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Unreal Engine Abandoned Together BnB [8318119] [Aurora Games]
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OMG it's true. They did post something.
They updated to Unreal 5. So they needed to port everything into it. I hope they will be faster now:
1. Because now they can focus 100% into making content for the game.
2. The new engine is better for developing with new tools; also better performance
3. They likely have already decided on the elements they intend to incorporate. It's probable that they abandoned any features that weren't functioning well and will now concentrate solely on refining the best mechanics
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they have been slow to update their game since the start. first update took like 8 months to get. then they added about 2-4 months each with the other 2 updates. So the second one took like 10-11 months and the third took like 13-15 months, and this update will be about 2 years and 5-9 months if they update at the end of the year like they said in the post. Even if we assume most of this time was to port everything to UE5, there will be at least 1.5y for the new content. So expect to see 0.5 around 2026-2027. So around 2033 to 2036 is an optimistic look when 1.0 could be out.
Fuck this development studio's news updates with supposed screen shots of the progress they have made on the game. Only the staunchest of supporters (those ones begging for NTR content be added to the game) believe them at this point.
They would be better served showing photos of their workplace with more than one employee working at a computer actually working on the game.
They would be better served showing photos of their workplace with more than one employee working at a computer actually working on the game.
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A single guy was working in his own company. He offered some services online with webshops. He had a handful of customers, but it wasn't enough for a full salary. Suddenly he came with a idea, that change his company forever.
Instead of a single email, he created different emails. One for support, one for sales, one for complaints etc. That's not all, he also used different names. He changed his website aswell, and put up some "stock" pictures of a office. Quess what happened? His sales increased significant and even bigger customers contacted him.
How bigger a company is, how many more employees a company has, how more believable and legit they look like. And this is exactly what these kind of developers do aswell. It's a manipulation technique, to believe they look legit and believable. Not only do they lie about the amount of employees that work inside their company, they also lie what they can provide.
I mean, have you look at the news article? Generated NPC's on the train, which will always have different personalities and professions, each time you take a train. They might or might not even take the train. So they also have a complete travel path. I mean, studio's that do have a budget of millions, can't even pull this off.
And then they finish off, "if there is a specific profesion you would like to encounter, please let us know!" Which is also a common technique to be more believable.
Each character can drive and have different driving styles aswell. I don't know, all the things they posted works the opposite in my eyes. It sounds all to good to be true.
I want to see a exactly working demo, instead of a single picture with some text.
They went quiet over more then a year. It just feels that those news articles are just being posted to boost up the sales again. I wouldn't be surprised if they go again off radar for another year after these news articles.
I want to see a working build with all this kind of content, and aslong we don't have it I will be sceptical and give them criticism.
I was saying the same thing about Fntastic with The Day Before if you know that game. They hired hundreds of volunteers. I said that this was just done to look more believable. Quess what, I saw a interview with a recruiter from Fntastic. He needed to hire every volunteer who applied, without taking work expierence or school in to account. After they got hired, almost nobody was being put to work. They just wanted to have numbers on paper, just to look legit.
I fully agree with you, but I have one problem with what you said. Sure, they can show off their office and more then one person working on the game. But who says those aren't just random paid people from the street, that pose in a office for a few bucks?
You know what solution would be better? Show us a working product with all these promised content, which we can try out ourselves and not a "video" they made. I don't care how many people work on it, I don't care about their office, I only care about working content that I can try out myself. Then we can talk!
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I agree with you but I am somewhat giving them a benefit of the doubt here, them having worked on a game and actually having completed it before.
Granted it was of a much smaller scope, which like you brought up here, you'd think these morons would have learned their lesson by now with this game's development up to this point but NO, they keep adding to it even more so than before.
(facepalm)
Hey guys I saw a new update is going to come finally. Check this out ❤
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Guys, this isn't a stupid visual novel that the guy just need to make screenshots and write some stupid dialogue. We can't expect a REAL game to have the same development speed as VNs. Everybody doubted they would release any sex content, but they did. They are delivering what people asked.
If you compare their progress agaist other REAL games, it's easy to see that it's on par or better than the most popular ones. Don't compare time between updates. It's easy to update every week if you only change a single line of code. You need to compare the amount of content evolution. Their updates always bring something big. Sure they could update twice as often with half the content, but what's the point?
I'd also get mad if they were like Project Helius, who earns probably half a million dollars per year to deliver even less than TogetherBnB is doing. But Aurora Games is not earning even 10k per YEAR on patreon.
So, let's adjust our expectations accordingly.
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Go tell that Bright Memory, there are also many similar 3D games on this site and I don't know of any of them, without updates for 2 years.
That's why this game Abandoned, and it's scam like Project Helius (IMHO).
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This site doesn't care about anything but one thing when it comes to what is "abandoned" and what is not. Have they posted an update in the past year? (update as the one we just got, not playable) Sometimes mods like the games and lurk, and if it has been like 6 months since the last playble update they put it on abandoned anyway, although that is rare. So don't take this site's abandoned tag as anything special. It's just there to help filter out stuff that has not received an update in a while.
And just as I am sure you know, all of them use pateron as their primary money-making place, and put out micro-updates every one to two months that are not worth touching for like a year or two right? Kinda a moot point if their updates might as well not exist due to how bad and small they are. And you have to wait as long if not longer for even remotely the same amount of content as this game puts up with each update. And they for the most part are just animations viewers with little to no gameplay so you are not even "playing" anything, just looking at animations, I can do that on PH if I just wanted to look at two or more 3D characters fucking.
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No, the problem is that the game isn't on Patreon by an indie developer who most likely is working on the game on the side. It's that it's being SOLD on Steam by a gaming company that has already put out a product before so they should have some semblance of what working on a project entails. That means communicating more than once a friggen year. And even then, only progress updates are released at that, time after time.
That so many seem to not understand this part is beyond me.
Why the fuck the game is even still up on Steam is beyond me too. It's going through a complete metamorphosis. Shouldn't even be available for sale with no updates for it as long as its been now. Should just be marked as "Coming Soon" and then I would have no gripes about it.
That so many seem to not understand this part is beyond me.
Why the fuck the game is even still up on Steam is beyond me too. It's going through a complete metamorphosis. Shouldn't even be available for sale with no updates for it as long as its been now. Should just be marked as "Coming Soon" and then I would have no gripes about it.
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I do agree a bit, they need to update the status more often. But I do not agree that we need updates where you can play them once a year, or more often, its on each person whether they decide to buy an EA game. The devs have no reason to deliver X amount of updates in Y amount of time. I do agree that they need to do better with talking with those who do pay and show updates more often. But besides that, it's just entitlement speaking. The devs do not owe you any amount of updates besides what they feel is right. You signed on to a game that is being developed, so you have to wait for updates. Be that once a month or once every 5 years. What matters here is "Do I wanna support these devs?" yes/no. And "Am I fine with paying for a game that is not even out, and may never come out?" yes/no. if you pick no to either, do not support them and just wait. Doing anything else is just idiotic from your place, not the devs.
Also, the game they made before did not sell super well, the money they got there is most likely already gone. And they were a small studio with less than 10 people then, and not having done any games prior. (besides some small tech demos we have not seen to learn from) Nor did they do EA for that game. It was a quick game they put together in about a year that can be finished super quick. With no sexual content and no gameplay that is even remotely similar to what they are doing now.
So they are touching new ground for themself, learning as they go. They have changed the language on the Steam and Patreon multiple times already, even removing all mention of sex from Steam and using "flowery" language instead to reference it for some reason. (even tho Steam allows porn now) They used to communicate more but got a lot of flack for not delivering on the date they set, as they missed it 2 or 3 times with the R18 update. After this, they reduced communication a lot. Now they are getting flack for having too little, so I feel like they will soon change once again. It's very apparent if you check their history or have been here long enough that they have no clue what they are doing.
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As you said: you don't know any of them. So how is your opinion relevant? And why do you bother shitposting?
Go tell that Bright Memory, there are also many similar 3D games on this site and I don't know of any of them, without updates for 2 years.
That's why this game Abandoned, and it's scam like Project Helius (IMHO).
People today just want to have an opinion even if they know nothing about the subject...
I think they are delivering enough for what they earn. And they are selling the game for cheap.
The game isn't really worth it to buy yet. Even in my region that it's really cheap. I mean REALLY cheap. Like less than 20% of a AAA title. I think you should wait until it's worth it. Be it version 0.5 or version 10. Don't get attached to numbers or release status.
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No one in their right fucking mind is buying an EA game that isn't putting out any updates for FIVE YEARS upon its initial release. That anyone would even state that is stupid.
As for the Joker gif poster and that ridiculous statement attached to it, I'm sure the vast majority of people who purchased TOGETHER BnB are not subscribing to their Patreon subscription or whatever the hell costs 100 dollars. They purchased the game on Steam expecting routine updates just like MOST games in Early Access deliver. Doesn't matter the price either, it's of no consequence here. Game should have never been released in EA in retrospect. Yes, the Dev's could have never known that Covid would occur (or possibly they could have seeing as how their country propagated it to begin with) but once they knew they would take forever to release updates, much less post any communication on its development in a routine and timely fashion, shit should have been yanked off of Steam.
As for the Joker gif poster and that ridiculous statement attached to it, I'm sure the vast majority of people who purchased TOGETHER BnB are not subscribing to their Patreon subscription or whatever the hell costs 100 dollars. They purchased the game on Steam expecting routine updates just like MOST games in Early Access deliver. Doesn't matter the price either, it's of no consequence here. Game should have never been released in EA in retrospect. Yes, the Dev's could have never known that Covid would occur (or possibly they could have seeing as how their country propagated it to begin with) but once they knew they would take forever to release updates, much less post any communication on its development in a routine and timely fashion, shit should have been yanked off of Steam.
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The last update was 2022. You are just making stuff up. Stop embarrassing yourself.
NO. YOU might expect that. So thats YOUR opinion
People can spend their money on a game that is cheap, has enough content for it's price even if the game won't get anymore updates. Actually, you should NOT be spending money on a game expecting it to get updates. If it isn't good, don't buy it! If you give money to help development, you are not "buying" it, you are "financing" it and that comes with a risk and no guarantees.
Yeah, the world should revolve around you. If you don't like something, remove it from Steam. Nobody can like it. Nobody can have it.
I could agree with you if the developers were milking their supporters. But they are not. People paid once on steam and have access to anything they release afterwards. You don't get it. This game's budget is absurdly low. I'm amazed they can deliver anything at all. Compared to the multi million dollar project from Helius and other crappy VN developers.
You're a nimrod brasilhero. No one when they purchased the game back when it released realized it would take this long between updates. Yes, maybe a few wouldn't mind but the far majority would not have purchased the game more than likely if they knew updates for it wouldn't come out until 3 years later. To try and state that they would tells me you've no fucking clue what you're talking about here defending this studio's practices.
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You seem to misunderstand something here, you are not buying anything. You are supporting something. That has no guarantees, to expect something other than what the devs themselves decide is idiotic. But gamers are not known for being smart nor know how finance or making games works. You may not like it, but you are not owed a full game if it's out in EA, assuming the reason they "left" is legit like death, bankruptcy, or anything else that would render making the game not feasible. You only buy games when they are fully out.
The only thing that could be done is to file a lawsuit, and hope that when it comes to court they actually ran with the money. Because if they even have an ounce of evidence that they are working on the game the suit would lose and nothing more than a low-ranking news outlet would care, oh and the reviews would fume over the loss over on Steam.
When you pay for any game out in EA, you are supporting a game, in hopes that money can one day make the game enter 1.0. You are not buying a game and are guaranteed a full game, shit happens and they can go bankrupt or die. But gamers think "if I see a price tag, I own it and that comes with guarantees." The only thing I think people who pay early deserve is to get status updates, ideally monthly or bi-monthly, but that are no real set rules for it. So I agree with everyone who wants more news updates and more clear language from their updates in the news section.
But let them make the game, it's better with longer dates between updates than smaller ones. I always do not touch games for multiple jumps in updates if they do that monthly or bi-monthly cycle. It just adds nothing of value, takes at least 4 months for the games that work fast to get a decent jump, but for most, especially the 3D games scene, 1-2 years.
I never "buy" an EA game unless I either: Trust the devs to deliver, I just wanna support them, or I think the product is already good enough to buy and any further update would be more like 1.1 for me rather than 0.6.
Ultimately gamer's feelings do not matter, what you are owed and what you want do not match 99% of the time. But gamers never grow up, and throw a fit when games do not give them micro doses every month. Pateron has poisoned the minds of gamers that a monthly update schedule is ideal or even good. The update schedule should be "when it's ready".