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MisterNephilim

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Wait, so according to the last relations screen Brooke isn't an LI? Nooooooooooooo, I really wanted her to be my MC's main waifu.

Anyways, cool game I like the morality/caution system, and Madelyn is cute.
 
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CoffeeDrinker

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Congratulations 'Laundry on your first episodic narrative adventure! And a big thank you to the community for giving this a chance!

It appears there is some confusion regarding the relationship between the MC and Alaina. As one of Laundry's editors, I feel the need to bring some clarity...

Alaina is a step-sister to the MC with no blood relation what-so-ever. The MC's father and Alaina's mother married as the MC was leaving for college (Alaina is approximately 4 years younger than the MC and was in high school at the time). They didn't grow up together and they've never lived under the same roof. Early on, the two developed a very close relationship where the MC has always looked out for, and taken care of his step-sister.

Hope this helps.
 

Saphfire

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Uhm, i am not to far in the game but one thing is already annoying, The BJ scene felt like i was back in 2016 when there were no animations...
 

motseer

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Uhm, i am not to far in the game but one thing is already annoying, The BJ scene felt like i was back in 2016 when there were no animations...
Most devs don't start out as expert animators and they can't afford to outsource the animating at first either. But good renders, decent writing and good story telling are enough to gain a following and work on other skills (like animation). I am happy to see any dev do a good to excellent job with what they know and wait to improve and add other skills later. It definitely beats having crap animations just so they can say they are there.

Kudos to Laundry Games. This is definitely a good start and I'm looking forward to seeing more.
 

Saphfire

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Most devs don't start out as expert animators and they can't afford to outsource the animating at first either. But good renders, decent writing and good story telling are enough to gain a following and work on other skills (like animation). I am happy to see any dev do a good to excellent job with what they know and wait to improve and add other skills later. It definitely beats having crap animations just so they can say they are there.

Kudos to Laundry Games. This is definitely a good start and I'm looking forward to seeing more.
I fully understand, and i didn´t mention it to diss the dev. In my opinion it is better to avoid these "semi animations" until
he either is able to create decent animations or none at all. But these half cooked scenes don´t do it.
 
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Laundry_Games

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Preview looking very nice, model, render and story wise.
Will give this a shot!

P.S. any animations ingame or planned?
Thank you for giving my game a try! I want animations, but my comp is a bit slow in the process and everything that came out was a bit trash lol. I'll be using funds allocated towards this project to upgrade and incorporate animations for sure! (y)
 

Tiur

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Alaina is a step-sister to the MC with no blood relation what-so-ever. The MC's father and Alaina's mother married as the MC was leaving for college (Alaina is approximately 4 years younger than the MC and was in high school at the time). They didn't grow up together and they've never lived under the same roof. Early on, the two developed a very close relationship where the MC has always looked out for, and taken care of his step-sister.
For Patreon's purposes, this is not enough to not be incest (blood relations don't matter to them). Beyond that, it will generally turn incest AVN fans away. For a lot of people, stepcest is worse than being completely unrelated, because it's completely unnecessary. AVNs aren't mainstream porn videos, which use step-relations to avoid a different kind of censorship, so either they use the "roommate"/"landlady" workaround, they create wholly different patched stories (like My Dorm), or they use itch and SubscribeStar and go full-on with blood-related incest.

If Alaina is an LI, Patreon will eventually slap Laundry down if that relationship is not retconned in the core game and re-implemented via a patch that is never mentioned or distributed on Patreon (at which point there's no reason to keep it a step-relation). While step-relations are acceptable in mainstream porn as a stand-in for incest, there's a reason successful "honest it's not incest" AVNs on Patreon use the "roommate"/"landlady" stuff and an "unofficial, fan-made" patch.

On a different note, like a few others in this thread, I'm personally waiting to hear an answer about future harem or not before I try it out and see if it's worth supporting, now that we've gotten an answer on NTR/swinging/sharing.
 

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Most devs don't start out as expert animators and they can't afford to outsource the animating at first either. But good renders, decent writing and good story telling are enough to gain a following and work on other skills (like animation). I am happy to see any dev do a good to excellent job with what they know and wait to improve and add other skills later. It definitely beats having crap animations just so they can say they are there.

Kudos to Laundry Games. This is definitely a good start and I'm looking forward to seeing more.
Yeah Saphfire lets hope with some more experience these good looking models, we'll get animation in the future.
 
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Anarchy2000

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For Patreon's purposes, this is not enough to not be incest (blood relations don't matter to them). Beyond that, it will generally turn incest AVN fans away. For a lot of people, stepcest is worse than being completely unrelated, because it's completely unnecessary. AVNs aren't mainstream porn videos, which use step-relations to avoid a different kind of censorship, so either they use the "roommate"/"landlady" workaround, they create wholly different patched stories (like My Dorm), or they use itch and SubscribeStar and go full-on with blood-related incest.

If Alaina is an LI, Patreon will eventually slap Laundry down if that relationship is not retconned in the core game and re-implemented via a patch that is never mentioned or distributed on Patreon (at which point there's no reason to keep it a step-relation). While step-relations are acceptable in mainstream porn as a stand-in for incest, there's a reason successful "honest it's not incest" AVNs on Patreon use the "roommate"/"landlady" stuff and an "unofficial, fan-made" patch.

On a different note, like a few others in this thread, I'm personally waiting to hear an answer about future harem or not before I try it out and see if it's worth supporting, now that we've gotten an answer on NTR/swinging/sharing.
I saw a survey on a page of an incest topic where it indicated that stepcest is as hated by the incest crowd (I'm not generalizing) as ntr himself lol
 
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For Patreon's purposes, this is not enough to not be incest (blood relations don't matter to them). Beyond that, it will generally turn incest AVN fans away. For a lot of people, stepcest is worse than being completely unrelated, because it's completely unnecessary. AVNs aren't mainstream porn videos, which use step-relations to avoid a different kind of censorship, so either they use the "roommate"/"landlady" workaround, they create wholly different patched stories (like My Dorm), or they use itch and SubscribeStar and go full-on with blood-related incest.

If Alaina is an LI, Patreon will eventually slap Laundry down if that relationship is not retconned in the core game and re-implemented via a patch that is never mentioned or distributed on Patreon (at which point there's no reason to keep it a step-relation). While step-relations are acceptable in mainstream porn as a stand-in for incest, there's a reason successful "honest it's not incest" AVNs on Patreon use the "roommate"/"landlady" stuff and an "unofficial, fan-made" patch.

On a different note, like a few others in this thread, I'm personally waiting to hear an answer about future harem or not before I try it out and see if it's worth supporting, now that we've gotten an answer on NTR/swinging/sharing.
Thank you for your consideration, and your concern about my patreon's well being. Alaina is an LI. The story I wrote, cannot change that. I don't wish to use any "work around" either. I am new at this and if I find problems with patreon I will work with them. If I can't, then I will find a different medium for people who wish to support me. The story is first, monetary support is secondary. There will be no "harem", though a polygamist option will be available (entirely avoidable) throughout the following chapters. I hope this clears things up, please ask anymore questions... I'll be happy to answer as long as it doesn't reaveal to much about the story.
 

Tiur

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Thank you for your consideration, and your concern about my patreon's well being. Alaina is an LI. The story I wrote, cannot change. I don't wish to use any "work around" either. I am new at this and if I find problems with patreon I will work with them. If I can't, then I will find a different medium for people who wish to support me. The story is first, monetary support is secondary. There will be no "harem", though a polygamist option will be available (entirely avoidable) throughout the following chapters. I hope this clears things up, please ask anymore questions... I'll be happy to answer as long as it doesn't reaveal to much about the story.
Thank you for both answers. I don't have a reason to ask any more questions, since this is neither an incest nor a harem game so I'm unwatching and ignoring. Good luck with your game and with Patreon, and I'd recommend at least getting your SubscribeStar profile started through the approval process, which can take many months since they manually review everything before approval.
 
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Thank you for your consideration, and your concern about my patreon's well being. Alaina is an LI. The story I wrote, cannot change that. I don't wish to use any "work around" either. I am new at this and if I find problems with patreon I will work with them. If I can't, then I will find a different medium for people who wish to support me. The story is first, monetary support is secondary. There will be no "harem", though a polygamist option will be available (entirely avoidable) throughout the following chapters. I hope this clears things up, please ask anymore questions... I'll be happy to answer as long as it doesn't reaveal to much about the story.
Steam, Itch.io and subriscribestar are fine with it for now.

I can guarantee you won't be able to work anything with Patreon, they haven't budged on their stupid position for years, since the incestpurge they have done years ago. :-(
 
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Laundry_Games

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Steam, Itch.io and subriscribestar are fine with it for now.

I can guarantee you won't be able to work anything with Patreon, they haven't budged on their stupid position for years, since the incestpurge they have done years ago. :-(
Thank you sir. I'm currently starting up a page in case this dilemma holds true. I have you to thank. I appreciate your time on this thread. Truly. (y)
 

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Thank you sir. I'm currently starting up a page in case this dilemma holds true. I have you to thank. I appreciate your time on this thread. Truly. (y)
You might want to consider steam and itch as well.

You'll get less money from that, but most of us, myself included, prefer a once off payment through platforms we trust and can use paypal from :)

Subcribestar's only downside, is the fact they do not accept paypal, but then again, monthly payments are not everyone's cup of tea either :) Up to you of course.
 
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