VN Ren'Py The Sapphire Collar [Prologue] [Cheops' Law Productions]

[Konrad Simon]

Ok, a game about kidnapping, rape and slave trainer (according to tags in itch) but without pregnancy?
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EDIT:5-10 minutes of gameplay, impo some animations seem unnecessary to me, it would be easier just to use images. (I mean the animations in each choice).

Noted, thank you.

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Yes, that is exactly what it is. Probably a futile effort, but it cost very little to try, so what the hell.

Thanks for the feedback.

 

[Konrad Simon]

I take it rape is now seen as a common kink?

Always has been one of the most common kinks among both men and women. On Fetlife I help moderate a group devoted to rape fiction, and we have no shortage of readers or writers.

 

[CutieLvr]

This looks like it's going to be a lot of fun. I love to pretend being evil, brutal, and extremely violent. It's all pretend, but, it's fun to venture outside your own comfort zone. How deep down the rabbit hole do you dare to take Vickey and the others, I challenge you to go to the very depths of evilness. Please reconsider and include pregnancy and incest, you can make them optional. Good luck with your game, I'll be following closely.

 

[Konrad Simon]

This looks like it's going to be a lot of fun. I love to pretend being evil, brutal, and extremely violent. It's all pretend, but, it's full to venture outside your own comfort zone. How deep down the rabbit hole do you dare to take Vickey and the others, I challenge you to go to the very depths of evilness. Please reconsider and include pregnancy and incest, you can make them optional. Good luck with your game, I'll be following closely.

Thank you. Suggestions noted.

 

[Kaos_Theory]

Very interesting story so far, however when you get to the bed scenes after the chosen actions have been performed, the mc always says about "getting the ropes off" but in the renders, it is not ropes but handcuffs, this is just a minor thing but it does kind of pull you out of the story a bit.

Aside from that, I would have liked to have seen more interactions against the wall before moving to the bed scene, but I'm sure this will come in future versions

 

[Konrad Simon]

Very interesting story so far, however when you get to the bed scenes after the chosen actions have been performed, the mc always says about "getting the ropes off" but in the renders, it is not ropes but handcuffs, this is just a minor thing but it does kind of pull you out of the story a bit.

Aside from that, I would have liked to have seen more interactions against the wall before moving to the bed scene, but I'm sure this will come in future versions

Excellent points, thank you. I need to be more clear about the ropes--he is removing the ropes from her legs, but not the handcuffs. I'll take another look at that. And, yeah, I had the feeling that more stuff against the wall would be good--more dialog if nothing else. I'm not sure--mostly I'm eager to get on the main part of this, which is the training system.

I appreciate you taking the time to offer thoughtful feedback.

 

[Kaos_Theory]

Excellent points, thank you. I need to be more clear about the ropes--he is removing the ropes from her legs, but not the handcuffs. I'll take another look at that. And, yeah, I had the feeling that more stuff against the wall would be good--more dialog if nothing else. I'm not sure--mostly I'm eager to get on the main part of this, which is the training system.

I appreciate you taking the time to offer thoughtful feedback.

Happy to help where I can.

The reason I mentioned is that the ropes were not shown and I can't recall seeing any dialogue about using ropes on her limbs, perhaps simply adding said dialogue would be enough to convey the imagery to the viewers better

With regards to the actions against the wall, there could be actions with blindfold, or simply turning her around so the mc is behind her (this would likely create an intense feeling in the woman if that's what you're going for anyway) I do look forward to seeing what the training will consist of.

P.S. I do wish I had used the cat 'o' nine tails though, maybe in the future or perhaps a feature to be added to 'wall actions'.

 

[Konrad Simon]

Happy to help where I can.

The reason I mentioned is that the ropes were not shown and I can't recall seeing any dialogue about using ropes on her limbs, perhaps simply adding said dialogue would be enough to convey the imagery to the viewers better

With regards to the actions against the wall, there could be actions with blindfold, or simply turning her around so the mc is behind her (this would likely create an intense feeling in the woman if that's what you're going for anyway) I do look forward to seeing what the training will consist of.

P.S. I do wish I had used the cat 'o' nine tails though, maybe in the future or perhaps a feature to be added to 'wall actions'.

I like the blindfold idea! And, yeah, there will certainly be floggers, although that time it was just an excuse for me to steal the Dirty Hairy dialog and turn it into kink. I've been wanting to do that for years.

 

[Konrad Simon]

I get why the dev did what he did for the opening, but it kind of ruined the story for me...maybe instead of the female lead, use a different avatar and just word it differently. Honestly the crowd that's going to be offended and screw with you are going to do it regardless of your disclaimer at the start.

Yeah, you make a valid point. I did it in hopes of surviving the Patreon censors, but that's probably futile.

 

[Firebeast]

Very nice explanation, thank you.

I do however get the feeling the dev is not after non-con situation but pure rape. I'm old school I guess, where rape to me in whatever form portrait, is just that. Rape is taking from someone what they hold dear without asking.

As I say, in this scenario/game it's not hired women or consensual, or am I off track here?

It has been a for a long time, even for women. I've read that some studies say that around 30%-40% of women have some form of non-consensual fantasies/kinks, obviously it's hard to verify exact numbers as even when its anonymous a lot of people don't like answering about their exact kinks .etc

I know of a service where a woman can hire them to fulfill a rape fantasy 'adventure', obviously it's all actually consensual but she doesn't know when or where exactly and has to sign waivers and a whole bunch of stuff about what she is and isn't ok with and when she'll be alone for the beginning [abduction] so as not to actually alarm anyone .etc
There is a whole bunch of details that get sorted out before anything happens and I believe there is a safe-word type of system that can bring everything to a halt .etc
It's a form of non-con for women specifically.


So yeah, my main point is that a wide range of non-con play has been a kink many people have, both male and female, probably since people first existed.



edit: non-con is the short way of saying consensual non-consent, it's usually a critical part of sub/dom situations too, obviously with varying degree of 'freedom' for the dom partner based on what the sub will tolerate.

 

[Firebeast]

I guess some people will justify it just to appease their conscious and call it a fantasy.

I'm not here to judge, just find morality is pushed every day and justified in some way as normality. Besides not having a shortage of readers and writers still doesn't make it a normal activity or idea.

Always has been one of the most common kinks among both men and women. On Fetlife I help moderate a group devoted to rape fiction, and we have no shortage of readers or writers.

 

[Konrad Simon]

Very nice explanation, thank you.

I do however get the feeling the dev is not after non-con situation but pure rape. I'm old school I guess, where rape to me in whatever form portrait, is just that. Rape is taking from someone what they hold dear without asking.

As I say, in this scenario/game it's not hired women or consensual, or am I off track here?

How to explain? Hmmm. Yes, pure rape. As a fantasy. I find it very hot, as do many other people, as Content_Consumer explained so well. Above, Jstforme makes the point that those who find the fantasy hot are liable to be turned off by the undercutting of the fantasy at the beginning. Those of us into rape fantasy--whether as predator or prey--usually have no more desire to rape or be raped than a child playing cowboys with his friends would like to be in an actual gunfight. I don't know if this explanation is helping, or if I've missed your point entirely.

 

[Ghost'']

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[Konrad Simon]

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My Android Ports have a 2nd Persistent save location. So, even if you uninstall the game, the saves will remain Intact.

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Wait...did you just create an Android port of the game? Wow! That is awesome! I love this community!

 

[ouch2020]

Good start, simple, but two suggestions (though repeating others):
1) Take out that "role playing thing" at the start, I know there are also erotic/porn comics that do something similar, but reality is, if in a country it is illegal to depict rape even in comics, it stays illegal even in that way, and as far as Patreon goes, in reality it is more discretionary than that, simply Patreon decides they don't like what you put and your game goes, or anyway they threaten to make it go if you don't change it;
2) In the picture where you want to show (I guess) that she is crying, you may want to review it, it seems to me it looks too tick, honestly it reminded me of something else

 

[Firebeast]

I think maybe we are just missing each other's thoughts regarding rape. One can put murder into this scenario or even necrophilia. Having this desire even as a "fantasy" is strange to me, I guess.

All good, you guys enjoy what you enjoy.

How to explain? Hmmm. Yes, pure rape. As a fantasy. I find it very hot, as do many other people, as Content_Consumer explained so well. Above, Jstforme makes the point that those who find the fantasy hot are liable to be turned off by the undercutting of the fantasy at the beginning. Those of us into rape fantasy--whether as predator or prey--usually have no more desire to rape or be raped than a child playing cowboys with his friends would like to be in an actual gunfight. I don't know if this explanation is helping, or if I've missed your point entirely.

 

[pr0n]

patreon doesn't have rules - they use dices.
There is no other way to explain why some games with light content were banned, while games like "Raptus" (a game which is soley around raping and beating women) are still on there. And raptus is WAYYY to extreme for my taste.

Amazing how a VN like "Raptus" managed to survive, maybe hasn't gone to review yet, with mods doing a lousy (good) job. Anyway, Patreons rules deters many devs from producing that type of adult fantasy content. That's why I prefer Subscribestar and Pixiv Fanbox. Patreon unfortunately for devs is the biggest creator crowd funding platform out there, the others ones don't attract the same amount of followers.

 

[Konrad Simon]

Good start, simple, but two suggestions (though repeating others):
1) Take out that "role playing thing" at the start, I know there are also erotic/porn comics that do something similar, but reality if in a country it is illegal to depict rape even in comics, it stays illegal even in that way, and as far as Patreon goes, in reality it is more discretionary than that, simply Patreon decide they don't like what you put, and your game goes or anyway they threated to make it go if you don't change it;

You make a good point.

 

[JHorcoc6]

It has been a for a long time, even for women. I've read that some studies say that around 30%-40% of women have some form of non-consensual fantasies/kinks, obviously it's hard to verify exact numbers as even when its anonymous a lot of people don't like answering about their exact kinks .etc

I know of a service where a woman can hire them to fulfill a rape fantasy 'adventure', obviously it's all actually consensual but she doesn't know when or where exactly and has to sign waivers and a whole bunch of stuff about what she is and isn't ok with and when she'll be alone for the beginning [abduction] so as not to actually alarm anyone .etc
There is a whole bunch of details that get sorted out before anything happens and I believe there is a safe-word type of system that can bring everything to a halt .etc
It's a form of non-con for women specifically.


So yeah, my main point is that a wide range of non-con play has been a kink many people have, both male and female, probably since people first existed.



edit: non-con is the short way of saying consensual non-consent, it's usually a critical part of sub/dom situations too, obviously with varying degree of 'freedom' for the dom partner based on what the sub will tolerate.

I heard about that in the news a few years ago. Someone pretended to be a woman into rape fantasies and hired a guy to stage a home invasion as part of the fantasy, only they did it just to get revenge on the woman and she wasn't in on it. The guy from the company showed up and carried out the fantasy and just thought that the woman was really into roleplay given how scared and upset she was acting, except that she actually knew nothing about it so to her it was a real home invasion and rape.

I don't remember what happened afterwards but it was a complicated case because the guy really did rape the woman but he had documentation proving that he was sent there to carry out what he had every reason to believe were her fantasies. I don't remember if they ever caught the person who set the whole thing up.

 

[JHorcoc6]

It's a great game so far! I just signed up to support it on Subscribestar.

I agree with other users on here that the part in the beginning about the girl saying it is all a roleplaying fantasy is unnecessary. If Patreon doesn't like that then I am sure Subscribestar would be happy to have their business.