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Mod Ren'Py Abandoned Time For Dragons - Defiler Wings: Deranged Dragon Mod [29-07-2020] [Jman]

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Jman9

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Yeah, looks like it is. Should it be changed? I can make patrols follow the same [mobilization - poverty/5 >= 10] pattern as the 'fixed' encounters.
 

zzczys

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:unsure: Its not easy to let it go up to 20, aside from being lazy and sleeping alot and making eggs. But then it might be too hard for others. Perhaps add a dragon size check also? Bigger dragon size, chance of more mobs.

Also great job on the repeating palace, elf grove, dwarf hall enemy waves. Its very fun to wipe em over n over n over...
 
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zzczys

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awrite now for some real fights

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Also upped the max mobilize in kingdom.rpy to 40 for testing
 
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Jman9

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Also upped the max mobilize in kingdom.rpy to 40 for testing
Not a good idea, lots of places assume it's between 0 and 20. :(

If you want bigger patrols, just change
Code:
        troops = [guard]
        for x in xrange(int(kingdom.mobilization//5)):
            troops.append(select([guard2,guard2,guard3]))
to (fixed version! really, now!)
Code:
        troops = [guard]
        for x in xrange(int(min(4,kingdom.mobilization//4))):
            troops.append(select([guard2,guard2,guard3]))
in the six 'hunt' .rpy files.

Edit:
Perhaps add a dragon size check also? Bigger dragon size, chance of more mobs.
Would be weird from an immersion POV. How does a big dragon magically increase patrol size? If the Kingdom really wants to kill the lizard, they are not going to skimp on patrols arguing that 'oh, but he's not so big...'. The dragon's actions have already shown that he's bad news no matter the size.

Anyone else have a suggestion?
 
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zzczys

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Would be weird from an immersion POV. How does a big dragon magically increase patrol size? If the Kingdom really wants to kill the lizard, they are not going to skimp on patrols arguing that 'oh, but he's not so big...'. The dragon's actions have already shown that he's bad news no matter the size.
Maybe add in another mob like Foolhardy guard, and chance to appear during max mobilize?


Difficulty level doesnt seem to be used for many things. How about using it for poverty decay and mobilize increase?
 

Jman9

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Maybe add in another mob like Foolhardy guard, and chance to appear during max mobilize?
'Max mobilize' already gives you 5 enemies. There should be something that sets 20 mobilization apart from 0-19, and currently it's the number of enemies.

Difficulty level doesnt seem to be used for many things. How about using it for poverty decay and mobilize increase?
Have you tried an honest playthrough (well, as honest as savescumming ever is) of hard or impossible? :devilish: Things are plenty bad there already.

Poverty decay has been seen as 'too much' from either end (flamewolf393's wastelands and your issues with getting it to rise at all), so I'd say it's rougly balanced. Mobilization already increases faster if it's far from where it should be. I don't want to make it near-instant, either.
 

flamewolf393

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I will say the poverty decay rate seems really slow. Though I guess its pretty realistic that if you devastate all the villages across the kingdom its going to have a hard time recovering. But from a gameplay perspective it does go down really slow. And what really sucks is once the demons are out it never goes down again, but again that just makes unfortunate sense :(

My poverty is so bad even the jotuns are abandoning their ice castles :p
 

zzczys

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Long sleeps of a month or more will get a good poverty decay rate.

What about chance for extra wave of guard mobs during max mobilize?
 
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zzczys

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The code change added an invisible mob. It just counts as another mob, but does not appear in battle or does any action.

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Fought a 5 mob battle and 6 len troops were counted.
 

zzczys

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Enchanted grove location not removed after burning tree of life. Going in again will have choices to head for tree of life or search for maidens.

head for tree - black screen, instant fame +4
search for maidens - still works.

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Currently living in dwarf halls, wheres the elf grove?
 

flamewolf393

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So Ive decided that Im bored and am going to try playing on impossible. Can I get some tips on starting off so its not too bad? :p

So it seems that impossible truly is impossible. Theres no way to finish the very first quest of gain 10 infamy, because the moment you have 5 infamy you get mobilization 1 and all the encounters that would give infamy are impossible to win. Becuase of this you cant ever gain any XP, so you can never evolve at all. Nevermind I got a lucky break and they didnt mobilize one day, and by destroying instead of robbing I just barely managed to break the 10 threshold.

Just hit year 2 and I dont have a single evolution yet, and the seals are already down by 200 even though my infamy has never gone about 13 -_-'
 
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Jman9

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Will get back to the rest tomorrow, but...

So Ive decided that Im bored and am going to try playing on impossible. Can I get some tips on starting off so its not too bad?
Savescum like your life depends on it. :p F9 is your only friend there. And read back through my posts a little. Getting magic and the belly are vital.
 

flamewolf393

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Almost three years in and I finally got my first evolution (went for creeping ugliness so I can demand tribute from towns now). Oh and the seals are half gone all ready. I can already tell that I wont even have access to altars before the demons come :p
 

prehot

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I recall you saying you improved jewcrafting.
Is there any more details you csn spare about it? Will having multiple workshops be of any use? Im considering leveling it up but it seems 2 much of a pain with questionable profits.
 

prehot

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Think impressive size quest unlocks the workshop. Also some high tier lairs have them prebuilt in case you dont want to evolve to that size yet.
 

flamewolf393

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Think impressive size quest unlocks the workshop. Also some high tier lairs have them prebuilt in case you dont want to evolve to that size yet.
I was impressive size, working on huge so it must be bigger than that. And you mean the high tier lairs that are basically impossible to find? the best lairs i found were the stone castle, abandoned monestary, and the elf grove. even spending a straight three months exploring cant find any of the end game lairs :(


So how do you stop the thief from robbing you blind? She completely bypasses everything. She sneaks past minions, she disarms traps with the 30' pole, and she puts you to sleep with sleeping powder, then takes literally everything down to the last copper piece. In the morning I had all my goblins quit to non-payment and without them I cant raid any towns for money to get more. I have to reload everytime the thief finds my lair, and right now I only have the one lair so I cant just change lairs to confuse her :(
 

zzczys

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Hire lots of goblins.
Build lots of tentacle traps
Rape lots of peasants and burghess to get poisonous minions

One or all of those should suffice and catch the thief every time.
 
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