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nisse02

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Have scenes been deleted? I say this because in my previous game, I remember that there was a scene on the park bench where the old man (I don't remember the name, sorry) was with a friend and forced the redhead (Paula, I think) to ask for permission to make him a blowjob. Has that scene been removed?
its still there
 

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You're a better man than I. Oatmeal raisin cookies should not exist. They are a monument to man's arrogance.
Sacrilege! Blasphemer! There are only 4 acceptable cookie choices. Peanut Butter, Oatmeal Raisin, Chocolate Chip and Sugar :ROFLMAO:

Anything else is a weird type of bread.
 
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That particular check can't succeed at that point in the game but you will pick up where you left it, when able to select going jogging again after the prologue.

In order to do the event fully w/o interruptions, you can masturbate and raise Paula's submission in other events then it will automatically pass all checks when you do the jogging event in the selection phase.


There should be a couple of updates before next year. I have around 500 renders from events that didn't fit the narrative and didn't release in alpha.1 but should release either in alpha.2, or the final 0.3. The other events except the 0.3 closing one should be pretty "fast" to do since they are just meant to show very specific things. I'll specify that probably next week.

Unless you meant something else of course.
hi mate
Do you put a bug fix when it comes from alpha or do we have to download 7 gigs again?
 

erikhuis

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Code:
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
  File "game/story/index.rpy", line 211, in script call
    call prologue from _call_prologue
  File "game/story/index.rpy", line 665, in script call
    call event_selection_main from _call_event_selection_main
  File "game/story/misc/event_selection/script.rpy", line 234, in script
    while is_new_act(): # a group can end after an act
  File "game/story/misc/event_selection/script.rpy", line 234, in <module>
    while is_new_act(): # a group can end after an act
  File "game/story/index.rpy", line 468, in is_new_act
    return is_req_evt_seen() or deadlock()
  File "game/story/index.rpy", line 490, in is_req_evt_seen
    act_label = next_act_label()
  File "game/story/index.rpy", line 515, in next_act_label
    return var_get('act_label_' + str(current_act()), 'act_labels')
  File "game/story/index.rpy", line 465, in current_act
    return int(var_get('current_act'))
TypeError: int() argument must be a string or a number, not 'NoneType'

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
  File "game/story/index.rpy", line 211, in script call
    call prologue from _call_prologue
  File "game/story/index.rpy", line 665, in script call
    call event_selection_main from _call_event_selection_main
  File "game/story/misc/event_selection/script.rpy", line 234, in script
    while is_new_act(): # a group can end after an act
  File "renpy/ast.py", line 1841, in execute
    if renpy.python.py_eval(self.condition):
  File "renpy/python.py", line 2276, in py_eval
    return py_eval_bytecode(code, globals, locals)
  File "renpy/python.py", line 2269, in py_eval_bytecode
    return eval(bytecode, globals, locals)
  File "game/story/misc/event_selection/script.rpy", line 234, in <module>
    while is_new_act(): # a group can end after an act
  File "game/story/index.rpy", line 468, in is_new_act
    return is_req_evt_seen() or deadlock()
  File "game/story/index.rpy", line 490, in is_req_evt_seen
    act_label = next_act_label()
  File "game/story/index.rpy", line 515, in next_act_label
    return var_get('act_label_' + str(current_act()), 'act_labels')
  File "game/story/index.rpy", line 465, in current_act
    return int(var_get('current_act'))
TypeError: int() argument must be a string or a number, not 'NoneType'

Windows-10-10.0.19041
Ren'Py 7.4.10.2178
The Theater of Sinners 0.3.alpha.1
Sat Sep 16 10:01:08 2023
 

JustXThings

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I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
  File "game/story/index.rpy", line 211, in script call
    call prologue from _call_prologue
  File "game/story/index.rpy", line 665, in script call
    call event_selection_main from _call_event_selection_main
  File "game/story/misc/event_selection/script.rpy", line 234, in script
    while is_new_act(): # a group can end after an act
  File "game/story/misc/event_selection/script.rpy", line 234, in <module>
    while is_new_act(): # a group can end after an act
  File "game/story/index.rpy", line 468, in is_new_act
    return is_req_evt_seen() or deadlock()
  File "game/story/index.rpy", line 490, in is_req_evt_seen
    act_label = next_act_label()
  File "game/story/index.rpy", line 515, in next_act_label
    return var_get('act_label_' + str(current_act()), 'act_labels')
  File "game/story/index.rpy", line 465, in current_act
    return int(var_get('current_act'))
TypeError: int() argument must be a string or a number, not 'NoneType'

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
  File "game/story/index.rpy", line 211, in script call
    call prologue from _call_prologue
  File "game/story/index.rpy", line 665, in script call
    call event_selection_main from _call_event_selection_main
  File "game/story/misc/event_selection/script.rpy", line 234, in script
    while is_new_act(): # a group can end after an act
  File "renpy/ast.py", line 1841, in execute
    if renpy.python.py_eval(self.condition):
  File "renpy/python.py", line 2276, in py_eval
    return py_eval_bytecode(code, globals, locals)
  File "renpy/python.py", line 2269, in py_eval_bytecode
    return eval(bytecode, globals, locals)
  File "game/story/misc/event_selection/script.rpy", line 234, in <module>
    while is_new_act(): # a group can end after an act
  File "game/story/index.rpy", line 468, in is_new_act
    return is_req_evt_seen() or deadlock()
  File "game/story/index.rpy", line 490, in is_req_evt_seen
    act_label = next_act_label()
  File "game/story/index.rpy", line 515, in next_act_label
    return var_get('act_label_' + str(current_act()), 'act_labels')
  File "game/story/index.rpy", line 465, in current_act
    return int(var_get('current_act'))
TypeError: int() argument must be a string or a number, not 'NoneType'

Windows-10-10.0.19041
Ren'Py 7.4.10.2178
The Theater of Sinners 0.3.alpha.1
Sat Sep 16 10:01:08 2023
Old saves won't work. This is most likely related to that. If you came to this issue in a fresh start, can you provide some sort of save so that I can troubleshoot it ? Thx.
 

erikhuis

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Old saves won't work. This is most likely related to that. If you came to this issue in a fresh start, can you provide some sort of save so that I can troubleshoot it ? Thx.
ok thanks i know enough it was an old save i will start a new game.
if it happens again i wil let you know
 
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JustXThings

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But may I ask why you disabled quick menu and prevented auto paging? Not to complain, but just wonder why you want your players to click every image.
Do some players use auto-mode ? Unexpected. I'll re-include it. I thought it was a useless feature and I wanted to keep the quick menu short for possible future custom buttons. I was going to remove prefs as well, so re-including 'auto' doesn't make the menu too cluttered anyway.

If it really annoys you, you can re-enable it by simply removing the '#' from the line 311 (?) in the game_folder/game/screens.rpy and re-starting. If it doesn't work, you might have to remove the screens.rpyc file as well.

#textbutton _("Auto") action Preference("auto-forward", "toggle")
 

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One of the best in this Genre. I hope that in the next update Julius has more scenes with Paula and Agnes.
But one question: Are there only 3 scenes for Rebeca in the Gallery, or did I miss any?
 

JustXThings

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One of the best in this Genre. I hope that in the next update Julius has more scenes with Paula and Agnes.
But one question: Are there only 3 scenes for Rebeca in the Gallery, or did I miss any?
The gallery doesn't really show scenes, but allows re-playing the events. And events have a particular MC which makes decisions. Rebeca only has three events playable right now. She participates in many of the events of the other girls.

Unfortunately, the gallery in alpha.1 only allows modifying the stats of the main character's of the event. Which leaves out a bit of content that triggers depending on the stats of the not playable characters at that moment. For instance, the office scene with Agnes MC and Rebeca supporting has 3 variants (excluding the ones where the player simply doesn't go further) [agnes apologized in the toilet cinema, Agnes didn't apologize in the toilet cinema, Rebeca sadism low / high). Or the scene with Paula MC and Agnes with Julius has 2 variants depending on how corrupted is Agnes at that moment. I guess everybody got the thumb one, since we are all perverts here =D

Alpha.2 will allow changing the stats of all girls for an event. I won't be able to include any of the previous decisions since that implies going through all events, finding which variables affect and then creating some sort of pop-up UI to show some checkboxes the player can select to "emulate" previous decision making.
 
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JustXThings

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Guess the pussy.

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Working on 0.3.alpha.2. Expanding a bit on an event I had to show some bullying dynamics. I guess ugly old man and evil lezdom fans will rejoice that Paula will be getting a bit of love from Ruth, Mr.Wagner and a little expansion on her first visit to Natalie. There is still a bit to do since most scenes are growing as usual.

I decided to keep the longest finished scenes I have for a later alpha.3, so no Agnes BJ to some lucky guy, this time is for real !! Nor Richard fucking Paula.
 

JustXThings

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Fantastic game - I'm hoping Agnes clothing style and choice not only goes further (slutty/Exhibitionist) but also how she came to the decision to go and meet Paula in the office that morning.
Bravo Dev - brilliant job (y)(y)(y)
I just saw this. Since this is a porn game, most people won't notice the little details anyway. Too "busy", I know. It happens to me with other games. My neurons switch off, only the porn neurons keep switched on. I am going to hijack your question and add some stuff.

Yes. It will be showed, but not directly. There are two dates between Agnes & Rebeca (after calling her, after the break room) and some hints are already in dialogs and clothing details that we have already seen. I tend to be "subtle". Sometimes as subtle as an elephant storming through a library though. See some examples.

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This image from the endings in Clara Bittersweet is full from spoilers. I released it in January 2023.

- We know Olivia before make up, etc. looks like this... (white hair, eyebrows and eyes)

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... so, the kid crying is her (white hair) and the container is a reference to the container she hid from the seven dwarfs bullies.

- We see the bottle Paula use to take the pills on top of the furniture (the only present her mother ever gave her at 14 yo).
- And... we see Agnes wearing a trench coat and what appears to be... yes, you guessed right, nothing else =D (so, yeah, expect more exhibitionism. Exhibitionism and exposure is hands down Agnes preferred kink)
- We also see Rebeca beating the crap of Paula which is... well... totally imaginary and will never, never, never happen.

More stuff... Agnes first masturbation scene imagining Bill is using all information that Rebeca gave her in the dressing room (getting some sauce, getting some ass attention by Rebeca). In the second masturbation we have this scene...

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... where we see Rebeca pushing Agnes with her feet towards the dick. That resembles a bit the scene with Rebeca & Olivia where Rebeca is stepping on Olivia's feet. See here.

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The second scene (Rebeca & Olivia) happens before the first one. So, we can assume that Agnes took Rebeca's stepping on Olivia as a "dominating" trait she liked and imported it in her masturbation routine.

--

If we pay attention to the conversations in most Agnes scenes, we also notice that Agnes tends to think about Rebeca, visually look for her or do things because she "thinks" Rebeca will like them. So, we feel how the complicity between them grows out of scene.

--

Some more subtle things... guess who likes belly buttons ?


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Also, "small interactions" based on stats. For instance, regarding Rebeca's sadism and manipulation... if Rebeca sadism is high... you see this render. Rebeca explains how Olivia peed a river for feeling too much relief after a week of edging. She doesn't mention anything else, but why are there 3 pints of beer close to her ?


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A small Easter egg which I love is the following...

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Notice Rebeca's hoddy.

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(This is the old Rebeca model btw. I changed Rebeca's model twice before 0.1.alpha and some old renders still remain. For instance, Ruth first renders are in Quasimodo mode. I'll eventually change and re-render all the inconsistencies.)

And last but not least. Did anyone notice the wigs in Natalie's room ?

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There are plenty more details TBH.
 

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There are plenty more details TBH.
I noticed the feet, the mistake-shirt and partly the belly buttons, but the rest I was oblivious to. I think I have to replay both games soon and try to keep some other neurons alive ;) .
But these innuendos contribute to the complete "system" that I admire in your staging, writing, arranging, planning. It resembles a real play, not just some line of sex scenes loosely hold together by story.
I have to take a bow once again. I could not do it even if I had all my time for this, let alone additionally creating some really good renderers and completely ignoring the need to work a money-earning job, too.

Talking about almost hidden things: Am I seeing things or is (especially the older, more mature) Rebeca often smiling a caring smile when she pushes Agnes (third picture) or plays with Olivia (bar picture)? A little like a mother that has love for her child, sees through its play, stands above the game she plays for her child. Also she (the mother-analogy of Rebeca) seems to be a little bit sad that her child needs this kind of bad play to be satisfied, maybe even a bit of sadness that the playing time will not go on forever and real live will break in sooner or later. Maybe Mother/Rebeca is even a little bit sad she might not be able to protect her "children" for all their life.
She was introduced half a monster but she might be a half-diamond at least.
 
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I just saw this. Since this is a porn game, most people won't notice the little details anyway. Too "busy", I know. It happens to me with other games. My neurons switch off, only the porn neurons keep switched on. I am going to hijack your question and add some stuff.

Yes. It will be showed, but not directly. There are two dates between Agnes & Rebeca (after calling her, after the break room) and some hints are already in dialogs and clothing details that we have already seen. I tend to be "subtle". Sometimes as subtle as an elephant storming through a library though. See some examples.

View attachment 2955725

This image from the endings in Clara Bittersweet is full from spoilers. I released it in January 2023.

- We know Olivia before make up, etc. looks like this... (white hair, eyebrows and eyes)

View attachment 2955786

... so, the kid crying is her (white hair) and the container is a reference to the container she hid from the seven dwarfs bullies.

- We see the bottle Paula use to take the pills on top of the furniture (the only present her mother ever gave her at 14 yo).
- And... we see Agnes wearing a trench coat and what appears to be... yes, you guessed right, nothing else =D (so, yeah, expect more exhibitionism. Exhibitionism and exposure is hands down Agnes preferred kink)
- We also see Rebeca beating the crap of Paula which is... well... totally imaginary and will never, never, never happen.

More stuff... Agnes first masturbation scene imagining Bill is using all information that Rebeca gave her in the dressing room (getting some sauce, getting some ass attention by Rebeca). In the second masturbation we have this scene...

View attachment 2955738

... where we see Rebeca pushing Agnes with her feet towards the dick. That resembles a bit the scene with Rebeca & Olivia where Rebeca is stepping on Olivia's feet. See here.

View attachment 2955742

The second scene (Rebeca & Olivia) happens before the first one. So, we can assume that Agnes took Rebeca's stepping on Olivia as a "dominating" trait she liked and imported it in her masturbation routine.

--

If we pay attention to the conversations in most Agnes scenes, we also notice that Agnes tends to think about Rebeca, visually look for her or do things because she "thinks" Rebeca will like them. So, we feel how the complicity between them grows out of scene.

--

Some more subtle things... guess who likes belly buttons ?


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Also, "small interactions" based on stats. For instance, regarding Rebeca's sadism and manipulation... if Rebeca sadism is high... you see this render. Rebeca explains how Olivia peed a river for feeling too much relief after a week of edging. She doesn't mention anything else, but why are there 3 pints of beer close to her ?


View attachment 2955799


A small Easter egg which I love is the following...

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Notice Rebeca's hoddy.

View attachment 2955806

(This is the old Rebeca model btw. I changed Rebeca's model twice before 0.1.alpha and some old renders still remain. For instance, Ruth first renders are in Quasimodo mode. I'll eventually change and re-render all the inconsistencies.)

And last but not least. Did anyone notice the wigs in Natalie's room ?

View attachment 2955824

There are plenty more details TBH.
I like the old Rebeca model, special the eyes. :)
 

JustXThings

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I noticed the feet, the mistake-shirt and partly the belly buttons, but the rest I was oblivious to. I think I have to replay both games soon and try to keep some other neurons alive ;) .
But these innuendos contribute to the complete "system" that I admire in your staging, writing, arranging, planning. It resembles a real play, not just some line of sex scenes loosely hold together by story.
I have to take a bow once again. I could not do it even if I had all my time for this, let alone additionally creating some really good renderers and completely ignoring the need to work a money-earning job, too.

Talking about almost hidden things: Am I seeing things or is (especially the older, more mature) Rebeca often smiling a caring smile when she pushes Agnes (third picture) or plays with Olivia (bar picture)? A little like a mother that has love for her child, sees through its play, stands above the game she plays for her child. Also she (the mother-analogy of Rebeca) seems to be a little bit sad that her child needs this kind of bad play to be satisfied, maybe even a bit of sadness that the playing time will not go on forever and real live will break in sooner or later. Maybe Mother/Rebeca is even a little bit sad she might not be able to protect her "children" for all their life.
She was introduced half a monster but she might be a half-diamond at least.
Things are pretty simple and I could talk it in depth but it's 1) spoilers and 2) a non-vanilla porn game, we don't talk about that sort of stuff here.
 

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Things are pretty simple and I could talk it in depth but it's 1) spoilers
Good thing. But maybe you want to reply after finishing the game (no pressure, though).

2) a non-vanilla porn game, we don't talk about that sort of stuff here.
Oh, I think you misunderstood my message - probably because english is not my mother tounge. I did not want to imply a real mother-daughter-relationship or something else incestuous. I used it just as an anology. Rebeca does not seem to act completely out of having a sadistic fetish. Sometimes I get the feeling that she even tries to do something good to Agnes, to help her. I thought I discovered something rather altruistic in her. Maybe I should have used a term like "friend" or "elder master" or even "philanthropist" instead of "mother".
But let's see where the story goes and what you really have planned.

But also a merit of your character design: They are so multidimensional that you can intrepret so many things in their behaviour, thoughts and mimic.
 
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JustXThings

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I get this error after the scene agnes fingers herself in the cafe, what to do to fix it ?
This might happen when you play an old save in 0.3, they don't work. If it was a fresh game. Can you provide a save, I'll take a look. Thanks !
 
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