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I used to develop games, but moved onto software, so I think I can weigh in on this;And i draw the line at people who criticise what they have no idea about. Programming is fucking hard. Unity is fucking bullshit sometimes. And its much more than just throw some assets together and make them fuck eachother. But people seems to forget that. I see so much disappointment in projects that AREN'T FINISHED YET. People see Patreon, and in Development and yet they somehow expect a AAA Title.
Just the same bullshit as with early access. People see a fat blue banner which says "EARLY ACCESS GAME - This Early Access game is not complete" and yet dare to complain that its not finished and are mad at developers.
On Patreon and Early access you DO NOT pay for the game. You paying for the privilege to play it while it's in development, The so called early access. You just get the game as a sideeffect because it would be suicide to take it away at release. Gamers begged so long for this, to participate in development. And now that we have it some entitled brats think someone owes them something. Actually we are the ones who owe because else development would happen behind closed doors and we would have no say in features etc.
And while it's true that some studios wouldn't exist without the support from early access, you have to keep in mind that that is also just a sideeffect. That entitles us to nothing and we can be glad that it went this way. At least i don't want to live in a world where EA, UBI and ActiBlizz are the only entities making games. Because their games are fucking garbage.
TLDR: if you want a finished game then wait until its fucking finished.
He is? Where? When? Quote something.
All i see is on one hand proper bug reports and feature requests. You know, constructive criticism. Which he reads and even answers to even though this isn't his patreon page. And on the other hand i see insults toward his work, which only spreads negativity and i don't see why a sane person should deal with that.
Please explain to me where he acts entitled. All Znel did was to promise to make the Sex-feature, which is in high demand here, a priority. Also he promised a special demo. Both if we don't post links. Everyone including Znel knows that links will get posted again as soon as these promises are fullfilled or if someone is tired waiting and posts an update, whichever comes first.
So in the end we didn't stop posting the links for Znel but for US, the members who want the stuff he promised.
If you don't want these features then feel free to go to his patreon, subscribe, reupload and post the link here just like i did. Nobody is stopping you. Do what you want because a Pirate is free.
if you want a finished game then wait until its fucking finished.
I agree, remove Holodexx crap and LaDouche and i'm in.
Just saw on itch you get Beta19, you might want to update that since it's the same version posted here
Developers are not above reproach. I made some shite before, and I even worked on some mobile games that never got released, and which I was thankful never got released because they were predatory as fuck, but. I needed the money.
Getting upset at a dev for feature creep is not unwarranted. Some devs (Myself included) can lose ourselves in fixing and tweaking the same thing over and over again, because we keep seeing better ways it could be developed, theres nothing wrong with saying "Hey. Stop that shit and move on".
Though, I do agree that some people take it waaay too far, and people that pirated the product should keep complaints to themselves due to them, well, not having any stake in the games development as they didnt pay for anything related to the development.
However, if you paid for a product and you arent seeing any sort of movement on it for months, its okay to be like "Hey, we need an update here to make sure you arent just fiddling with yourself watching the money roll in".
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