VN Ren'Py The Roommate [v0.11.11] [togs]

[gregers]

He just likes to make things even more complicated than they were doesn't he....

I mean, there is a certain charm to his everything-and-the-kitchen-sink approach: A first-time dev who follows his enthusiasms and is willing to experiment and throw in new systems as they strike him: Money, machismo, lust, fatigue, the phone and calendar, that kink survey that didn't go anywhere, and now a miniature Kinsey scale for how kinky you want the game.

I don't think those systems have done much good for the game broadly speaking and a few of them now seem vestigial, but I can see how they keep the dev's life interesting.

A simple choice-driven VN with logical branching would definitely be cleaner, sure.

 

[kevcolqaz]

He just likes to make things even more complicated than they were doesn't he....

Yes, he has made it much more complicated, but it is because his fans wanted slutification, and he tried to give options to all, and didn't want to leave this game to only one type of fans.

 

[Maviarab]

Yes, he has made it much more complicated, but it is because his fans wanted slutification, and he tried to give options to all, and didn't want to leave this game to only one type of fans.

Not the reason at all for all this VN's issues.

I mean, there is a certain charm to his everything-and-the-kitchen-sink approach: A first-time dev who follows his enthusiasms and is willing to experiment and throw in new systems as they strike him: Money, machismo, lust, fatigue, the phone and calendar, that kink survey that didn't go anywhere, and now a miniature Kinsey scale for how kinky you want the game.

I don't think those systems have done much good for the game broadly speaking and a few of them now seem vestigial, but I can see how they keep the dev's life interesting.

A simple choice-driven VN with logical branching would definitely be cleaner, sure.

Yeah my worry is....three times now....he has responded with he will do this, do that, fix the other, hears the complaints....

So what does he actually do? Adds yet another uneccessary, complicated and uneeded system...

*sighs*

 

[kevcolqaz]

Not the reasona t all for all this VN's issues.

He was getting lots of bugs when he tried to release an update and the previous choices and it still showed the other scene was a big issue in this sub, and many vanilla fans hated the degradation route in this game, and they were forced to select the character and play.

 

[Logan1377]

Just copying togs'

You must be registered to see the links

as it pertains to some of the recent discussions on here:




We'll see how it all comes out in the wash: To me a lot of the confusion is due to togs' consistently referring to sharing/sluttification content as "dark", where I would normally take "dark" content to refer to something else (power dynamics, hard D/s stuff, possibly dub-con or non-con content, etc.). It's possible to be into the former while wanting to avoid the latter, and vice versa. Time will tell how far this new system allows for that.

Thanks for the great info, and I agree with your point. I'm very much into sharing, swinging, sluitification, public sex and nudity, breast expansion, impregnation, lactation and other things that might be more than some are looking for, but at the same time I have very little to no interest in anything do do with BDSM, dominance, pain, humiliation, or anything along those lines. So I guess we'll see where it all goes.

 

[Maviarab]

and many vanilla fans hated the degradation route in this game

Many fragile snowflakes on F95 hated it. The slutification was NOT the problem this VN had. Neither were the other systems (as pointless as many of them were) either.

His inability to actually code as complicated as he wants to is a big problem yes. This led to scenes happening that should not. Making multiple choices to lead to scenes that upset a small minority of people is a fucking them problem, not a dev problem! The multitude of LI's with no content, the story going nowhere, the multiude of plots, routes and paths that were forgotten about, left behind or purely ignored is a far bigger issue and complaint of most people.

 

[sagerock820]

Just copying togs'

You must be registered to see the links

as it pertains to some of the recent discussions on here:




We'll see how it all comes out in the wash: To me a lot of the confusion is due to togs' consistently referring to sharing/sluttification content as "dark", where I would normally take "dark" content to refer to something else (power dynamics, hard D/s stuff, possibly dub-con or non-con content, etc.). It's possible to be into the former while wanting to avoid the latter, and vice versa. Time will tell how far this new system allows for that.

Yeah, sharing is not usually a dark path 99% of the time. I do sharing games all the time. I would not call sharing dark. DArk is cheating, hard BDSM, rape, etc.

 

[kevcolqaz]

Many fragile snowflakes on F95 hated it. The slutification was NOT the problem this VN had. Neither were the other systems (as pointless as many of them were) either.

His inability to actually code as complicated as he wants to is a big problem yes. This led to scenes happening that should not. Making multiple choices to lead to scenes that upset a small minority of people is a fucking them problem, not a dev problem! The multitude of LI's with no content, the story going nowhere, the multiude of plots, routes and paths that were forgotten about, left behind or purely ignored is a far bigger issue and complaint of most people.

Yes he had issues with the horny meter, and he added a phone payment feature and calls and money feature when he has lots of money, there were multiple loops in the game, and he also tried the code thing after the interviews to change the game content he left multiple things that's true but he did what his paying customers wanted, but wasn't that due to mods installed or something, I have redone my save for this game multiple times. He should have kept it a simple VN with multiple choices would have been the easiest but he is learning, who knows someday he might even become a big dev and continue and become his main source of income.

 

[LWtbo]

No offence to the Dev or the game but.
I hope your wrong about that untill a game is complete they are not Customers
Not to put too fine a point on it but the "he did what his paying customers wanted" is no excuse.
subcriber's are Supporter's.
They give money because of a Dev and his Game and the fact they Enjoyed it to start with.
They don't employ him or own him.
And if he makes the game diffrent just because of the people Supporting with money tell him too.
Well thats when Good Games Turn to SHIT and/or DIE.

Listen to their addvise take their criticism into advisement enact on the addvice only if it actually improves the game.
And not because some tosser with money tells you too.
Just because they want the game their way and want to take it in a diffrent direction.
Dev's should remember if the tosser takes his money elsewhere because he thinks he owns you.
But you had the balls to Ignore his arrogant demands.

That other actual fans will replace him and it will be because they like your vision of the game.
And not the Vission of some cunt with money who thinks they know better.

I will never Support a Dev that do's exactly what SUPPORTER's!!! want.
And I support a few that know a supporter is there to support.
Not there to demand and if they do the Dev will tell them to fuck off.
No matter what tire they are.

Just saying.

 

[mofonistik]

I don't get the extreme kink levels idea. How is that going to be quantified? Someone may prefer 95% vanilla but enjoy the milking scenes, or public nudity, or whatever individual kink. Just going by "extremity level" seems like it may not work very well. Someone can be into hardcore BDSM but not into sharing. Or vice versa.

 

[Maviarab]

I don't get the extreme kink levels idea. How is that going to be quantified? Someone may prefer 95% vanilla but enjoy the milking scenes, or public nudity, or whatever individual kink. Just going by "extremity level" seems like it may not work very well. Someone can be into hardcore BDSM but not into sharing. Or vice versa.

Exactly.

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

Just copying togs'

You must be registered to see the links

as it pertains to some of the recent discussions on here:




We'll see how it all comes out in the wash: To me a lot of the confusion is due to togs' consistently referring to sharing/sluttification content as "dark", where I would normally take "dark" content to refer to something else (power dynamics, hard D/s stuff, possibly dub-con or non-con content, etc.). It's possible to be into the former while wanting to avoid the latter, and vice versa. Time will tell how far this new system allows for that.

I don't get the extreme kink levels idea. How is that going to be quantified? Someone may prefer 95% vanilla but enjoy the milking scenes, or public nudity, or whatever individual kink. Just going by "extremity level" seems like it may not work very well. Someone can be into hardcore BDSM but not into sharing. Or vice versa.

Agreed, and echoing others this calls the ire of different groups of players - in fact I'd bet the majority of enthusiasts for each of those categories DONT like the other categories.

His inability to actually code as complicated as he wants to is a big problem yes. This led to scenes happening that should not. Making multiple choices to lead to scenes that upset a small minority of people is a fucking them problem, not a dev problem! The multitude of LI's with no content, the story going nowhere, the multiude of plots, routes and paths that were forgotten about, left behind or purely ignored is a far bigger issue and complaint of most people.

I disagree - the functions and original code is impressive for an avn, the problem is he just doesn't use it most of the time

Or maybe we're saying the same thing, I guess it's all under the umbrella of 'coding' and the scripts, but it's not like he's incompetent- he put in a system of relationship checks, breakups, instantiations, but none of the characters other than Lois 1 time after make use of it!

He just needs to start using his own tools, using the conditions checks, and like you said reel in older neglected plotlines/routes.

 

[criestoomuch]

Many fragile snowflakes on F95 hated it. The slutification was NOT the problem this VN had. Neither were the other systems (as pointless as many of them were) either.

His inability to actually code as complicated as he wants to is a big problem yes. This led to scenes happening that should not. Making multiple choices to lead to scenes that upset a small minority of people is a fucking them problem, not a dev problem! The multitude of LI's with no content, the story going nowhere, the multiude of plots, routes and paths that were forgotten about, left behind or purely ignored is a far bigger issue and complaint of most people.

The potential for something like NTR has been in the game for a long time. At least there was the threat with Randy and Kari. Which I think was in the first year of development.

He also needs to make extra renders for when the MC isn't on the girls path but she has to be there. And also to slightly alter the dialogue. On top of the sprawling content heavy fuckfest I think he wants to make.

 

[internet_says]

I just hope this is the last release going back and changing content to cater to the we want a hand holding simulator not a porn game crowd because I would rather have new content and storylines updated every couple weeks instead of constantly revamping the previous update to be less extreme and then a day of new content every month and a half.

 

[gears]

https://f95zone.to/threads/the-roommate-v11-03.210989/

Request thread for the update.

 

[kevcolqaz]

is there any changelogs for the update?

 

[gregers]

is there any changelogs for the update?

The dev doesn't do traditional change-logs but it covers the next day in the game (day 80) as well as the new content mechanics: "This version takes us through Wednesday, June 20, day 80 of the game. Apart from the new content that simply cover the events of the day, it also incorporates a new mechanism which is part of a wider plan to tailor the game to people's individual tastes. (...) Anyway, in this build you'll (hopefully) be entertained by the various goings on with Avril, Kayla, Mallory, Rei, Sylvie and Vanessa as well as the main girls."

 

[Argion]

Build 1103 - PC

You must be registered to see the links

Build 1103 - Mac

You must be registered to see the links

 

[InstaPrincess]

Did I miss some drama somewhere or was the NTR option from the end of 11.0.2 removed? I remember you could send the girls home with the old guy in the previous version and that's not possible anymore?

 

[Jukke55]

Did I miss some drama somewhere or was the NTR option from the end of 11.0.2 removed? I remember you could send the girls home with the old guy in the previous version and that's not possible anymore?

This version takes us through Wednesday, June 20, day 80 of the game.
Apart from the new content that simply cover the events of the day, it also incorporates a new mechanism which is part of a wider plan to tailor the game to people's individual tastes.
Up until now, there was a simple "Vanilla/Kinky" option at the start of the game, but a new game would give a wider range of ranging options from none (0) to extreme (3).
Loading a pre-existing game that doesn't already have a custom level will default to Moderate (level 2).
You can override this by hitting Escape, selecting "Enter a code" then entering "Fetishes" as previously described. You'll be prompted to enter the new level and you should save."

AS stated in the change-log, you have to do the enter a code and enter Fetishes (most have big f) and then if you change it to lvl 3 the NTR is turned back on.