Spfjolietjake

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I mean, the simpler option would be to just let the choices the player makes in the game have logical consequences...
I don't get the need to add consequences or morals every vn with dark paths/scenes. I enjoying doing all the shit I wouldn't do IRL in these vns with dark paths and I personally would hate consequences.

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Master of Puppets

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I don't get the need to add consequences or morals every vn with dark paths/scenes. I enjoying doing all the shit I wouldn't do IRL in these vns with dark paths and I personally would hate consequences.

Edited: double quoted
I don't think you understand what "consequences" means. It doesn't always mean bad shit happening to the MC, it just means the game doesn't completely ignore the choices you make. Like how in the last update, Kiki is fucking Lois and Mallory even if you "All Business"ed her.
 

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I don't think you understand what "consequences" means. It doesn't always mean bad shit happening to the MC, it just means the game doesn't completely ignore the choices you make. Like how in the last update, Kiki is fucking Lois and Mallory even if you "All Business"ed her.
wait kiki fucks lois and mallory when? I think the dev is trying to make some changes from the dark path and the normal path by building 4 paths in his recent post in patreons but he is going to make the game more buggy and much more complicated, hope he gets help regarding the loops and conditions so he won't get bugs and just concentrate on the story progression.
 

Spfjolietjake

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I don't think you understand what "consequences" means. It doesn't always mean bad shit happening to the MC, it just means the game doesn't completely ignore the choices you make. Like how in the last update, Kiki is fucking Lois and Mallory even if you "All Business"ed her.
There is more than one meaning. I assumed the other meaning because of the context. I apparently was wrong.

I personally would of used result, outcome, outturn or effect instead of consequences then.
 

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There is more than one meaning. I assumed the other meaning because of the context. I apparently was wrong.

I personally would of used result, outcome, outturn or effect instead of consequences then.
There isn't more than one meaning, this is the definition:

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It's literally just a synonym of all the other words you just listed. They are interchangeable in this instance. With the exception of outturn which doesn't fit at all.

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The term 'negative consequences' exists for a reason, because the word consequence in and of itself, isn't inherently negative.
 

Spfjolietjake

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There isn't more than one meaning, this is the definition:

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It's literally just a synonym of all the other words you just listed. They are interchangeable in this instance. With the exception of outturn which doesn't fit at all.

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The term 'negative consequences' exists for a reason, because the word consequence in and of itself, isn't inherently negative.
Lol there is a reason people say they have to "face the consequences". I personally never heard it used in a positive light. You don't hear "you have to face the effects".

Anyway it has traveled way off topic.
If the original poster wanted choices to matter and not be bugged out I agree.
 

SlapE

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Lol there is a reason people say they have to "face the consequences". I personally never heard it used in a positive light. You don't hear "you have to face the effects".

Anyway it has traveled way off topic.
If the original poster wanted choices to matter and not be bugged out I agree.
Yes because consequences can be negative... that's why "face the consequences" is also a phrase. It's not inherently negative though, otherwise "negative consequences" would be redundant. There's no debate to be had, you can literally just look it up yourself. The definition for it is clear as day, and it can be used for both positive and negative outcomes. Just because it's more often used in a negative way, doesn't change the word's actual definition.

I'm not debating literal facts with you anymore though, since it's pointless.
 
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Spfjolietjake

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Yes because consequences can be negative... that's why "face the consequences" is also a phrase. It's not inherently negative though, otherwise "negative consequences" would be redundant. There's no debate to be had, you can literally just look it up yourself. The definition for it is clear as day, and it can be used for both positive and negative outcomes. Just because it's more often used in a negative way, doesn't change the word's actual definition.

I'm not debating literal facts with you anymore though, since it's pointless.
I said I was mistaken in the first post you quoted so I don't get how I'm debating. I stated my personal experience and feelings after that.

" The world's definition " sometimes is not the best clearest way to get a point across. If most only use a word one way don't be surprised if people assume it means that.

Again way off topic.
 

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That's his last post on here, doesn't mean that he doesn't lurk. His posts on his patreon make me think he sees what people are saying on here but just doesn't post since it has been a bit aggressively grumpy in the thread.

Seems like updates have slowed down a lot too. I suspect it's he likes creating new content but every update he gets yelled at and a loud group of people who hate x thing and wants him to go back and "fix it." So I suspect it's a bit of one step forward and two steps back every update to appease everyone which seems like it could be a tad demoralizing.
 

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That's his last post on here, doesn't mean that he doesn't lurk.
Not quite. If you hover on someone's profile name (and if tagged correctly), you'll sometimes see a line that says "Last seen" (depending on that users's privacy settings).
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This is that user's last activity on the forum, not necessarily just their last post.
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The last activity for togs-games does, however, roughly coincide with their last post/reply on here.
 
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The problem I had is togs has added so damn many characters to the game who have barely been touched who could have easily been used for the "dark" content.

Instead (seemingly by his own admission for money), he warps a lot of people's perception of Kari and Lois. Lois I can get is a character who can essentially be anything the player wants her to be, its kind of a whatever (the business trip made it fairly clear).

I like immersing in games, whether its a porn game or not. So If there's content of a character being a whore just because I didn't sleep with her within like a couple weeks when we're supposedly "made for each other" according to the plot, makes no sense. I like a WIDE variety of content, but it's more of a "this is fucking stupid" view of that content with her specifically.

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Again I reiterate, what did he make all of these other characters for if he's not going to use them?


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Also, once again I state my loathing of Kiki, and I'm now 100% convinced she was forced on us as PA, when Vanessa was clearly the original intent. Game stays broken till I get an alternative to that non-option option in my honest view.

Pretty much the Kiki being forced as the new PA and the whole investing in breastaraunt scene treating MC like a bitch are my two biggest beefs personally, as they're the most ridiculous situations MC would and should clearly have full control over, and he doesn't.

I don't really have an issue or major strong feelings that are like REEEE vibes. Just disappointment that I called it that it was a couple people hurling money at him that changed the vibe of the game. Feelsbadman.
 

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Anyone managed to get the code to change fetish preferences to work? I've entered the code (Fetishes), but it doesn't show the current level or prompt me for a new one. Wanted to be sure I have it dialed up to 11 (well, 3 in this case).
 
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kevcolqaz

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That feature will come in the next update, after 11.02.
Taking about update isn't this monthly update not yet done? is he taking more time to implement the changes due to wanting more coding for the features to separate the content? Too many snowflakes will hate anything just for adding any content they don't like which is completely avoidable(maybe the kiki content was forced and needed to change).
 
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SpyderArachnid

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Taking about update isn't this monthly update not yet done? is he taking more time to implement the changes due to wanting more coding for the features to separate the content? Too many snowflakes will hate anything just for adding any content they don't like which is completely avoidable(maybe the kiki content was forced and needed to change).
I have a feeling it will be delayed. These changes don't sound like simple ones, as they are going to have to go through all the scripts to change everything to fit the new fetish options. Changes to variables and alternate paths depending on your fetish choices.

Going to be a lot of reworking going on to fit the new features, so more than likely, the update is going to take a bit longer than usual.
 

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I have a feeling it will be delayed. These changes don't sound like simple ones, as they are going to have to go through all the scripts to change everything to fit the new fetish options. Changes to variables and alternate paths depending on your fetish choices.

Going to be a lot of reworking going on to fit the new features, so more than likely, the update is going to take a bit longer than usual.
You mean to said new game play
Old save doesn't work
By the way Kari new look isn't pretty
Old look better
 
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