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RedTomato

Newbie
Jul 17, 2020
45
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From my Patreon post about the delays.
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All of you don't really need to twist that knife deeper without even seeing what I had to say for myself.

Yes, I know, it's been 2 years. No, it wasn't because of "patron drop-off", it was my shitty work ethic. My level of donations was stagnant for a half of year and if you think I just want some barebone income - well, I had it. Yes, there is no excuse for that amount of time spend on this update and I know it well. No, making ~150 images per 2-3 weeks is just impossible with my working pipeline. Slow work process - better results. Yes, it's still isn't worth 2 years and I know it. And I shouldn't care least I want to get depressed looking at all of this.

We will see what the future holds for the game. I can't bring anything to the table that will make you trust me. But I'm still positive. You can pirate it all you want - I never cared, so why should you.
Please don't take this as an attack, but the low support comes from your history of poor work ethic, a previously abandoned game and missed promises. None of those things are encouraging to someone who enjoys your work and is thinking of supporting you.

There are many games/vn's on here making far more money despite being nowhere near as good because the developers release content regularly (not necessarily monthly) and are transparent with their paying supporters. It's also really rare for someone to get any decent level of support in their first year.

The reason people are 'twisting the knife' is largely out of frustration, it's clear that they enjoy your work. Ultimately you have to decide if you want to make a living out of this, but if you do (and I hope you do), you have to be prepared to earn people's trust back by putting in the work.
 

Avaron1974

Resident Lesbian
Aug 22, 2018
25,902
89,357
"Like I said, I won't say if it's a scam or not but" .
Mild as ever.
You're thinking and knowing for sure : it's a scam!
Oh I 100% think it is.

I may not like throwing around accusations without all the facts but based on the amount of content, the devs track record and time between updates I can't think anything but scam.

We know they have talent so there really is no excuse for releasing 130 render update after around 2 years other than to milk a bit more money.

It's frustrating to see a dev that can do good work only release milking content. This game should be huge but it never will be because of the developer. They are holding themselves back.
 

RHFlash

Active Member
Apr 4, 2018
698
945
No, making ~150 images per 2-3 weeks is just impossible with my working pipeline.
You are quite literally admitting that your speed of work is so slow that even if you actually worked as hard as you could, you would be able to make less than 150 images in 2-3 weeks. I’m going to say this to you on the slim chance that you are actually trying to turn this around: at that rate you are never going anywhere with this game. I’m going to tell you exactly what you need to do to unsink this ship. MAKE AND USE CHARACTER SPRITES. You make them once and then you can spend your time writing content into your game, and making renders for the sex scenes. You already have the locations done, you have the characters modeled; this way you can actually progress your game provided you put the effort in. I don’t need to see a fully rendered image of Nina sitting on the couch talking to the main character. I don’t care if there were some in the beginning of the game and now there aren’t. Nobody is going to give a fuck if they can’t see the render of Nina sitting on the couch talking to the MC if they are seeing 5x the written content and 5x the sex scenes. From there it’s a slow road of regaining trust from your shitty work ethic by reasonably frequent updates and very frequent communication.
 

Sombramain22

Member
Jul 10, 2021
161
193
From my Patreon post about the delays.
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All of you don't really need to twist that knife deeper without even seeing what I had to say for myself.

Yes, I know, it's been 2 years. No, it wasn't because of "patron drop-off", it was my shitty work ethic. My level of donations was stagnant for a half of year and if you think I just want some barebone income - well, I had it. Yes, there is no excuse for that amount of time spend on this update and I know it well. No, making ~150 images per 2-3 weeks is just impossible with my working pipeline. Slow work process - better results. Yes, it's still isn't worth 2 years and I know it. And I shouldn't care least I want to get depressed looking at all of this.

We will see what the future holds for the game. I can't bring anything to the table that will make you trust me. But I'm still positive. You can pirate it all you want - I never cared, so why should you.
2 years lol you could have Finish the game i know covid and the war in ukina happen fuck russia for that one and your donations droped of because you were super slow the first game you made died which you still had i think 1000 patrons at the time then you made this game and you delayed updates for years so and it took you 2 years to make 150 images heavy fire puts animations at and as more then enough content in her game that will last a while and she working by her self I would not give you a dime of my money why would I you kllled holy slaves to work on this then it took you 2 years to update 150 pics lol
 

SwearyMary

Member
Dec 8, 2020
116
298
Mia's calls are on rails, you will not miss them. Only the second one is missable but it's optional.
Sorry about the sandbox part, I like it and I will try to fill it with content going forward. Hope it will be worth people time.
I think that the "grind" part is not that bad here, honestly. You can easily max out everything possible in the update by the 7th day. And even after game over you can still continue playing if you so wish.
I like the sandbox element, but it is a bit too grindy and obscure how to do things.

With all your troubles and work ethics issues, perhaps consider partnering with someone who has some project management or game development experience? The game has potential but is being held back.
 

ForeverLosing

Member
Mar 26, 2022
260
1,170
I like the sandbox element, but it is a bit too grindy and obscure how to do things.

With all your troubles and work ethics issues, perhaps consider partnering with someone who has some project management or game development experience? The game has potential but is being held back.
Worse than that, I just clicked my way through that initial "grind" and was met with a black screen of text saying that the reward for said grind isn't in this version of the game yet. It's a progression mirage.

EDIT: I don't want to be entirely negative if the dev does read this, so here goes; the girls and futas are fucking gorgeous in this game and I certainly wouldn't mind seeing more of them. The writing and NTR are decent too; better than 90% of the titles on this site. I could see this being _huge_ if there were new releases even quarterly.
 
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jamdan

Forum Fanatic
Sep 28, 2018
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I don't quite understand the complaint about this game making a low income.

It has 200+ patrons and a little over 1k per month on Patreon. That is really good for a "new" game, and really, really good for a game that hasn't had an update in 2 years. Those numbers probably put this in the top 5% of Adult games on Patreon.

And the fact that it gets that level of support, despite the fact it's hardly ever updated, means this is probably a goldmine. But that comes with an "if". And that "if" is if the developer actually works on it, or not.

I agree that making 150+ renders in a month, for this game's artistic quality, probably isn't possible. But if you can do half that for 3-4 months, you'd end up making a solid 200-300 render update. Which would boost your support numbers.

Don't see why this wouldn't double it's support numbers if it actually got regular updates. And that is all up to the dev to decide if they can make it happen.
 
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pluflomu

New Member
Jul 15, 2019
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0
Does anyone knows how to get the leszdom foot festish scene with sasha?
I also can't seem to get nina's swimsuit.
Any help is appreciated! Thanks
 
Nov 14, 2021
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I'm telling you there are no magazines to be found anywhere. Even with provided guide from previous posts with actual screenshots with the highlighted areas I cannot find any magazines. Carefully hovering my mouse to find any small pixel but nope, nothing.

Incredibly frustrating. Especially considering no backwards compability with previous saves, so the saves from people who were kind enough to provide a save with secret gallery fully unlocked doesn't work either.
 

Avaron1974

Resident Lesbian
Aug 22, 2018
25,902
89,357
It has 200+ patrons and a little over 1k per month on Patreon. That is really good for a "new" game, and really, really good for a game that hasn't had an update in 2 years. Those numbers probably put this in the top 5% of Adult games on Patreon.
Those numbers don't even put it in the top 50% on Patreon.

The top earners are earning 20k plus a month.

200 Patrons and 1k a month is about average and what most devs will earn.

Consider that when they abandoned their first game they had 1000 Patrons and climbing. They started this and started growing again. Now they have 200.

Chances of them growing again are very slim unless they can maintain updates which they won't.
 
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