RPGM Tower of Trample [v1.18.0.4 + Standalone SC3] [Bo Wei/Koda]

[LittleQueen]

Inazuma update bruh too much content will have it done soon *pickaxe emoji*


very true, i hate how post karen the ''eternal flame'' has not been mentioned once i am hoping it plays some sort of role in the upcoming 7F because that was his supposedly big powerspike


go to the discord and criticize jessicas design and then come back and tell me there aren't camps i was being flamed for months because I voiced my opinion about the art direction bo went now everyone has its own tastes so why can't people respect mine? I don't like fat girls and abnormal bodies where the head is tiny compared to the rest of the body it just looks weird. also for the love of god stop with the ''jessica is not fat'' she has at least 40% bodyfat and im being nice here which counts as being morbidly obese

The problem is not the fact that you give your opinion, everyone has different tastes, and so much the better. The problem is the way you give your opinion, I've been seeing old posts and every time you mentioned Jessica or the Jessica fans you were insulting and mean. The problem is there. You can give your opinion while remaining respectful and courteous.

If you would give an opinion in a calmer tone, you wouldn't have had so many people responding to you in a virulent way. The problem is, you're the one who doesn't accept that people like things you don't like, if there's one topic you don't like, then the whole earth must dislike, but that's not how life works.
And I did not find Jessica especially fat, our character is much smaller than the female characters, so the shapes of the female characters are proportional to their height, which is normal. On the other hand, your obsession with Jessica and the messages you often convey about overweight people are worrying.

 

[Ashidorei]

Though this could be at least explained as story element. Even if this is not their intention, you could have it as headcanon that the higher Ethan walks into the tower, the more his personality will be molded into a subserviant tool for those mistresses.
That would explain why the warden let challengers just go upward without so much problems and why Jessica will redirect those if they move downwards from a certain floor. Because the week guys will give up and flee on a low floor and so they do not provide much problems (in the future) while those are strong will feel from the victories a sense of acomplishment and as a proof of their reighteousness and strength. But when they come to their limits and see they can not go further they will trapped with Jessica where they can not leave without victory. So when they are already exhausted the have to surpass another strong enemy. And for those that have the strength there is still her personality and frustrating fightingstily where she lures them to continue fight with her to proof it whas not mere luck but skill. So she supply even more grinding down.
Then there is another even more dangerous enemy. The tower makes it, that your will get slowly erroded. Together with the fact, that you are already in a hurry to rescue someone that is suffering and so even faster exhaust your mental fortitute it will happen to feel naturally. And even if you could come to have such a great understanding of your own psyche so you could come to see, that there is something slowly attacking your mind, this recocnation is prevented by having the higher mistresses being playing psychogames.
So you will come to think, that their answers are doing this effect on you and that mayby they where right, that you always where a submissive bootbitch and only did not (want to) recocnize it before and so surrender better and live a more joyfull live.

That it is really the tower that is slowly poisen you and makes sure, you will never suceed, that will never come to your mind because for that you need to leave and get some steps away from it to look at it from a more neutral view.
But because leaving means failing you will likely not come to this recocnation because you will have to live with a guilt that you where not strong enough to save your brothers (and sisters) and so the trap is perfect.

Of course there could mayby a woman challenging too. But if we assume that Lily whas not an exception but most sects are not taking women (equally) then we can assume that those feelings of anger about unjustice will get feed by the tower to turn women into such Dominas. And even if she has pure heart the tower will just make her shift her reasoning and if she is able to free her beloved he will likely already be a sub wanting and needing a mistress taking care (and mayby abusing) him. Then the tower will make her think, it is actually nice having been treated like a goddess and that it turned out as a blessing so she will not think long about the change but actually encourage him to worship her more and so will not have much reason to think about it but continue living the happy live as mistress and slave.

So yeah the Tower is the nearly the perfect trap. The only weekpoint would be, if a fighter is strong enough to breezing through the tower like fighting trainees or at least without struggle so all the mindgames about him being so weak that they need to hold back are not working on eroding his selfassurance and he is not staying and struggling long enough that the tower can erode his will.
But because of this they made lightning strikes only leaving the disciples behind that provide no danger.
In the meantime they groom even stronger women until they are unstopable. So in this sense of Rose having feeling for him and the hybris of higher wardens making it that Ethans true strength is not reconized and they continue to think, that the trap will going to work.
So with Ethan having still an unrecocnized power that could get lured out by Rose would be the perfect story element of why this gamble could fail.
It would actually even provide a good explanation of why the story will get wrapped up so fast.
Because Ethan is going on even longer without sign of him slowing down meaningfull anytime soon Karen will give him another visit.
Then he is even able beat Karen which makes the boss nervous. But because out of fileality she gives in to her daughters request thinking that where hard force is failing, instead her daughter that already has a connection to him is mayby able to end his streak and break him. If she makes him submit she is allowed to keep him which gives her enough motivation to convince him because as she obviously cares for him she would want to see him with her and so mostly fine instead of for example as a living toilet.

But if she fails to convince him she will let her connection work and bring him immedeataly to mother because the warden get slowly nervous because of his unlimited resolve while she sees, that Ethan actually do not make it longer so he need to end it now.
Of why they not fight him together so that as an example Ethan would have to fight Reaper and Iris together this plothole can be filled with the explenation, that those women that are gifted by the tower can not fight intruders together or the magic would not work anymore.


Sorry for the wall of text, my brainstorming turned out longer then expected.


Beat Karens floor with rescuing everyone including the already tortured one.

I got that ending (The PERFECT ending). But for some reason, I just didn't unlock blue Ethan for all dialogues from then on. Some people, when they engage in dialogue with npcs, they do it as a "blue phantom Ethan." Isn't there something else to do?

 

[LEWDpyon]

Sorry for the wall of text, my brainstorming turned out longer then expected.

Bro I do the same thing do not worry.

Even then, I like that headcannon. but it's just that. But it doesn't hide the underutilization of Ethan's CGs. Nor does it stop the fact that it comes out of nowhere especially since many of the newer updates are programmed to be encountered before Karen anyway. So no matter how you slice it either you the player will be greeted to Ethan stripped of his personality before even touching Karen then coming to Karen and Ethan suddenly has a character again. Or you decide to finish Karen and wondering what will come of this new shocking revelation will go to side area only for Ethan to become a hollow shell. Maybe it makes sense for Iris (if Kaori is really that mindfucking) but as of anything before Karen no.

go to the discord and criticize jessicas design and then come back and tell me there aren't camps i was being flamed for months because I voiced my opinion about the art direction bo went now everyone has its own tastes so why can't people respect mine? I don't like fat girls and abnormal bodies where the head is tiny compared to the rest of the body it just looks weird. also for the love of god stop with the ''jessica is not fat'' she has at least 40% bodyfat and im being nice here which counts as being morbidly obese

Tbh you tend to voice your Jessica hate in a way that comes off as shaming (this not even a term I use lightly mind you) and kind of gatekeepy(?) (I'm struggling to find the right word here). I often ignore these posts mostly because either they are kind of funny or just feel too whiny to respond to.

It's weird how every time you specifically go this hard after Jessica and a war errupts. Yet the moment I criticized Iris all I got was a facepalm and everyone moved on. It kind of goes to show how too critical you can be at times. I can agree that Bo's art can be very wonky, inconsistent, and even lazy at points (Character design not withstanding). but you really do take it to a whole new level that's literally asking to get flamed. I'm sure everyone on this forum respects your tastes (I mean everyone here excepts those that like the scat aspect of tot) but I guess with how hard you go off on Jessica it comes off as you not respecting theirs. Then you occasionally get defensive when your actions come full circle or even slightly goes in the direction you don't want it to.

Even then, Jessica is literally in the minority of Boda Domns as there were barely any BBW even before Heelfall added 2 more. The only other option was megan from Warrior guild but ew her TUFF Puppy Chameleon eyes still haunt me. Even then, I'd still say that Jessica is the "skinniest" out of all of them. The only reason I bring this up was because you were talking about representation when some people weren't a fan of lily being dominated but the second a group that wanted something finally get represented you unceremoniously bash it and the fans to a degree that has them calling you out on an occasional basis.

This isn't me trying to attack you it's just an observation overall.

 

[marcoverrati45]

Mega

I swr to god boy that i love you so much

 

[YugataKisu]

Tbh you tend to voice your Jessica hate in a way that comes off as shaming (this not even a term I use lightly mind you) and kind of gatekeepy(?) (I'm struggling to find the right word here). I often ignore these posts mostly because either they are kind of funny or just feel too whiny to respond to.

It's weird how every time you specifically go this hard after Jessica and a war errupts. Yet the moment I criticized Iris all I got was a facepalm and everyone moved on. It kind of goes to show how too critical you can be at times. I can agree that Bo's art can be very wonky, inconsistent, and even lazy at points (Character design not withstanding). but you really do take it to a whole new level that's literally asking to get flamed. I'm sure everyone on this forum respects your tastes (I mean everyone here excepts those that like the scat aspect of tot) but I guess with how hard you go off on Jessica it comes off as you not respecting theirs. Then you occasionally get defensive when your actions come full circle or even slightly goes in the direction you don't want it to.

Even then, Jessica is literally in the minority of Boda Domns as there were barely any BBW even before Heelfall added 2 more. The only other option was megan from Warrior guild but ew her TUFF Puppy Chameleon eyes still haunt me. Even then, I'd still say that Jessica is the "skinniest" out of all of them. The only reason I bring this up was because you were talking about representation when some people weren't a fan of lily being dominated but the second a group that wanted something finally get represented you unceremoniously bash it and the fans to a degree that has them calling you out on an occasional basis.

This isn't me trying to attack you it's just an observation overall.

ok, I will agree with everything you have said BUT I need people to finally admit that jessica is in fact fat
that's all I ever wanted and afterwards I will never bring her up again, I said this so many times that I lost count.
calling Lily a Stick when shes already quite decently proportioned and denying that Jessica Is fat. that's literally a mental illness, that's body dysmorphia.

and as long people don't view jessica for what she is i will continue my war and i will never lay this topic to rest

EDIT: also it's really fun to me

 

[LittleQueen]

ok i will agree with all of this BUT I want people to finally admit that jessica is fat
that's all i want i will never bring her up again that's all i ever wanted i said it so many times i lost count
calling Lily a Stick and Jessica not fat that's mental illness, that's body dysmorphia

and as long people don't view jessica for what she is i will continue my war

You are ridiculous, I will start by believing that you are grossophobic. I'm a girl, and this type of comment over and over again about weight is really shameful. Let people appreciate the girls in this game for who they are, and if you're really not a fan of Jessica don't use her ticket to meet her, it's that easy. I don't know why you make it a personal story, I find that pathetic.

Why do you absolutely want people to agree with you? You don't care, you don't like Jessica, that's fine, I don't like Rose's design, that doesn't mean I'm going to go bother the Rose fans. You have to know how to accept the opinions of others and divergent opinions.

 

[Truemourne]

Inazuma update bruh too much content will have it done soon *pickaxe emoji*

Didn't know you played GI.
List your top 10 waifus and if they don't appease me I'm looting your World

 

[YugataKisu]

You are ridiculous, I will start by believing that you are grossophobic. I'm a girl, and this type of comment over and over again about weight is really shameful. Let people appreciate the girls in this game for who they are, and if you're really not a fan of Jessica don't use her ticket to meet her, it's that easy. I don't know why you make it a personal story, I find that pathetic.

Why do you absolutely want people to agree with you? You don't care, you don't like Jessica, that's fine, I don't like Rose's design, that doesn't mean I'm going to go bother the Rose fans. You have to know how to accept the opinions of others and divergent opinions.

I'm a girl too so don't try this bs with me
and as a girl it bothers me when people call girls that workout, eat healthy and care about their apperance get called ''sticks'' by these people but fat female ronald mcdonald is a goddess. stop it

and yes im most definitely grossophobic. as i think people should strive for a healthy life and i will never enable overweigh people to stay how they are go on a diet and workout
im also against drugs, alcohol and smoking so why is it such a big deal that im also against stuffing your face with fast food?

Didn't know you played GI.
List your top 10 waifus and if they don't appease me I'm looting your World

SSS. Raiden Shogun
1. Eula
2. Beidou
3. Ayaka
4. Jean
5. Ninguang
6. Hu Tao
7. Sucrose
8. Fischl
9. Mona
10. idk maybe that brown girl

 

[LittleQueen]

I'm a girl too so don't try this bs with me
and as a girl it bothers me when people call girls that workout, eat healthy and care about their apperance get called ''sticks'' by these people but fat female ronald mcdonald is a goddess. stop it

and yes im most definitely grossophobic. as i think people should strive for a healthy life and i will never enable overweigh people to stay how they are go on a diet and workout
im also against drugs, alcohol and smoking so why is it such a big deal that im also against stuffing your face with fast food?

The problem is the way you express yourself, you are disrespectful in your words and hurtful. The hatred you have for overweight people, you can keep it to yourself, you don't have to communicate it to others. We all play this game for fun and have a good time, and we are not on this forum to participate in your ridiculous war against the characters you call "fat". I am not one of the overweight people, I am thin, but the words you convey are toxic and in my opinion have nothing to do here. You can express your opinion without being insulting. It is extremely unpleasant to read this hatred that you convey with every message, and I do not remember having seen a similar drama during the period when you were away.

And besides, your words are quite serious in view of the society in which we live, which constantly promulgated a feminine ideal which makes many girls feel bad.

 

[Truemourne]

SSS. Raiden Shogun
1. Eula
2. Beidou
3. Ayaka
4. Jean
5. Ninguang
6. Hu Tao
7. Sucrose
8. Fischl
9. Mona
10. idk maybe that brown girl

I like your list, I personally love Fischl but other than that it's spot on. Raiden is definitely in a tier of her own and Eula is top notch. I'm not too sold on Ayaka yet ( I actually got her ) but I love her Voice actress , Hayami Saori voicing anything is always amazing. I'm surprised you didn't include Sara, she seems top tier too .

 

[YugataKisu]

The problem is the way you express yourself, you are disrespectful in your words and hurtful. The hatred you have for overweight people, you can keep it to yourself, you don't have to communicate it to others. We all play this game for fun and have a good time, and we are not on this forum to participate in your ridiculous war against the characters you call "fat". I am not one of the overweight people, I am thin, but the words you convey are toxic and in my opinion have nothing to do here. You can express your opinion without being insulting. It is extremely unpleasant to read this hatred that you convey with every message, and I do not remember having seen a similar drama during the period when you were away.

And besides, your words are quite serious in view of the society in which we live which constantly promulgated a feminine ideal which makes many girls complex.

ok im gonna go think about these words someone said to me that i totally read in its entirety in a forum for pirated porn games and reflect upon myself and my past behaviour.

jk FAT PEOPLE BAD

now before our ''im a girl'' hobby psychologist continues her monologue let me change the topic.

could anyone tell me what has been bugfixed in 1.0.3? been playin 1.0.1 and i didn't see any problems.
also before i dig in deeper into iris could someone tell me if the scat is optional or not?

I like your list, I personally love Fischl but other than that it's spot on. Raiden is definitely in a tier of her own and Eula is top notch. I'm not too sold on Ayaka yet ( I actually got her ) but I love her Voice actress , Hayami Saori voicing anything is always amazing. I'm surprised you didn't include Sara, she seems top tier too .

man i remember when the game first came out and everyone was putting fischl into the godtier even tho oz is the only thing you need from her is oz. but i love the different length nylons thing shes got going on i liked that with alisa on tekken as well. also how could i forget sara im so mad that she's only a 4 star shes definitely one of the top tier waifus for sure. i got ayaka to lv 90 today and her abilities all to lv8 she's definitely not at hu tao's or ganyu's level in terms of dmg but she's up there also i prefer ayaka because she actually makes you use your entire teams rotation to pop off. and ofc based vergil from dmc charge attack

 

[Truemourne]

man i remember when the game first came out and everyone was putting fischl into the godtier even tho oz is the only thing you need from her is oz. but i love the different length nylons thing shes got going on i liked that with alisa on tekken as well. also how could i forget sara im so mad that she's only a 4 star shes definitely one of the top tier waifus for sure. i got ayaka to lv 90 today and her abilities all to lv8 she's definitely not at hu tao's or ganyu's level in terms of dmg but she's up there also i prefer ayaka because she actually makes you use your entire teams rotation to pop off. and ofc based vergil from dmc charge attack

Wait, Sara is a 4*? That's actually fantastic news for me tbh because I can't afford both her and Raiden but if she's a 4* then I can get both which is all I really want from Inazuma tbh.

Idk, Ayaka's playstyle is a bit weird for me personally, like I want to like her but it just seems a bit messy if you get what I mean.

 

[CNR25]

Yugata if you are against alcohol, fast food etc... Don't play GACHA GAMES.

Nah seriously guys i wonder how this kind of game are appreciated. Besides the gacha stuff it's so empty...

 

[YugataKisu]

I like your list, I personally love Fischl but other than that it's spot on. Raiden is definitely in a tier of her own and Eula is top notch. I'm not too sold on Ayaka yet ( I actually got her ) but I love her Voice actress , Hayami Saori voicing anything is always amazing. I'm surprised you didn't include Sara, she seems top tier too .

Yugata if you are against alcohol, fast food etc... Don't play GACHA GAMES.

Nah seriously guys i wonder how this kind of game are appreciated. Besides the gacha stuff it's so empty...

honestly i only pay 20€ a month and i got a stacked account gaccha games reward you for being patient you only need to spend big money if you are unpatient. im a huge powerplay fan i just love making the strongest possible characters and teamcomps get the most op equipment, its why i loved divinity 2 so much GI is certaintley not for everybody because once you done with all the content you'll just do your dailies and wait for an update

Wait, Sara is a 4*? That's actually fantastic news for me tbh because I can't afford both her and Raiden but if she's a 4* then I can get both which is all I really want from Inazuma tbh.

Idk, Ayaka's playstyle is a bit weird for me personally, like I want to like her but it just seems a bit messy if you get what I mean.

2.1 first banner will be raiden followed by kokomi (5 star) and sara
i really wish sara would be on raidens banner so i'd have a chance to C6 sara

ayaka needs xinqui or however you spell it perma freeze is so damn fun paired with a albedo and bennett and you just shit on everyone in the abyss

but enough about genshin impact this is very offtopic
still waiting for someone to tell me if the scat is optional in 8F

 

[donkus]

still waiting for someone to tell me if the scat is optional in 8F

It's optional, provided that you don't lose to the move that leads to it, or you can just completely skip the pee pool, so you don't have to deal with it all.

 

[nicknicola]

YugataKisu There are ways and ways to say things.
I'm with you in that first world countries have a problem with obesity and people not doing exercise, eating junk, bad habits, BUT...

There is a miriad of factors why that happens, and is really silly and simplistic to blame only one individual. My brother is a nutritionist and always talks with me about this issue and one of the main reasons:
If you go to a supermarket, is fucking overflowing with bad options for your health.

Why poor people have in proportion more overweight people? Why more and more kids are overweight or even obese? (The probability that those obese kids will be obese in their future is really high) Fast food is the cheapest option almost always, the fastest to eat (in a world that seems in a hurry) and the more tasteful because they overflow your taste with sugar, salt or other things (Also, people abuse of red meat consumption and not conceive that some days you can substitute them with legumes for protein intake). And not surprisingly, they are the ones with more publicity on tv and better potitioning in supermarkets. You will rarely see advertisement of fruits and vegetables.

You obviously can change your eating habits, and do exercise, but it's damn hard to change that, and more so when you have to work a lot of hours and are simply tired. It can even be related to mental health, because maybe you developed eating food as a cope mechanism for anxiety.

And in a way, I am not entitely on board with the Body positive movement; if you are overweight or obese, or dont do exercise you should try to change that to live a happier and longer life. But making someone feel guilty because of her weight is going to achieve nothing.

Education as always place a big role in this.
Children should be taught how to eat healthy and add exercise habits daily in their lifes so they replicate them in the future. More people should have access to public nutrionionist and food like vegetables, fruits and the like should be cheaper, the goverment should do something about the products of companies that worsen the health of people, like fried them with taxes so they are not that cheap anymore and therefore people would consume them less. If it were me I'd ban all the sweets, cocacola, Mcdonalds...

I would make a dictatorship based on healthy food and water for everyone, and build a tower of fitness

 

[Cradhpez]

Him being a schizo, isn't a reason for acting like you are on your personal blog. The thing to do what guy like him is to ignore them completly, you just have to not answer their ranting. At some point they usually give up when they realize that nobody give a shit about them.

 

[Holefiller]

I'm a girl too so don't try this bs with me

I'm a girl, and this type of comment over and over again about weight is really shameful.

you two should just do a little more training and this problem will sort itself out.

 

[GoddessKyoko]

10 pages of wills talking shit that nobody cares why they don't create a telegram group and go chat there? make it impossible to see anything related to the game in this thread. shit

 

[blufalcon]

Somehow the main game thread is more off-topic than the off-topic game thread.

To shift back into the game, let's talk about lore.
Are the floor bosses organized by strength canonically? Like Scarlett is weaker than Yvonne who is weaker than Eliza etc?
Is it generally like that or are there exceptions? Because I slightly recall reading something in-game about Karen being really powerful and her floor being more like a playroom she occasionally visits or something, but it's been a very long time since I've done 7f.

Also stop giving these girls giant boobs and then never doing anything with them.