VN Ren'Py Abandoned Threads of Fate [Ch. 3] [Manifest Visuals]

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holaje12

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Manifest Visuals said:
I tend to leave this stuff to the player's perception and imagination. And who's to say they don't do those things "behind close doors," so to speak. I think I would get the criticism either way. I would guess that the majority of people wouldn't like to see or even hear the mention of that type of content, especially if that happened to one of MC's love interests.
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Then why are you adding that to this VN, this doesnt make any sense, who is happy about this?
You know people are not going to like that so why imply it so hard, you even confirm the mom is a LI so having her being gangraped by orcs is the closest you will get to NTR without it being "actual ntr" due to some stupid technicality. If you are so adamant about your VN not having ntr, why include shit like this that people who hate ntr are just going to hate as much, even if it is not quite the same.

Manifest Visuals said:
That is why I didn't include the rape tag. I have no intention of incorporating it in the game. There will be scenes with Annabelle and the orcs, but they will not be of a sexual nature. Sex scenes will be focused around mc and his LI's.
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I just cant understand this obsession of having the mom be involved with the orcs, that were already being shown as having sexual interest in human females. It is just going to keep damaging the game for no reason because not even ntr fags will be happy about it if it isnt shown, so this is just making an effort to piss everyone off and making people focus on such a small part of the game that just brings so much negativity and bad faith to it in general, and its normal because thats the emotions/reaction that something like rape produces. It is disgusting.

Whats the plan, you expect people to be happy to have the mom as a LI after she has been gangraped repeatedly by beasts? Maybe even knocked up? Is that the romantic story path you want for a LI in your game?, such a important one like a mom even. W.T.F.:FacePalm:
 
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Advice to Dev: Literally just say, "The LIs haven't been and won't be raped or sexually assaulted". Making this one simple statement will essentially alleviate all of this tension. There is no need to shoot yourself in the foot like this.
 
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johnmnf692 said:
Advice to Dev: Literally just say, "The LIs haven't been and won't be raped or sexually assaulted". Making this one simple statement will essentially alleviate all of this tension. There is no need to shoot yourself in the foot like this.
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would you seriously believe him after this shitshow? He already showed that orcs rape their female prisoners. So any logical explanation, why it didn't happen in this case?
 
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OleJackRipper said:
so. . . .
based on the comments I've seen. We got an entire update after the orc attack and kidnapping. And we don't have a situation update on the mom's situation.

Manifest Visuals , I'm sorry man. You've taken criticism really well. I do not want to be any of the last straws. But ambiguity and a gap of "know nothing" with an explanation later tends to not be accepted.

I've played another vn where soldiers attack the mc's home. His mother goes to delay them and let her children escape. You hear the soldiers make sport of her. And later we're told the mc's mother was . . . .beaten to death? and nothing but beating her?! You don't see the scene and that's the lynchpin the dev uses.
a patreon version for ntr lovers shows an "alternate" where they gang-raped her to death. However the gang-rape made a lot more sense than the beating to death the dev staunchly insisted happened. Hell, some even said the dev was gaslighting.
I mention that to say, if you leave her a captive for longer, excuses and reassurances tend to be less believable given the established reputation for goblins, orcs, and more especially in porn.
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Yeah, I think I know the game you're talking about and even when I read the details I knew it was hogwash.

In this case here you have the matriarch, which is pretty much god tier to incest fans getting captured by Orcs. This same matriarch is said to be a love interest if I have that right? And now you have a rabid base that's being told to "Use their imagination" in a porn game... What could possibly go wrong lol. Self sabotage should be studied in universities across the world.
 
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Mibera said:
would you seriously believe him after this shitshow? He already showed that orcs rape their female prisoners. So any logical explanation, why it didn't happen in this case?
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Here's the thing dude, if he says it didn't happen, then assuming he doesn't later on have the characters say that it did happen, it didn't happen. There can be any number of reasons why it didn't happen that can easily be written into the story, if he puts forth the effort to do so. Just as an example, he could say that this group of orcs were being led by a villain that was looking to sell them as slaves, but no one wants a slave that's been run through by orcs.
 
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johnmnf692 said:
Here's the thing dude, if he says it didn't happen, then assuming he doesn't later on have the characters say that it did happen, it didn't happen. There can be any number of reasons why it didn't happen that can easily be written into the story, if he puts forth the effort to do so. Just as an example, he could say that this group of orcs were being led by a villain that was looking to sell them as slaves, but no one wants a slave that's been run through by orcs.
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Here's the thing.. ;)

All of this could've been avoided just like 99% of rants and arguments in F95. Sure, maybe in future updates this is nullified and people can move on from this, that's the hope at least. However, when you leave the screen door open flies do tend to get in.
 
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johnmnf692 said:
Here's the thing dude, if he says it didn't happen, then assuming he doesn't later on have the characters say that it did happen, it didn't happen. There can be any number of reasons why it didn't happen that can easily be written into the story, if he puts forth the effort to do so. Just as an example, he could say that this group of orcs were being led by a villain that was looking to sell them as slaves, but no one wants a slave that's been run through by orcs.
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sure he can write what ever he's still the autor last time i checkt. The question i asked is will it be believable and consistent with the world in which the story takes place?
 
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Mibera said:
sure he can write what ever he's still the autor last time i checkt. The question i asked is will it be believable and consistent with the world in which the story takes place?
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Consistency is overblown, exceptional things can and should happen from time to time in a fictional story. If you overuse exceptional elements then your story will suffer from lack of consistency, it will also suffer if exceptional things happen for no good reason, but that doesn't mean they should never happen.
 
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This was my favourite update so far. Loved the scenes with Lauren and Asra/Esabell, I hope we get to see the latter two again and they weren't just a one off. I like the Julie/Kiana rivalry as well.

I think people are overreacting to the kidnapping situation a bit, we see Annabelle (MC's mother) at the start of the update and she obviously hasn't been raped. That being said, the dev hasn't done himself any favours with Esabell's backstory (even though I loved the fact we could cuck both Beorhtric and the Orc with her). If the Orcs can brainwash her and make her forget about her husband then why wouldn't they be able to do the same to Annabelle?
 
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