Toxic Attraction DonSilver #Cuckold 8muses forum

[Navy_Sailor]

My problem with him writing to those "paypigs" (going to remember that phrase for a very long time, thank you, very much) is that they get stuck in this idea that the only good story is Dan and Sarah using Lester as a marital aid and making their marriage stronger and stronger each month. They have no concept of what a dark story is and I gave up trying to remind them months ago. I don't mind if they do end up together, as long as story leads everything. I think, at least here, the majority of readers seems to be looking for a good story and Don had that for awhile and even seemed to have an idea of the long term goals for said story. However, he also seems to have lost that due to any myriad of possible writer's issues. Write an outline, use some index cards and be willing to have some flexibility. Just remember, let the story lead you, not the readers, not the characters, and most importantly not your dick. At an older age, I returned to video games. The last time i played one it was in an arcade but then Rock Band had the Beatles and I love the Beatles, so I bought a PS3 because it was also a blu-ray player. Then I discovered all the great story lines out there. Through three to four iterations of said console I have followed loyally as the greatest original stories around these days are in video games and not movies, television or even books. I write and have a film degree and I find that when I am stuck or wrung out of ideas and direction I play a game with a really good story. A writer needs to find that support mechanism that aids him or her in the journey that is the narrative, maybe Don just needs that.

Just my opinion, take it for what its worth, but I definitely haven't given up here based on a few stumbles by Don, when I know that he has the ability to straighten himself out and right the so-called ship.

Salient point, Psiber. As an old man myself, I understand where you are coming from. I have played games like WoW for 15+ years, and then BG3 came along. Now that is story writing! Perhaps Don should take a step back, take a deep cleansing breath and get away for a month, just to get recharged. Find something like gaming, or fishing or even, watching NASCAR. Something to help set the ship to rights. In the end, it is his story, and where it goes is his choice. Right from the start he said it will be dark. And it has begun that path.

 

[Chillie_Willie]

My problem with him writing to those "paypigs" (going to remember that phrase for a very long time, thank you, very much) is that they get stuck in this idea that the only good story is Dan and Sarah using Lester as a marital aid and making their marriage stronger and stronger each month. They have no concept of what a dark story is and I gave up trying to remind them months ago. I don't mind if they do end up together, as long as story leads everything. I think, at least here, the majority of readers seems to be looking for a good story and Don had that for awhile and even seemed to have an idea of the long term goals for said story. However, he also seems to have lost that due to any myriad of possible writer's issues. Write an outline, use some index cards and be willing to have some flexibility. Just remember, let the story lead you, not the readers, not the characters, and most importantly not your dick. At an older age, I returned to video games. The last time i played one it was in an arcade but then Rock Band had the Beatles and I love the Beatles, so I bought a PS3 because it was also a blu-ray player. Then I discovered all the great story lines out there. Through three to four iterations of said console I have followed loyally as the greatest original stories around these days are in video games and not movies, television or even books. I write and have a film degree and I find that when I am stuck or wrung out of ideas and direction I play a game with a really good story. A writer needs to find that support mechanism that aids him or her in the journey that is the narrative, maybe Don just needs that.

Just my opinion, take it for what its worth, but I definitely haven't given up here based on a few stumbles by Don, when I know that he has the ability to straighten himself out and right the so-called ship.

Good insight into the creative mind Psiber. The early chapters showed Don had a good support system in place. As we question Sarah going from housewife to slut, no one can suddenly go from being a good writer to bad one in a short span. What has changed besides his bank account? Was Grandeman (who Don acknowledges lately) part of Don’s early creative process? Don is human and even the best writers could get overwhelmed at multi-tasking. Don has currently rotating between 3 to 4 stories while trying to work a 9-5 job, have a personal life, and keep creative writing going. That takes a lot of discipline while meeting these tight deadlines he sets each month. When does it reach a breaking point of maybe too much and I may need to dial it back. Again I really do hope Don‘s support system is not intrinsically tied these paid shills and he turns it around.

 

[Snafu4977]

It's purely financial now, he's creating scenarios and characters to stretch out the story based on the loudest voices of his incel crowd of patreon insiders !
One even suggested Lester should parade Sarah around naked except for heels, a collar and leash at some sort of comicon event.
I mean how would that fit in with the original character profiles he developed.

He could've wrapped up TA a few chapters ago and had a great story, he could've then used all the extra storylines and characters he's squeezed in to start new stories.

There are more characters in TA than the Marvel universe, Don has them all hanging waiting to be used whenever he needs extra scenes to satisfy his fanboys.

 

[Chillie_Willie]

”There are more characters in TA than the Marvel universe, Don has them all hanging waiting to be used whenever he needs extra scenes to satisfy his fanboys.”


That made me sensible chuckle Snafu

and geez don’t sound like the Toxic Attraction Discord comments make for pleasurable reading, especially for Sarah

 

[SmartMan]

It's purely financial now, he's creating scenarios and characters to stretch out the story based on the loudest voices of his incel crowd of patreon insiders !
One even suggested Lester should parade Sarah around naked except for heels, a collar and leash at some sort of comicon event.

That gave me a laugh, I distinctly recall reading that. The comments are always trending towards stupid with anything related to pornography but the 'insider' paypig class seemed to be rife with genuinely mentally challenged people. I can't decide if it's sexually frustrated individuals or old men who have been reading erotica since the 60's where that kind of shit was more common, and for some reason desirable or erotic...

Don making his stories into one large 'porniverse' is also very unusual to me. It doesn't make the stories feel better written or connected it just makes them all feel like different colors of the same slop.

 

[Chillie_Willie]

That gave me a laugh, I distinctly recall reading that. The comments are always trending towards stupid with anything related to pornography but the 'insider' paypig class seemed to be rife with genuinely mentally challenged people. I can't decide if it's incels or old men who have been reading erotica since the 60's where that kind of shit was more common, and for some reason desirable or erotic...

Don making his stories into one large 'porniverse' is also very unusual to me. It doesn't make the stories feel better written or connected it just makes them all feel like different colors of the same slop.

Wow I knew kinks comes in all types, but definitely an eye opener. Definitely sounds like Don wants to oblige men who have a deep rooted hatred towards women or never been in a meaningful relationship. Again makes me question what is going on in Don’s life from then to now Don stated this story was going to be dark and if you look at Sarah crossing the line of fidelity and vows to their husband and there is no going back. She is definitely traveling down a dark lonely road as a cheating wife. And the realization what she will lose once Dan wakes up and presses the eject button.

 

[Snafu4977]

The extra sex scene between Sarah and Lester that Don tagged onto chapter 20 was clearly because of requests for more content.

I re read the previous chapters and in the established time line Don had set out, there was no way it could of happened.
You cant add 4000 words without at least trying to tie it all in within the already written content.

Clearly he has relinquished some control of the story's direction to paying customers.

 

[Psiber@mauvais]

The extra sex scene between Sarah and Lester that Don tagged onto chapter 20 was clearly because of requests for more content.

I re read the previous chapters and in the established time line Don had set out, there was no way it could of happened.
You cant add 4000 words without at least trying to tie it all in within the already written content.

Clearly he has relinquished some control of the story's direction to paying customers.

That's a damn shame and goes back to what I said about story. It means so little to so many any more...well, thank God for video games.

 

[Snafu4977]

I am hoping someone posts my neighbor chapter 10 soon !

 

[Chillie_Willie]

The extra sex scene between Sarah and Lester that Don tagged onto chapter 20 was clearly because of requests for more content.

I re read the previous chapters and in the established time line Don had set out, there was no way it could of happened.
You cant add 4000 words without at least trying to tie it all in within the already written content.

Clearly he has relinquished some control of the story's direction to paying customers.

Wow learning a little bit more insight each time from you Snafu. Don‘s is catering to the loudest voices with the biggest financial support consequences or repercussions be damn. Kind of sounds like one of his characters at the moment. i.e. Sarah. The add on scenes in the previous chapter felt like an afterthought and the timeline was off especially now with the insight Snafu provided. All we can do is wait and see what the next chapters will entail for the group

 

[Chillie_Willie]

With the unsure direction of Toxic Attraction I stumbled on the writings of Midsmale69 “Life Begins at” quite good. Currently has three chapters uploaded on Literotica. The overtones are similar to Toxic Attraction: an older, except handsome perverted store owner and a 40 year old wife/mother with two daughters. Thought I might share with the audience

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[Psiber@mauvais]

I appreciate the heads up Chillie, but I think for me, I am more into

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and other stories like that and what I hope Don is heading toward. I admit that as a fetish (and fetish only, as the real thing sucks beyond all compare) I found a few years ago that I have a predilection toward betrayal. I love the stories I mentioned and even sway so far as the occasional fan-fiction for Harry Potter where Hermione betrays Harry and joins Voldemort, even with him wanting her kind dead; the betrayal exists on so many levels when written well. (BTW: no sex is necessary for me in that type of story, it is truly the betrayal. Don was writing it well and has started a descent that he will hopefully see and admit to and fix it, but the added scene from Chapter 20 (which I just re-read last night, after what you guys said about it) is the only part I really like. Sarah admitting that Lester is a better fuck than her husband, while also admitting that she has never really lusted after Dan like she does for Lester. Of all the things, she tells Lester -- who hates her husband, and she knows it -- that she has never craved Dan like she does Lester and that she has never gotten as wet just thinking about Dan, like she does with Lester. Fuck. Imagine Dan's face if he ever saw that video at that moment, or when she basically agrees with Lester's assessment of who gives a shit about Dan and his opinion on all of this. I realize you say things during sex, but Sarah tends to be more truthful when she is drunk on sex with Lester, kind of like a drunk...less ability to watch what she is saying, less self-monitoring of that verbal diarrhea that we all regret the next hung over morning. That is the betrayal I love to read but would never wish on anyone.

 

[Sermex67]

The Wardens Wife fantastic series

 

[Chillie_Willie]

I have read the wardens wife series as well

 

[Psiber@mauvais]

I have read the wardens wife series as well

Yeah, sorry Chillie, I didn't realize until later that I basically shit all over your post. i am really sorry about that, I intended no disrespect.

 

[Vjpeter]

Don silver should introduce, Lester sister',, she is forcing his brother( Lester)to marry, she visit them at Chicago apartment, there she see Lester n Sarah, she assumes them as couples and dan was introduced as roommate and her sister will flirt with Dan and ask are you married, suddenly Sarah gonna reply yes, he is single n handsome n so on and some sex scene among his sis n dan, and Lester n Sarah (maybe a small wedding set up n sex) infront of dan.... Hope don silver take this plot to spice up the things or to end the story line

 

[Chillie_Willie]

Yeah, sorry Chillie, I didn't realize until later that I basically shit all over your post. i am really sorry about that, I intended no disrespect.

No need to apologize Psiber no offense taken. We all good Psiber. I like The Warden‘s Wife if it’s the one I’m thinking about

 

[Chillie_Willie]

Don silver should introduce, Lester sister',, she is forcing his brother( Lester)to marry, she visit them at Chicago apartment, there she see Lester n Sarah, she assumes them as couples and dan was introduced as roommate and her sister will flirt with Dan and ask are you married, suddenly Sarah gonna reply yes, he is single n handsome n so on and some sex scene among his sis n dan, and Lester n Sarah (maybe a small wedding set up n sex) infront of dan.... Hope don silver take this plot to spice up the things or to end the story line

Interesting take I haven’t thought of Vjpeter. A sister’s involvement would ground Sarah from the perch she is on now. Sarah‘s jealousy and need to impress was apparent with Lizzie in the picture. Now with Lizzie gone Sarah’s overall demeanor has changed with Lester. This would add a new dynamic and level of tension sorely missed in the recent chapters. Think of the spin offs Don could tackle later as well. What was Lester childhood like: always a pervert or did his sister have a hand? So many different scenarios could be created with this introduction.

 

[Chillie_Willie]

“Sarah admitting that Lester is a better fuck than her husband, while also admitting that she has never really lusted after Dan like she does for Lester. Of all the things, she tells Lester -- who hates her husband, and she knows it -- that she has never craved Dan like she does Lester and that she has never gotten as wet just thinking about Dan, like she does with Lester. Fuck. Imagine Dan's face if he ever saw that video at that moment, or when she basically agrees with Lester's assessment of who gives a shit about Dan and his opinion on all of this. I realize you say things during sex, but Sarah tends to be more truthful when she is drunk on sex with Lester, kind of like a drunk...less ability to watch what she is saying, less self-monitoring of that verbal diarrhea that we all regret the next hung over morning. That is the betrayal I love to read but would never wish on anyone.”



I love her real feelings during the throes of passionate sex with Lester, I just wish Sarah would express those same feeling when ”sober”. I guess until Lester figures a way to tear down that wall her true feelings, desires, and thoughts remain hidden. I feeling any advancement What we know is Sarah is an interesting study of dichotomy. When alone, Sarah has thoughts about Lester and their connection, but at the same time thinks Lester is beneath her. Sarah also is quick to defend and express sympathy for Lester if anyone else besides her looks down or makes fun of him. I can remember one scene where Sarah had a genuine moment with Lester. It was after their D&D coupling in Lester’s room where she says you are a beast. I hope to see more in the future

 

[Loredanasmntt]

Does anyone have my neighbour chapter 10 by antartica77 ?