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Better to waste it replying in a thread you don't want to follow
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another game with rape scene for dramatic effect?
- Aug 22, 2018
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It's not for dramatic effect.another game with rape scene for dramatic effect?
It sets the bad guy up with how far he'll go, sets the people up who work for him and sets her sister up with a revenge path and reason to want him, and a lesser extent until they make up, the MC dead.
It has story implications not just "oh, look, rape".
It's literally for dramatic effect.
Because beheading an innocent girl for her sister's supposed shortcomings wouldn't be far enough and raping her beforehand is more dramatic.
Sets them up with what? Drama?
Killing her kind of defeats her purpose of being kept as leverage, so her sister would do anything the bad guy wants her to do even against her will. Having her watch her sister get raped only antagonized her even more dramatically.
The bad guy was already characterized as bad before he also became a rapist. Maybe the story could have been even better, if it wasn't so dramatically black and white and the bad guy had at least a few redeeming qualities.
- Nov 1, 2018
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I personally think that Yumiko's rape and decapitation are bit over the top way to show that failure not an option!! All was well then BAM, Fucked up shit!!
- Aug 22, 2018
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It's like some of you have never read a story before.
No, beheading her wouldn't be enough.
We've all seen shit like that before. People being killed in stories is nothing new or shocking. If she'd been a fan fave for several updates and people were attached to her then sure, it would have had an impact.
She's a character no one reading knows or cares about and something shocking needs to happen to get that sympathy for her sister. Watching her get raped, beaten and beheaded has an impact on the reader. It's literally the same reason all story rapes happen, to have the biggest impact for a character that hasn't been around long enough to get reader sympathy or to make you really hate the people involved.
Very few people seeing that scene are going to enjoy it, that's the point. That's the point of all rape scenes in media. To effect you in some way.
A simple killing just isn't enough for characters that haven't been around long because people are desensitised to death, we see it in media all the time. If that was all that happened the scene would be forgotten about pretty quickly.
Sooner or later we're going to be fighting those people. Chances are you may get the choice whether they live or die.
Knowing they are willing to beat, rape and murder innocent people is going to effect your choice in ways other outcomes to the sisters failings wouldn't.
What leverage does he need now?
She failed him, he has no use for people that fail him. Even if he does decide to send her out again she knows what is waiting for her should she fail again.
There is also the fact that she failed because of the MC so she's probably going to hate him just as much.
I mean, you're literally describing how rape as a plot device has a dramatic effect, so I don't see what your disagreement is, really.
This is still a porn game, so the sexual content is inherently fetishized. I'm pretty sure that there'll be people fapping to this scene. I'm also sure that, if this wasn't a porn game, simply beheading the girl would have been enough.
I didn't get the impression that she'll be kept in a cell forever now. But she has to, because her sister was the only reason for her to not just run away.
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For some story writers (and players/readers), it's not. For those, it's a fetish, sadly.
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MP8910
Killing people on sight because you dont like them or they are different (sidewalk Alien) OR killing some guys just because they where there (2 guys outside the club) OR even giving a gun to a child - those alone are some pretty strong indicators for your "out of the line" mind.
BUT you broke an unspoken rule with that Yumiko scene ... one of those 2 actions against her would be .. hmm .. borderline questionable for a story focused Visual Novel on a "porn" game pirate site, but both? ....That´s sick - really.
I´m usually a nice guy - live and let live, you know ... but that was to much, way to much. I hope you wont have success with the "sick" side of your project - heck, I even wish your whole project to go down the drain. There is some nice place in the realm of abandoned games for your project!
Why? BECAUSE never kill innocent girls in "porn" games! NEVER!
*edit*
After reading some of the comments here and seeing some sickos (almost) applaud to that sick shit scene(s) ...
damn, I can understand more and more those who think the humanity has failed miserably and should go extinct ...
*edit*
Luckily there is an "Ignore thread" option ... thanks for that mods -> I´m out
Killing people on sight because you dont like them or they are different (sidewalk Alien) OR killing some guys just because they where there (2 guys outside the club) OR even giving a gun to a child - those alone are some pretty strong indicators for your "out of the line" mind.
BUT you broke an unspoken rule with that Yumiko scene ... one of those 2 actions against her would be .. hmm .. borderline questionable for a story focused Visual Novel on a "porn" game pirate site, but both? ....That´s sick - really.
I´m usually a nice guy - live and let live, you know ... but that was to much, way to much. I hope you wont have success with the "sick" side of your project - heck, I even wish your whole project to go down the drain. There is some nice place in the realm of abandoned games for your project!
Why? BECAUSE never kill innocent girls in "porn" games! NEVER!
*edit*
After reading some of the comments here and seeing some sickos (almost) applaud to that sick shit scene(s) ...
damn, I can understand more and more those who think the humanity has failed miserably and should go extinct ...
*edit*
Luckily there is an "Ignore thread" option ... thanks for that mods -> I´m out
- Aug 22, 2018
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That is just about the dumbest shit i've read this week.MP8910
Killing people on sight because you dont like them or they are different (sidewalk Alien) OR killing some guys just because they where there (2 guys outside the club) OR even giving a gun to a child - those alone are some pretty strong indicators for your "out of the line" mind.
BUT you broke an unspoken rule with that Yumiko scene ... one of those 2 actions against her would be .. hmm .. borderline questionable for a story focused Visual Novel on a "porn" game pirate site, but both? ....That´s sick - really.
I´m usually a nice guy - live and let live, you know ... but that was to much, way to much. I hope you wont have success with the "sick" side of your project - heck, I even wish your whole project to go down the drain. There is some nice place in the realm of abandoned games for your project!
Why? BECAUSE never kill innocent girls in "porn" games! NEVER!
*edit*
After reading some of the comments here and seeing some sickos (almost) applaud to that sick shit scene(s) ...
damn, I can understand more and more those who think the humanity has failed miserably and should go extinct ...
*edit*
Luckily there is an "Ignore thread" option ... thanks for that mods -> I´m out
Really should make a dumb post of the week award.
"Oh, oh noes, we must rage for teh pixels have been deaded"
It's a fucking game, no real innocent girls were hurt during the making of that scene get a grip of yourself boy.
Are people forgetting this is on patreon the rape thing is a not a good idea they hate rape just like incest all it is going to do is put people off with the tag and can get the game banned.
- Aug 22, 2018
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I just went back to check that scene because I remembered something right before it and I was right, it warns you a shocking scene is coming up and gives you the option to skip it.
Can't take people whining about skippable scenes seriously. Honestly folks, you make mocking you too easy.
Can't take people whining about skippable scenes seriously. Honestly folks, you make mocking you too easy.
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I think rape is allowed as a plot device, but not when it's the MC doing it.
- Oct 23, 2016
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I can't say I liked that scene, but I wasn't supposed to, was I?
There is a difference between "I can not stand to see such content" and "Wow, that is some dark, dark shit. WTF?!"
Totally get it from a story point of view, and it was well done, but it was still a very fucked up part of the story and that was the point, really.
That last picture of Yumiko's head, with the hint of a smile through tears, was god-damn awful to see and also a god-damn strong visual.
To those up in arms about it, stories are supposed to make you uncomfortable at times, they are supposed to elicit emotional responses from you, and those aren't always positive.
Sadly, today we live in a world, where people think they have a right to be spared anything that disturbs them, well, you aren't.
You have a right not to EXPERIENCE that kind of content if you don't want to, just don't buy the book, read the novel or play the game, but let others experience it. Here it was even easier, if you have a problem with dark, depressing, violent and brutal scenes, heed the fucking warning.
Again, I get not liking that type of content, but don't go insulting the dev or get your knickers in a bunch. This scene was obviously there to show us how absolutely inhuman the governor and his henchmen/women are, and I'd say it fucking succeeded at that.
To those who got a kick out of it, I respect your kinks and fetishes and don't want to shame you for them, but you guys are into some dark shit. Guro is so definitely NOT my thing.
There is a difference between "I can not stand to see such content" and "Wow, that is some dark, dark shit. WTF?!"
Totally get it from a story point of view, and it was well done, but it was still a very fucked up part of the story and that was the point, really.
That last picture of Yumiko's head, with the hint of a smile through tears, was god-damn awful to see and also a god-damn strong visual.
To those up in arms about it, stories are supposed to make you uncomfortable at times, they are supposed to elicit emotional responses from you, and those aren't always positive.
Sadly, today we live in a world, where people think they have a right to be spared anything that disturbs them, well, you aren't.
You have a right not to EXPERIENCE that kind of content if you don't want to, just don't buy the book, read the novel or play the game, but let others experience it. Here it was even easier, if you have a problem with dark, depressing, violent and brutal scenes, heed the fucking warning.
Again, I get not liking that type of content, but don't go insulting the dev or get your knickers in a bunch. This scene was obviously there to show us how absolutely inhuman the governor and his henchmen/women are, and I'd say it fucking succeeded at that.
To those who got a kick out of it, I respect your kinks and fetishes and don't want to shame you for them, but you guys are into some dark shit. Guro is so definitely NOT my thing.
- Oct 23, 2016
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I kind of disagree with you on that. From how the story is told, the governor seems to expect her to go out and do her job again, considering this, killing her sister REALLY was a stupid thing to do.
If it doesn't break her completely, it will just mean she can turn on him without having to hold back for anything.
She literally was working for that monster, because he could hold her sister's fate over her, it is kind of illogical to want to keep her as an assassin, while killing off the only leverage you had over her.
Apparently the dev either stopped working on the game permanently or temporarily? Not a patron so I can't read the whole post.
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That totally SUCKS!!! This was shaping up to be one of the best new AVN's around... top 10 potential for sure!
Hope Marniz will reconsider...
Adventure ever on friends, Phat
Hope Marniz will reconsider...
Adventure ever on friends, Phat
- Jul 31, 2017
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Well dang. That sucks. I actually enjoyed this one. Hard to find good sci-fi games these days.
Thanks Marniz for your work. Sad to see this one abandoned, but best of luck in your future endeavors.
Thanks Marniz for your work. Sad to see this one abandoned, but best of luck in your future endeavors.