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dodobsgaming

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Considering the meltdown the creator went into when it first all fell apart. Plus the various people claiming they are/were the original creator of this game project. Its better to leave the dead in their resting place. Even if its a huge shame...
arisu how you must torment us
 

PaIIas_

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really is there someone reamaking the game who
Thank you very much for advice and kind words. While we as a group or I as an individual will make some projects based solely on our own ideas in the future, we are already working on this project for a month or two, and, for now, are united solely with the idea of making it - most of us got to know each other only when we got to working on it.

Either way, I can basically guarantee that nothing but the main premise and most of character cast will be transferred from original to this game (well, maybe also the overworld sprite style), and the gameplay decisions made for combat will be released as separate demos to get player feedback before getting an eventual release. As of now there are 2 demo versions of combat that show in what direction we, more or less, are going to come with it.

Can't say that the other gameplay decisions would be known to the player in advance, but since there's 8 people in the team and enough testers to work with, we should have a pretty smooth sail.
Sadly this is as far as I can help, I lost hope years ago and haven't checked how things are going since then.
 

zomkiller35

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Just stumbled back upon this thread, and I feel like I need to address the elephant in the room.


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TL;DR :
TKaF was in development hell, now it isn't.

And i guess that's all i have to say.
If anyone has any questions then join the community server and ping me in #tkaf-questions and i'll try to answer them.
Or if you want to be informed on TKaF news, feel free to join also.

The discord server is here :
 
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GroundIsWhat

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Next was the "revamp" development cycle, after having to start from scratch, the head dev, Alex aka Makuro decided to hire more people to the dev team, some of which he never should have hired but i won't name them, however, i will name someone, someone that absolutely everyone in the community server hated, someone that had so much ego that he'd threaten to mute you for a week if you dm him a single word.
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This is Ground, a former CommDev of TKaF.
Ground isn't someone you would call a "pleasant" person to talk to, infact if you asked ANYONE who has been in the server since September of last year, none of them would have anything positive to say about him.
I think it's funny that you immediately lambast my name then proceed to cherrypick some of the worst examples. Like, I don't even remember what the fuck that first screenshot is talking about. Whatever the context is, I'm pretty sure it was a comedic exaggeration, and if it wasn't, I most likely have a very good fuckn' reason for saying that because that action sounds FAR outside my usual prerogative. That second screenshot is also meant for comedy's sake. Maybe Alexey wasn't joking, but I sure as shit was.

I don't think you understand how often in normal conversation I'm just fucking around. It's not even a debate, for the most part I usually don't care. If it's funny, I'm doing it. I love committing to the bit, no matter what, because FUCK I love a good chuckle. Even then, the second example isn't so much ego as it is megalomania or trying to be controlling; if this wasn't me just doing a bit.
Now i don't want to talk about all of the other things he has done so i won't, just know that the rule enforcement became more strict and way less lenient after he got booted off the server.
It's funny how you say this as if this wasn't what I was trying to do in the first place? Due to Alexey's terrible philosophy in regards to moderation and community management, he allowed a minor into NSFW chats knowingly because "he was mature for his age," and because his nation of residence, Russia, had an age of consent that was 16. However, as I explained to him, that is not how the law works, and not how Discord works. Discord is a US company with US regulations they must follow and abide by (though to be fair, they usually don't.) The minimum age to be classifed as an adult on Discord is 18, therefore any and all environments, channels, etc. that are NSFW should not have people knowingly below that age in them.

That may be just one thing, but that one thing goes against everything I stand for as someone who has managed and moderated dozens of different communities before coming into TKAF. You never allow any minor-- those below the age of 18 --into an NSFW environment. To be completely honest, we should've age-restricted the entire server because TKAF is and I'm guessing still is (for what that's worth) a game with heavily sexual and fetishistic themes. The only reason why I didn't push for it is because I didn't want an even bigger target on my back in the first place with the community, which I knew was comprised mostly of teenagers who play Roblox and Project Moon games. In hindsight, I should've fuck it and push for it anyway.
Oh and Ground, if you're reading this, just know that no one on the server was "straight-up impossible to have a bearable discussion with", it was you who was straight-up impossible to have a bearable discussion with. Please PLEASE improve as a human being and actually be likeable instead of blaming other people for the problems that you created.
I think it's funny how you say this, yet everybody blamed me for TKAF's "death." The only thing I was responsible for, at all, was that we weren't allowed to Pseudo's art and designs. That's it. Everybody on the dev team at that point agreed that we were going to need to get a new artist for new content, and to also replace the old content for consistency's sake. It wasn't that big a deal in the grand scheme of things, but everybody needed to say something about how I killed the project because of that at the time.

You wanna know why I don't take any of your shit seriously? It's because I knew deep-down that at the end of the day, none of you fuckers could stand hearing anything bad about something you like. You couldn't handle somebody challenging you, how you think, how you act, you couldn't handle somebody who treated you like you weren't the main character. I could, because at the end of the day, I had plenty of good conversations on the server with a few select people who were willing to actually settle things by using their brain. I'm not gonna sugarcoat shit, I'm not gonna pretend to be someone I'm not just because people don't like it.

When all was said and done, I got out with everything I could've done given the circumstances, and you all are still picking up the pieces of something I had already figured out more than half a year ago now. Judging by your "progress" it seems like you guys are just gonna end up with the same uninspired story that Pseudo ended up making; pieces of a grander puzzle with nothing to connect them in-between.
A little while after Ground got booted off the community server, he decided to leak the document of the revamp's plot to another server since his ego was too far up his ass for him to think straight.
Though since everyone else in the other server was a decent human being, they didn't download the document and leak it to the community server. (I guess that goes to show how everyone else is so much more mature than you huh, Ground?)
And even if it did get leak to the community server, it wouldn't have mattered anyways, according to Mania, the commdev mapmaker.
First of all, I leaked the document to expose just how bad shit was behind the scenes, that I had people up my ass for trying to take the story in a focused direction, while those very same people had no fucking idea what direction they wanted the story to go in, and blamed me for that by telling me to my face "Everything we made was based on what you'd laid out." If you read the leak, you'd notice what I'm talking about here. Both Alexey and Rasin (Rasin especially) are generally pretty bad writers, though I've talked with Kakite before about how if I could've worked with just him and not Rasin, I could take his creativity and meld it with my sensibility, because Alexey was genuinely kind of creative, and I wanted to see what I could do to make his ideas functional within a setting.

I didn't do it out of ego, I did it because I felt like I was insane. I felt like I was being suffocated by people who had no fucking idea what they were talking about and insisted every single time they did without a shred of evidence or reasoning to explain how or why. I leaked it because I needed to make sure that I wasn't fucking insane. After I did it, I read through every single bit of it again, my work and Alexey/Rasin's work. You don't understand how fucking cathartic it felt to realize that not only was their work still bad, it was worse than I had originally thought before. Nothing was of substance. It was all a shell for an idea they had no notion of in their minds.

I won't apologize for what I did. I won't apologize for how I acted. I won't give you a reprieve from the shit that you spit out of your own mouths, because accountability is not a virture but an expectation. I gave people a taste of their own medicine and they spat it back out. Then they blame me for giving it to them.

I don't trust any of you to make something worth my time. If you had a demo out now, I would skip all the story I could and focus on the gameplay, just so I could get a taste of Kakite's home cooking again, because out of everyone, the only person who showed any promise besides the artists (at the time) was the guy who actually made the fucking game, and when I said something about it, everybody complained as if I was wrong.
Lastly, the "remake" development cycle. <-- we are here
2 months after the previous development cycle ended, Makuro returned to TKaF development (thanks Eleanor), and he also fired basically everyone from the previous dev team (except for Mania, Kakite and Tostisin), don't worry though, they pretty much did nothing anyways.
Having to start from scratch again, Makuro learned from his mistakes from the previous development cycle, thus he specifically only hired people who actually cared about TKaF and he also created work guidelines and deadlines so everyone on the dev-team actually had work assigned to them that they had to do unlike the previous development cycle.
And so far, it's been working out great, actual progress is being done way more consistently than the previous cycle.
Though as of right now, the only thing slowing down development is irl problems.[/SPOILER]

TL;DR :
TKaF was in development hell, now it isn't.
So what you're telling me is...

Alexey did everything I told him to start doing while I was on the team, more than half a year later, and you still hold me to blame for this shit?

Half a year later, he silently admits that he was wrong to no-one.

"The main problem with the development? Pride. On all fronts, mine included."

You can call me egotistical and immature or whatever the fuck you want for the rest of your life. You can call me anything to my face, and I won't retaliate, because at the summary of this entire discussion is that I am still right. None of you can tell me otherwise, because you just told me I was right. Alexey himself just admitted I was right. I made the blueprint, you all got mad about it, and now you cave in and say I'm right.

Back when I came back on after my ban from the server, I had added a gif of that scene from the trailer to Endgame to the design document saying, "You could not live with your own failure. Where did that bring you? Back to me." Isn't it funny how everything with this project ends up happening again and again? It's almost cosmic irony at this point.

Call my execution flawed or whatever, fine, but my message still echoes. You guys always keep looping back to me. You keep blaming me, you keep talking about me, you keep doing the same shit I tell you not to and it always ends up with you basically admitting I was right, but you REFUSE to say it outright.

So my question is, who's actually the egotistical one at this point? Who's the immature one? Who's the one who never actually admits they were wrong? I've admitted all I need to on where I was wrong, I don't need to repeat myself. So why do you always repeat yourselves like you never made mistakes? Why am I the only person who never has to change their ways? Why am I the only person who keeps getting talked about?

The answer to all those questions is obvious, because I'm the one who answered it back then. It's Alexey, and Pseudo, and everyone else who tried to tear me down, because they knew, deep down, I was always right.

I may be an asshole, which is something to work on for sure, but I'm never wrong. If you can't handle the truth, you should've never been on the internet in the first place, let alone out in the real world. I tried to show you all compassion by giving you something no else was willing to, and you blew up in my face for it. Not my problem anymore.

Anywho, with all that out of the way, let me clear the air:

I've pretty much abandoned the original document because I don't want to work on it. I have some ideas still lingering, but none of them are worth the time to work on the document again, and I'm far busier with work and IRL stuff to put any focus on that. I'm planning on re-enlisting soon enough, that or moving to another state closer to the people I genuinely care about, so I really don't give a shit about any of this anymore besides laughing at the "progress" this "remake" is making.

In the meantime, I'm gaining some experience in programming in C# because I plan later on to start development on a game that I intend to use primarily for my own research into creating an "anti-dark souls" style of game much later on. I don't have that much ambition for a full-fledged game, most of what I'm willing to work on is primarily just to make my skills and knowledge more potent, so you probably won't be seeing me for a while in general, and you most likely won't be seeing me on this forum with a dev badge because I don't really want to make a porn game.

With all of that said, here are my final thoughts:

I don't hate this game, I never hated this game, I never hated this project. I always hate the communities surrounding projects like these because everybody thinks they can make something better than someone else can without trying to dissect or understand what came before, and when they propose dumb ideas or lore, they get bitter because people state the obvious. However, what came before also isn't the bible. The original idea of something changes dramatically when new people are involved in the execution, and when that happens, you have to be able to let go of what came before.

TKAF is dead. It's been dead since Pseudo made it, because Pseudo hated this game and it's community far before I became involved, and I don't really care about it anymore. I came for the art, I stayed for the discussion, and I believe I've discussed enough about the game at this point. There's nothing more to say, this game kinda just sucked from the start and I gaslit myself into liking it because I wanted to make out with Red Hood in missionary. That's it.

I can only hope that the original fans of this game will enjoy the "remake," but at this point, don't hold out hope. You're putting your faith in the wrong people, except for one guy who I've already glazed enough as is. Just cut your losses and move on. It's best not to daydream.
 

Kunasih

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I came back to check on the game after hearing some music from it, and I gotta say... I have no idea what's going on but I gotta admit that you sound freaking badass right now Ground. Hell yeah, keep rocking.
 
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Norkael

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My dear Alice

How much must you twist the hearts of men
How much must you taint their souls black
How much must you break their minds

My dear Alice, sweet Alice

Another story has fallen to your sinfull temptations and collapse by its own pride

You showed them a dream, and in it's pursue they clawed at each other to possess it

Now only black ashes remain

What a mischievous little wonder you are my dear Alice

(almost 20 minutes to write this I'm really not cut to be a writer lmao)
 

Anon90s

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My dear Alice

How much must you twist the hearts of men
How much must you taint their souls black
How much must you break their minds

My dear Alice, sweet Alice

Another story has fallen to your sinfull temptations and collapse by its own pride

You showed them a dream, and in it's pursue they clawed at each other to possess it

Now only black ashes remain

What a mischievous little wonder you are my dear Alice

(almost 20 minutes to write this I'm really not cut to be a writer lmao)
Yeah, we should mating press alice.
 

Omnom88

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The old dev was supposed to be making a sfw game if I remember correctly, does anybody have his socials?
Just search under their old name from OP page 1.
I would not bet on it though. It seems to be a actual pattern at this point.
Gets inspiriation for a project. Then drops it for various reasons.
Outside of their consistent art output they dont seem to finish any of their other project idears.
 
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