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I think decission to "transform" Karisma and the other girl into a full woman, even for all who decided to allow futa content, is a mistake. Big mistake. Even terrible for the game, almost killing it for me: developer is destroying immersion, coherence (yes, I know its a porn game, anyway) and making game less interesting.

Why to do that? Not enough women in the game? Why to allow choice about some characters be pussy or dick carriers if finally they Will appear as women anyway? Why to do things so absurdly complicated? Next updates futa characters will grow magically a dick like nothing happened?

I tend to think this kind of choices hide some kind of cowardice from developers because: a) dont want to include some sexual scenes that could involve futa+man, normally lame, like first scene with Karisma at the bathroom, hiding to the MC whats hanging there, and swimming pool scene with girl doesnt turning around, could be hints thats what happens here. And b) developers are in majority incompetent planning erotic or sexual scenes involving a futa character, no matter if its with man or woman. Terrible scenes usually because developers include futa characters, but they dont know what to do with them.
 

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I think decission to "transform" Karisma and the other girl into a full woman, even for all who decided to allow futa content, is a mistake. Big mistake. Even terrible for the game, almost killing it for me: developer is destroying immersion, coherence (yes, I know its a porn game, anyway) and making game less interesting.

Why to do that? Not enough women in the game? Why to allow choice about some characters be pussy or dick carriers if finally they Will appear as women anyway? Why to do things so absurdly complicated? Next updates futa characters will grow magically a dick like nothing happened?

I tend to think this kind of choices hide some kind of cowardice from developers because: a) dont want to include some sexual scenes that could involve futa+man, normally lame, like first scene with Karisma at the bathroom, hiding to the MC whats hanging there, and swimming pool scene with girl doesnt turning around, could be hints thats what happens here. And b) developers are in majority incompetent planning erotic or sexual scenes involving a futa character, no matter if its with man or woman. Terrible scenes usually because developers include futa characters, but they dont know what to do with them.
He's not transforming anyone
Just making it optional if they're female or trans
Trans Vanessa and Karishma will still be in the game

There was 2 sex scenes this update. 1 with a female character and 1 with a trans character
 

darth_hiruma

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He's not transforming anyone
Just making it optional if they're female or trans
Trans Vanessa and Karishma will still be in the game

There was 2 sex scenes this update. 1 with a female character and 1 with a trans character
So let's make this clear. There's trans Karishma shower sex scene later right? Or you mean shower sex scene are gonna available only for fem Karishma?
 

McWoodz

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So let's make this clear. There's trans Karishma shower sex scene later right? Or you mean shower sex scene are gonna available only for fem Karishma?
The shower scene is just fem-Karishma
Trans Karishma will have a different scene in the next update
The venue for it hasn't been decided yet
The trans sex scene this update was with Brenda
 

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Fem sex with Karishma, trans sex wit Brenda so far
I know. I just want to make it clear that dev didn't abandon trans Karishma. I like futa too. But my allegiance is to the preggo, to Alice!
The shower scene is just fem-Karishma
Trans Karishma will have a different scene in the next update
The venue for it hasn't been decided yet
The trans sex scene this update was with Brenda
OK but I must say this will confuse people. btw isn't it easier to just do trans Karishma sex scene in shower? I mean you just summon a dick and boom!! done.
 

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I think decission to "transform" Karisma and the other girl into a full woman, even for all who decided to allow futa content, is a mistake. Big mistake. Even terrible for the game, almost killing it for me: developer is destroying immersion, coherence (yes, I know its a porn game, anyway) and making game less interesting.

Why to do that? Not enough women in the game? Why to allow choice about some characters be pussy or dick carriers if finally they Will appear as women anyway? Why to do things so absurdly complicated? Next updates futa characters will grow magically a dick like nothing happened?

I tend to think this kind of choices hide some kind of cowardice from developers because: a) dont want to include some sexual scenes that could involve futa+man, normally lame, like first scene with Karisma at the bathroom, hiding to the MC whats hanging there, and swimming pool scene with girl doesnt turning around, could be hints thats what happens here. And b) developers are in majority incompetent planning erotic or sexual scenes involving a futa character, no matter if its with man or woman. Terrible scenes usually because developers include futa characters, but they dont know what to do with them.
I'm disappointed in the trans Karishma shower scene not being there yet too, but you're off your rocker if you think OMVN is shy about doing scenes with dickgirls.
 

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The shower scene is just fem-Karishma
Trans Karishma will have a different scene in the next update
The venue for it hasn't been decided yet
The trans sex scene this update was with Brenda
I think the issue here is that if we chose trans content from the beginning, we shouldn't be encountering the cis-girl versions of these characters at all. We already have trans Karishma and trans Vanessa. It doesn't make sense to have the cis versions of them in our runthrough.
 
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So OneManVN, was it intentional that the only way to get the better version of the final movie scene with Melissa was to be on the FemDom route with her?

For the folks that are confused about cis-girl Karishma and Vanessa showing up, I'm pretty sure OMVN just forgot to gate those scenes behind a transEnabled flag check. If Trans content is disabled, we haven't met Vanessa yet at all (hence the option to name her and set her relationships), and we haven't had any lewd contact with Karishma yet. By the way, OneManVN, you might want to address why Vanessa is at the house since we haven't met her at all yet if she's cis-female. It's kind of jarring for her to show up like this unexpectedly with no explanation.

EDIT: For anybody who wants the end to the update referred to above while being more dominant, if you beg Melissa not to tell Mom about Alice kissing you in the pool, you get a FemDom point, but you also pick up the extra Melissa Point needed at the end of the update without doing anything sexually submissive. I am still curious if the Dev intended that scene to be only for folks on the FemDom path
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Each girl has her own personality. Initially you have to play by their rules if you want to get anywhere. As you get closer to the important choice you just mentioned (with all the points for the girl) you can then begin a relationship. From there you get to shape her yourself. People have their own personalities, likes, dislikes, and a lot of things that make them happy or unhappy with you. It'll take time to get them where you want to steer them towards, but it will be possible to make her sub once you've gotten laid with said girl. And the only thing I will do about Vanessa is bringing the scene that is locked behind transEnabled to light. Meaning... I'll make it so you can't skip or miss it and instead rewrite the part for where she is meant to be female. Which of course takes time. For now, the game assumes you know she is meant to be trans only. And all the people who asked for her to be female know she was initially trans.
 
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OneManVN

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I think the issue here is that if we chose trans content from the beginning, we shouldn't be encountering the cis-girl versions of these characters at all. We already have trans Karishma and trans Vanessa. It doesn't make sense to have the cis versions of them in our runthrough.
I don't see how that is an issue. This was never a trans game. Trans was optional and only 1 character was intended to be in the whole story (Karishma) The other two are paid for characters from patrons who keep paying those bills. So, I'm not going to make a separate story entirely for trans only. I mean... Melissa, Alice, Aiko, Leliana are not trans, you do know this right? So, you are okay with them in the game, but not female versions of the trans? Anyhow, people asked for them and I brought them. That's all there is to it.
 

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I think decission to "transform" Karisma and the other girl into a full woman, even for all who decided to allow futa content, is a mistake. Big mistake. Even terrible for the game, almost killing it for me: developer is destroying immersion, coherence (yes, I know its a porn game, anyway) and making game less interesting.

Why to do that? Not enough women in the game? Why to allow choice about some characters be pussy or dick carriers if finally they Will appear as women anyway? Why to do things so absurdly complicated? Next updates futa characters will grow magically a dick like nothing happened?

I tend to think this kind of choices hide some kind of cowardice from developers because: a) dont want to include some sexual scenes that could involve futa+man, normally lame, like first scene with Karisma at the bathroom, hiding to the MC whats hanging there, and swimming pool scene with girl doesnt turning around, could be hints thats what happens here. And b) developers are in majority incompetent planning erotic or sexual scenes involving a futa character, no matter if its with man or woman. Terrible scenes usually because developers include futa characters, but they dont know what to do with them.
Well, when you start working on your own masterpiece, you let the rest of us know how well you are doing with that MC getting fucked by those trans gurls. It has nothing to do with cowardice, and as for why did I do it? I did it for the same reason I added the trans, so people just like yourself could enjoy those girls with/without a dick. The rest is just your opinion and nothing more.
 

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I don't see how that is an issue. This was never a trans game. Trans was optional and only 1 character was intended to be in the whole story (Karishma) The other two are paid for characters from patrons who keep paying those bills. So, I'm not going to make a separate story entirely for trans only. I mean... Melissa, Alice, Aiko, Leliana are not trans, you do know this right? So, you are okay with them in the game, but not female versions of the trans? Anyhow, people asked for them and I brought them. That's all there is to it.
I think he mean people who choose trans should only see trans version of girl. Because it confuse many people right now. People be like "Wait I saw Karishma's dick last chapter. Since when she got pussy?" Not that I complain. I got pregnancy now.
 

OneManVN

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I think he mean people who choose trans should only see trans version of girl. Because it confuse many people right now. People be like "Wait I saw Karishma's dick last chapter. Since when she got pussy?" Not that I complain. I got pregnancy now.
Yeah, and people who choose females should only see females. I'll make that happen next update. Trans path gametime will equal 48 seconds. Let's see how many enjoy that version. I'll strip any and all females from the trans path. After all, it's not a good idea to show them there. It breaks immersion.
 

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Yeah, and people who choose females should only see females. I'll make that happen next update. Trans path gametime will equal 48 seconds. Let's see how many enjoy that version. I'll strip any and all females from the trans path. After all, it's not a good idea to show them there. It breaks immersion.
But but but...... Goodbye futa.
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I don't see how that is an issue. This was never a trans game. Trans was optional and only 1 character was intended to be in the whole story (Karishma) The other two are paid for characters from patrons who keep paying those bills. So, I'm not going to make a separate story entirely for trans only. I mean... Melissa, Alice, Aiko, Leliana are not trans, you do know this right? So, you are okay with them in the game, but not female versions of the trans? Anyhow, people asked for them and I brought them. That's all there is to it.
All I'm suggesting is that you gate these scenes behind an "if not transEnabled" (or whatever the syntax is) statement like you gated the trans scenes earlier. It doesn't make logical sense to have both versions of the characters in the same playthrough.

I'm certainly not criticizing your choice to have both versions of the character available, just keep trans versions and cis versions in separate playthroughs.
 
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OneManVN

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All I'm suggesting is that you gate these scenes behind an "if not transEnabled" (or whatever the syntax is) statement like you gated the trans scenes earlier. It doesn't make logical sense to have both versions of the characters in the same playthrough.

I'm certainly not criticizing your choice to have both versions of the character available, just keep trans versions and cis versions in separate playthroughs.
It would require a separate path. One I can't afford to do right now. Not unless people feel like waiting 60-90 days for the job to be done right. They would essentially become 3 extra characters. 3 trans and 3 females who would need writing and of course their own content per path. So, I'll do what I can to make the female scenes skippable, besides that there is nothing more I can do for the time being. Not with a half-decent PC. People ask for things without knowing how much work is required.
 

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I'm going to try and explain this for those who are rational and can understand the process of creating a VN all on your own, with a single PC while working on two VN's... I am very close to my first real goal over on patreon. Once that has been reached, I will invest (the next month after) on a new PC with a single GPU. Its purpose will be to help me fix shit that I couldn't do or include in an update due to the deadline. As well as allow me to write all the scenes while rendering is being done on the main PC = updates will be insta-released the moment rendering is complete.

In English. I will eventually place content behind the switch where it belongs and write/rewrite scenes that are already in the game. Just be patient please and try to understand that I don't do this because I want to be a douche. I do this because it is the best option available to me right now.

Now, I'm going back to work. Alison's update is underway. I'll tty all on the next SHRiNK if I'm still alive and kicking.
 
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