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personaly and i have said in the past i'm not a Fan of Bacon as a friend i like him but as for sharing with him no thanks.

multiple reasons for this starting with first one the look he gave me when his mom thanked me for saving her and his comment on me hitting on his mom. alarm bell 1 the look and comments say this dude is not a sharing type of guy.

then there's the fact he i useing me to try and sort out whatever it is he's done. alarm bell 2 this dude only thinks of himself but so do's MC so meh i stay friends with him.

alarm bell 3 when i let him Photo Graph my mom for me he did which my mom exactly what he warned me not to do with his mom.

Then we find out he is watching my mom perform masterbation on his PC and possibly incouraging her in chat and he is keeping it a secret from me. alarm bell 4 what a hypocrite warns me off while secretly perving on my mom.

last one he talkes down to the MC and treats him like he is an idiot when he gets the new info off the Old Mans pad sure MC might not understand the data but he knows the MC can understand time travel and its posabilities or the MC wouldn't have agreed to timetraving to help Bacon in the first place.

To be total honest im not sure Bacon even makes a good friend let alone someone you would wonna share with.

yes i know the MC just fucked his mom and Bacons mom at the same time i think that was more about MC getting his mom more than getting Bacons mom but no foul because Bacon wouldn't of hesitated to do exactly the same thing given the half the chance.

and as for his mom she's as bad she keeps Bacons lust for Juliana quite from you while actualy sujesting the threesome to juliana should be her,Juliana and Bacon first but settled for MC when Juliana wasn't too keen.

all i can prosume is that since Bacons own mom thinks Bacon is a sexy young man, she should first see a shrink and secound get some fucking glasses.

this is my Opinion only. but Bacon is at most a friend but definitely not a best friend , and he is definitely not to be trusted.

and i would't share Gaz with him and she's a currently a prostitute. let alone MC's mom and definatly never ever MC's sister.

sorry all you Bacon fans.
 

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personaly and i have said in the past i'm not a Fan of Bacon as a friend i like him but as for sharing with him no thanks.

multiple reasons for this starting with first one the look he gave me when his mom thanked me for saving her and his comment on me hitting on his mom. alarm bell 1 the look and comments say this dude is not a sharing type of guy.

then there's the fact he i useing me to try and sort out whatever it is he's done. alarm bell 2 this dude only thinks of himself but so do's MC so meh i stay friends with him.

alarm bell 3 when i let him Photo Graph my mom for me he did which my mom exactly what he warned me not to do with his mom.

Then we find out he is watching my mom perform masterbation on his PC and possibly incouraging her in chat and he is keeping it a secret from me. alarm bell 4 what a hypocrite warns me off while secretly perving on my mom.

last one he talkes down to the MC and treats him like he is an idiot when he gets the new info off the Old Mans pad sure MC might not understand the data but he knows the MC can understand time travel and its posabilities or the MC wouldn't have agreed to timetraving to help Bacon in the first place.

To be total honest im not sure Bacon even makes a good friend let alone someone you would wonna share with.

yes i know the MC just fucked his mom and Bacons mom at the same time i think that was more about MC getting his mom more than getting Bacons mom but no foul because Bacon wouldn't of hesitated to do exactly the same thing given the half the chance.

and as for his mom she's as bad she keeps Bacons lust for Juliana quite from you while actualy sujesting the threesome to juliana should be her,Juliana and Bacon first but settled for MC when Juliana wasn't too keen.

all i can prosume is that since Bacons own mom thinks Bacon is a sexy young man, she should first see a shrink and secound get some fucking glasses.

this is my Opinion only. but Bacon is at most a friend but definitely not a best friend , and he is definitely not to be trusted.

and i would't share Gaz with him and she's a currently a prostitute. let alone MC's mom and definatly never ever MC's sister.

sorry all you Bacon fans.

I don't disagree with you on this and do understand your arguments. But I somehow get an Oedipus-complex-vibe from your post (for the game - not in reality:coldsweat:).

The Oedipus-complex introduce by Sigmund Freud describes a similar situations as mentioned in your post: Placing MC, Bacon and Juli or Heather into a blood-related relationship (mother-son, with Bacon as your brother), you get to boys lusting for the love of their mom. Now there are somehow in a competition for the spot for mom's most favorite son.XD
 
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personaly and i have said in the past i'm not a Fan of Bacon as a friend i like him but as for sharing with him no thanks.
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To be total honest im not sure Bacon even makes a good friend let alone someone you would wonna share with.
Oh, make no mistake - Bacon is the second scummiest person in the game. But then, the scummiest is the person just like him but without the brains, the MC.

I mean, your character here is a muppet that is fooling with the entire space-time continuum, after knowing that even smart 'genius' Bacon has fucked things up, just because, ultimately, he wants to fuck his own mum and sister, after perving on them at every possible opportunity just isn't enough anymore.

Of course you can't trust him. He knew your mother was webcamming and never said a word (or sent an anonymous email or text if worried about you knowing he'd seen it). He not only took the credit for saving his mom, but got arsey at you for getting a share of the credit that you actually deserved in total (twice stepping in over the pictures in my playthrough when both times wanker Bacon would have just let them do whatever they wanted to his mom).

He is absolutely a self-absorbed and selfish arrogant backstabbing prick. Just as the MC is for wanting to fuck Bacon's mom despite knowing how obsessed Bacon is about her. There is absolutely no 'moral high-ground' in this story, as even Juliana is knowingly smoking against everyone's advice and wishes because she likes to prick-tease her son. Sis is fucking Dad with the female version of an Oedipus complex in it's absolute classic form.

If this were a moral story, the only 'good ending' would be for the time machine to explode, wiping this modern version of sodom and gomorrah off the map in a big mushroom cloud. :D
 

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Sis is fucking Dad with the female version of an Oedipus complex in it's absolute classic form.
I never thought about her having an Electra complex :coldsweat:. But after mention it, the very first scene in the game makes its obvious! The entire time I assumed John/Dad was the one lusting after Nika and not the other way around.

modern version of sodom and gomorrah
tell me where this place in reality exist and I will move there! Sodom and Gomorrah is my Heaven on Earth (but pls without the killing and bestiality) . :p
 

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I never thought about her having an Electra complex :coldsweat:. But after mention it, the very first scene in the game makes its obvious! The entire time I assumed John/Dad was the one lusting after Nika and not the other way around.
The key ingredient is the hatred/jealousy of the same-sex parent. Nika's continued goading and attacking of the mother is absolutely the style. In Oedipus Rex, and Freud's version too, you must not only lust for the opposite sex parent, but also want to depose/destroy/replace the same-sex parent. Bacon doesn't have the Oedipus complex because he is too attached to his father. Of course, if it turns out that Old Man Jones actually is Bacon's father, then Bacon's unknowing opposition is actually the perfect classical version of Oedipus Rex. :D
 

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is their a new Incest Patch cause the Old didnt work for me, or do´s the Patch just show the Incest between Bacon and his Mom?
 

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Thanks for the info :) Some of the things regarding having to click twice for example, in room navigation if a message shows up, this was requested by a lot of people to be more "ren'py style" click to dismiss message before you can do anything else. Before that it was actually just working to navigate with dialogue up.

Which animation stuff is unintuitive? The button controls in animation playback? or the UI elements?

Regarding the last choice, please if you could PM me your save file from where this happened I can investigate, but that shouldn't be happening.

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With regard to the first issue, I think I described it poorly, but I don't think it's the same thing you mentioned. As an example, I'm in the MC's house and about to go out the front door to check out Mr. Jones' garage (I never use fast navigation). I click the front door and it takes me outside and I get the "(His house is right next door, so this should go pretty quick) text at the bottom. Now, I would expect clicking once on the screen would advance the text to "(I see Bacon...)" but I have to click twice before that transition. This is just one example, it happened a lot through my playthrough, primarily when changing locations. I checked and it occurs whether I use left-click or the space bar.

Regarding the animations, I've since figured out the interface for them. I didn't realize that if the curved arrow button is red, then it's going to repeat the current animation, when white, it's going to play animations sequentially. Now that I understand that, I don't have an issue here. However, it wasn't immediately apparent that that is what it meant, to me anyways. I may have been... "distracted" by the freaking hot game though. :)

For the third problem, I think I've gotten it to manifest in two different ways. I'll send you a save, although I noticed it happen previously in the game. But you will see when you load this save that it should be loading where it shows in the screenshot Save24.jpg, late in the sex scene. However, while it shows that on loading, when you advance the text it goes way way back to when Maureen first shows up. If you play through the scene to your next choice (face/pussy) then select one, then subsequently click Last Choice, it will also jump all the way back to that same point.
 

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For first issue i think this is on purpose, i cant look at those scenes specifically right now but there are definitely scenes that has pictures without any text on it. Also left click and space bar does the exact same thing.

2nd issue, we will have a tutorial soonish i hope that will explain this better

third thing, yes i was able to reproduce this I think something happened in the latest version, that will be fixed in the next. Not sure what causes it yet.
 
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Moral in porn? :confounded::confounded:
Unless one happens to be one of those people who believe all sex is sinful and any sex outside of marriage is immoral (in which case, boy did you come to the wrong forum) then there doesn't have to be any immorality in porn. Many simply prefer to mix the two for added 'dirty'. :D

To me, there's really nothing immoral in anything that all parties consent to. On that basis, many porn games that don't have peeping or mind-control as a forced option have a moral path, even when it is the MCs blood relatives involved in the consensual porn scenes. :D
 
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To me, there's really nothing immoral in anything that all parties consent to. On that basis, many porn games that don't have peeping or mind-control as a forced option have a moral path, even when it is the MCs blood relatives involved in the consensual porn scenes. :D
Now there's an political platform I can get behind.
 
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