starts playtesting, a release date will be announced. Remember that the last 'big' quest took 2 months-ish to complete although it was coupled with 2 'very nearly done' quests and he got distracted again. So who knows.

I lack the energy and actual supplied content from the creator to explode into another rant, however fun that might be. But I'm glad something gave vis a vis this update coming out sooner. Right now my hope is that this 'borrowed time' the dev gave himself won't feed into his distraction prone psyche like the heroin-addict he is, and give him subconscious permission to burn a month doing random 'not finishing this update' related things again.

Fingers crossed.

PS. Another new distraction project was discovered (we're up to five), and that's revamping the game's mapping, .11 at the earliest though I promise ;D.
 
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slitherhence

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God damn. Came to this thread to check in on one of my favorite games and suddenly I'm drowning in a sea of whine. Someone let me know when Proxxie updates or Boyim finds the unsubscribe button.
 
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Boyim

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God damn. Came to this thread to check in on one of my favorite games and suddenly I'm drowning in a sea of whine. Someone let me know when Proxxie updates or Boyim finds the unsubscribe button.
Well, I'm subscribed because I'm a fan of his game and want to know what's going on. If you actually read the thread you would have noticed that we covered those particular assessments before. Both "All complaints about this rpgmaker game update's longer than full year wait time are unfounded." and "Everybody who loves this game but has a problem with the dev's release schedule should just full unsub and never engage with it again."

Neither of which make sense, surprise surprise.
This especially considering the dev's own continued admittance of fault on exactly the grounds put forward in this thread.

Regardless, as a dedicated scout I will indeed keep you posted as to when the update is out in addition to what is going on in development.

If you'd like to receive information without my running commentary (how dare you) I would suggest subbing to Proxxie's Patreon.
 
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Well, I'm subscribed because I'm a fan of his game and want to know what's going on. If you actually read the thread you would have noticed that we covered those particular assessments before. Both "All complaints about this rpgmaker game update's longer than full year wait time are unfounded." and "Everybody who loves this game but has a problem with the dev's release schedule should just full unsub and never engage with it again."

Neither of which make sense, surprise surprise.
This especially considering the dev's own continued admittance of fault on exactly the grounds put forward in this thread.

Regardless, as a dedicated scout I will indeed keep you posted as to when the update is out in addition to what is going on in development.

If you'd like to receive information without my running commentary (how dare you) I would suggest subbing to Proxxie's Patreon.
You've whined publicly and endlessly and yet Proxxie has made no changes to the way he does things. Continuing to whine anyway implies you think he is continuing to wrong you... but the only way that makes sense is if it was costing you something somehow without you having the option or the knowledge to prevent it. Yet, the only thing his sluggishness is costing you is money... and you have the option to change that... and by your own admission he's not hiding the problem from you... but you remain subscribed and continue to whine pointlessly. Ergo, you are your own problem and really should stop whining when you have the power to fix the problem. What about that "[doesn't] make sense" to you?

Thank you for this constructive post wherein you simultaneously whine over another guy whining, while complaining about whining.
We really needed this.
Says the person whining about someone whining about someone whining. Which means you've managed to turn the act of calling someone a hypocrite into an act of hypocrisy. ::slow clap:: Bravo.
 
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Boyim

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You've whined publicly and endlessly and yet Proxxie has made no changes to the way he does things. Continuing to whine anyway implies you think he is continuing to wrong you... but the only way that makes sense is if it was costing you something somehow without you having the option or the knowledge to prevent it. Yet, the only thing his sluggishness is costing you is money...
Proxxie has directly stated he wanted to make exactly the changes to his workflow that we have suggested for exactly the reasons we have suggested. When he falls short of his own ideals and promises for how he ought to behave, I point that out, this in addition to giving updates on what he is saying about the game. As long as he continues to break his own word and falls short of what he himself says that he owes his fanbase (how many times must I reiterate this before you acknowledge it instead of talking around it and repeating yourself?) I will continue to make note of those issues. I pray for the day that there is something else to speak of.

Further, I don't voice these complaints simply because of a personal sense of being wronged, although that much in and of itself would be justified, but because of an impersonal recognition of wrongdoing on behalf of fans of this game. Moreover, the wrong doesn't exist merely at the level of money, but also at the level of trust and energy. Everyone who really loves this game gets left with fingers crossed and held breath only to be let down again and again by the same bad habits and false promises. Every ounce of fruitless and frustrated attention brought to the game by the exact faults Proxxie is openly trying to solve is a new betrayal of those who took it on faith that he could be aware of his habits and do better. I'm glad he is trying, I'm glad he has begun to see what he was doing as a problem, but as this is the only place to openly speak about this game, this is the place where he can and should be held to account. I do this in in good faith for two reasons; first in the likely misguided hope that some of the things said by us here trickle to him or those around him and help him to do better, and secondly to give information about the game's progress to those no longer willing to support him directly.

If you think what you are doing is "freeing an innocent man's game's forum from a big complaining meanie and bringing it back to the jubilant discussion it should be" you are sorely mistaken.

You are pointlessly interrupting the only new conversation there is to be held about this game with the same vapid """arguments""" that were wrong eight months ago. Except now everyone in the room is jaded beyond belief.

If you would like to continue metacomplaining, please send me a PM instead of junking up the thread.
 

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Says the person whining about someone whining about someone whining. Which means you've managed to turn the act of calling someone a hypocrite into an act of hypocrisy. ::slow clap:: Bravo.
What you're typing here makes no sense. How am i a hypocrite? YOU go into this thread, and instead of reading the updates that Boyim has posted, and then moving on, or contributing to the discussion of this game, you just whine over the only guy keeping this thread alive at this point, while dragging needless petty drama in here. I'm fine with you and everyone else whining in this thread (hey, people need some catharsis every now and then) But complaining about someone else whining while whining yourself is just plain hypocrisy and makes you look rather silly. But please, explain to me how i'm being a hypocrite?
 
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