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manneychin

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Basic logic screams at you that this is a cheap theatre of lies:
from discord
Here's why:

1. Motkeyz lamented on Jan 1st 2024 about how he planned the "deadline" for R12 to be... Jan 1st, 2024. He also said on Sep 18th 2023 (i.e. over a year ago) that R12 is coming "soon". Remember! These are facts you can find in his past Patreon posts.
Les all you can eat bullshit:

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So his main super serial goal guys was to wrap up R12 guys by the end of 2023 guys but on March 8th guys artwork was not done guys and writing was at "-500%" guys. On April 9th guys art was still not done guys so you're welcome guys and see you guys at the next serving of bullshit guys.

As I said before, this project is relatively low income, there's no point in getting all riled up about not having more content pushed out faster but OMG is the bullshit annoying. In the past ~2 years every Patreon dev who's had any kind of success has turned into a pickpocketer whose #1 priority is to swindle his paying supporters out of money using 3rd grade English (as second language).

Cheers guys!
2. Now Motkeyz says he gave everything to Aesouh but Aesouh still has SIGNIFICANT work to do to code the release. So over a year ago it was "soon" and now there's still coding and all kinds of stuff to do that ONLY Aesouh can do. Are you buying that? How about the statements from Sep 2023? You buying he was "just" incompetent when he assessed R12 is coming "soon" and more than a year later he changed his tune to "I don't know when it's coming"... huh?

3. The best lie is the one about Aesouh being the blocker. Motkeyz has the keys to the bank (Patreon and Steam) and he says he's working on a new engine & game to no longer depend on Aesouh. He also says the new game will release before R12! ... :D ... WHAT?
The new game will release on Patreon. When this happens they'll no longer be able to split the money because the new game is Motkeyz-only and there's no way to discerne which % of Patreon money comes from Timestamps and which from the latest game. The only logical thing to do is to cut into Aesouh's share. Who will then do the key "coding" that only he can do to see R12 released because why? It's obscene non-sense what Motkeyz is selling here.
Also, Timestamps is no rocket science and Motkeyz claims to be a competent enough developer to develop a new engine for the new game, right? This means he would be able to quickly switch the entire R11 + R12 on a new engine in a matter of 2-3 months (I'm being very VERY generous because the complexity of choices in this game is MINIMAL. It's mostly a visual novel you just click click click through.).
However, for some inexplicable reason, Motkeyz keeps selling the idea he's TOTALLY blocked and powerless in front of Aesouh. How stupid do you have to be to believe that? It's pretty much copy paste from Darkcookie's scamming manual where it says how to blame developers and a whole slew of other 3rd parties while claiming you yourself are a super good guy who completed everything you set out to do LONG ago but there's these damn 3rd parties that keep holding you back and, inexplicably, you can't do anything to fix the problem even though you control the money and you are the boss. Trust me bro, that's what's going on.

Occam's razor says Motkeyz is just milking his paypigs and sees a danger in letting them off the hook by releasing R12. What he's trying to do is to get them on another hook with the new game, and if that holds then and only then he'll release R12. Darkcookie taught them all well that the only consequences when you turn "Tech Update will come in 3-4 months" into 4 years + no release date in sight is you get $2+ million without shipping anything. Motkeyz does the same thing but on a much smaller level.
 

fidgetspinner

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Motkeyz claims to be a competent enough developer to develop a new engine for the new game, right?
Motkeyz next game will be in Ren'Py. A quad amputee monkey could code on Ren'Py with his nose. Aesouth made a custom Unity engine for Timestamp and that's fucking Motkeyz over.

Occam's razor says Motkeyz is just milking his paypigs and sees a danger in letting them off the hook by releasing R12. What he's trying to do is to get them on another hook with the new game
Well no shit that's just good business practice. Every single creator does that. Whenever your last project is close to end you release a demo for the next while you have followers.
 

Simpleton173

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Well no shit that's just good business practice. Every single creator does that. Whenever your last project is close to end you release a demo for the next while you have followers.
Good faith and good business practice are two separate notions. You can’t honestly say your comment holds merit on good business practice when you were just provided support that this update was going to be released in Q1 2023. Feels more and more like a scam.

Something smells fishy and it ain’t the chicks at the sorority house….
 

fidgetspinner

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Good faith and good business practice are two separate notions. You can’t honestly say your comment holds merit on good business practice when you were just provided support that this update was going to be released in Q1 2023. Feels more and more like a scam.

Something smells fishy and it ain’t the chicks at the sorority house….
That's not what i said. What I said is that every single creator overlap last creation with the creation. I made no mention of time here. Usually if they are good creators that overlap doesn't cause delays in release. Here the delay in release has nothing to do with the overlap of creation. Motkeyz and Aesouth are just unreliable cunts who took over a year to make the last episode.
 

Snugglepuff

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Here the delay in release has nothing to do with the overlap of creation.
Pretty soon you'll feel like you're banging your head agaisnt a brick wall... If not already.

Motkeyz and Aesouth are just unreliable cunts who took over a year to make the last episode.
Based on what's been shown to us in the thread, I'd say it's just (or at least predominantly) Aesouh. Motkeyz seems to have held on for as long as possible before starting the next project, giving Aesouh more than ample time to finish his work as well and get the release out.
 

fidgetspinner

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Pretty soon you'll feel like you're banging your head agaisnt a brick wall... If not already.



Based on what's been shown to us in the thread, I'd say it's just (or at least predominantly) Aesouh. Motkeyz seems to have held on for as long as possible before starting the next project, giving Aesouh more than ample time to finish his work as well and get the release out.
Brother I use to support Culture Shock. My head is now stronger than brick.
 
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M29_P

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Stuck Help Please...
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Day 13
152.Go to Bacon

After the MC goes through most of the text with Bacon...
The MC asks Bacon:
How did you know when to extract me?
You know right before I...

Text won't advance past this sentence.
Bacon's home is the only thing on map that's lit up blue.

Is this a bug?
Set - Auto dialogue -
 
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starkj

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Is there any way to fix the game freezing on the text for no reason? Didnt happen in the previous game.

Cant find a way to fix it, it works if i go back some previous lines but when i move forward it freezes again, on hold or dropped if not fixed, a shame really. Dont know why devs dont just use renpy.
 
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Yurei

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Aug 6, 2017
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I tried to do some research where could be come from this freeze.
Maybe the problem could come from the pause system (as we have in this game) by exemple here :



After reading other things here and there, i see that it coudl be a problem with time scale option. Could be an option to desactivation pause system etc.
But well i'm not a develloper but maybe it could help.

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Edit 2 : Okay so again after doing some test, the version R11 PE P1 is the main problem. With downloading the previous version, i didn't get freeze situation where i got freeze situation in R11 PE P1. Since i was just starting the game in R11 PE P1, i got freeze with meeting heather first time and scarlet at college in part2.

With the previous version (r11 pe)(only), i didn't encounter these freeze.

I don't know where is exactly the problem, but in r11 pe p1, new animations was added (when heather and scarlet was smilling you when you meet them the first time in part 2).



So there is a problem with these animation added and/or dialouge option and/or animation/fixes cg transitions.
 

ankitneu

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I just started playing this game on my Mac, but it doesn't seem to be saving when I finish playing. I keep hitting the save game button but nothing shows up the next time I open the game. Also in the game option I can't open the save folder. Does anyone know of a fix for this?
same here.
 

splamo

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Jun 26, 2018
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Same here, and it's why I'm impatient for the next (final) release so I can actually play this. It hasn't been addressed since the last update dropped. Like at all. Not even acknowledged.
 

BigRedRadio

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Is there any way to fix the game freezing on the text for no reason? Didnt happen in the previous game.

Cant find a way to fix it, it works if i go back some previous lines but when i move forward it freezes again, on hold or dropped if not fixed, a shame really. Dont know why devs dont just use renpy.
Only fix I've seen is to restart Lost Love and do not import the Unrequainted love data I don't know if it actually works but it was suggested some time back so might be worth a try
 

Rex72

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Nobody need this game engine. It was a mistake to use it from day 1. This animated pornographic slide show would be far better on renpy. Do not call it a game, that would be a incorrect description as no skill and no risk is involved to progress the story, you (the "player") are not guiding nor controlling a dam thing. This is as it should be, this is not a game, no game engine is needed only a version of a powerpoint like program to display the scenes in the correct order. Do not pay for incomplete products, get a demo and buy it when it is DONE only. You would be pissed if some parts are yet to be shipped when you buy furniture, do not accept paying for incomplete "cartoons" either.
 

SamualHand

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May 4, 2018
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Nobody need this game engine. It was a mistake to use it from day 1. This animated pornographic slide show would be far better on renpy. Do not call it a game, that would be a incorrect description as no skill and no risk is involved to progress the story, you (the "player") are not guiding nor controlling a dam thing. This is as it should be, this is not a game, no game engine is needed only a version of a powerpoint like program to display the scenes in the correct order. Do not pay for incomplete products, get a demo and buy it when it is DONE only. You would be pissed if some parts are yet to be shipped when you buy furniture, do not accept paying for incomplete "cartoons" either.
Thank you! You know, I'm a pirate, I don't pay for games, that is why I'm here...
Maybe share your insights on Patreon, they might place it on the starting page as valuable insight! Especially the comparison with furniture was enlightening, better would be to compare it to a space rocket!
 
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