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[Chillie_Willie]

what’s your prediction?

Do you believe chat when they predict Ch. 27 is when the fireworks start popping off OR do you think the Don will continue to slowly roll the story along till Ch.30?

I see Toxic Attraction holding on like a hair on a biscuit until Don develops a viable replacement.Do you see potential in Neighborhood Encounter. I‘m intrigued to see how the Burt, Clara and Adam dynamics plays out after the events of Ch.3. The story has potential to be interesting and very dark for certain characters. Remember Don has a short story in development about the female undercover agent that could have potential.

 

[Psiber@mauvais]

Agreed Psiber, there is so much we don't know that it's hard to make heads or tails of what is really going on - too many branches to that tree of thought. Example: Jessie, in the beginning I thought he was just a narrative tool to give a plausible premise as to why Lester/Sarah finally have sex. I'm thinking he's served his purpose to the story and should go away, but he doesn't he comes back in Ch15 and 24, but now his purpose is to punish Dan. Okay, now he can go away, but once again he comes back in 26, and his new purpose seems to be building towards a stalker/lovesick psychopath which DS can now use to either create more conflict or (hopefully he doesn't repeat himself) do harm to one or all three of the main characters.

Otis is shaping up to be a new Jessie, he could be a narrative tool for reasons we don't understand yet, or it could be as some say, DS throwing the paying fans a bone, or letting them guide the story (which I hope isn't true).

I'm right there with you on your point about Lester's attitude about Sarah - from ch1-25 Lester's character has been developed as one who obsessed over having Sarah for himself. Yes he has "shared" Sarah on a few occasions, but they served the purpose of humiliating Dan or showing Dan that Lester was a better Stag. Ch26 has thrown those previous character traits out the window - with hints and innuendos about pimping Sarah out - which leaves us shaking our heads at the departure from the character that Lester was built from.

I shared this with Chillie privately but I'm leaning towards DS doesn't want to part with his beloved characters, understandable that he's put this much time and energy into a story, that it's hard to let go of them. Which means (should have said which leads me to believe) he's now manufacturing different avenues and side plots to help the story stay alive.

I do have one more avenue that Jessie may drive down on narrative avenue: Jessie is a stalker, bound to get rid of anyone in his way, but as he confront Sarah in her house, Lester sneaks in and gets the drop on him, hurting/killing Jessie. He saves Sarah while Dan is not at home (where Sarah believes he belongs as he 1) introduced Jessie into their lives, due to his own stupidity in thinking he was better than he was, 2) wasn't good enough to hold a job at home, where he belonged, and was instead stuck in Chicago in Lester's apartment not able to keep steady pay coming in and too concentrated in bringing Lester down, who doesn't even -- in her mind -- deserve that treatment as right now he is at least three times the man her weak, pathetic husband is. Ironically enough, Lester, instead of being in his own apartment is here saving her job, their house, keeping Dan from being homeless, and saving Sarah's life from Dan's crazy colleagues.
I am vacillating between hurt or kill, as both make Sarah grateful to Lester, opening her up top a full on relationship with Lester, while pushing Dan away. However, one just sends Jessie to jail and that's it. The other has Lester really fearful as he has killed someone and now is afraid of prison. Sarah tells him he is her hero and she suggests they get rid of the body, together. Then they are linked in covering up a crime together, putting them even closer together. Who knows, they could even frame Dan, as they have done things like this to people in the hospital and are now thicker than thieves.

 

[Ndbaelor]

Would have been nice if Sarah went up to him and kissed him after she caught him recording. That's a better ending to the chapter

Almost like her reporting back to her boss about completing the job!

“And you could even look at it as a promotion. Now you don’t have to do any work besides getting fucked by me. Isn’t that great? Getting paid to get fucked?”

I had a different reaction when I read that line. My favorite chapters of the series are when Sarah had to pretend to be someone (a bride, a gf, a fiancee). Something about a strong, emotionally mature, successful woman playing a different role for a man beneath her league tickles me a lot. So I thought this might lead to a reverse "Pretty woman" situation where Sarah have to role play as a hooker at Lester's room. Their last roleplay was during his fake birthday when they did the breeding fantasy. I thought it would be even hotter if she herself came up with that idea. I didn't think about him pimping her at all. Also if he did that it will ironically make HIM the cuck in that situation, don't you think?

 

[Ndbaelor]

I do have one more avenue that Jessie may drive down on narrative avenue: Jessie is a stalker, bound to get rid of anyone in his way, but as he confront Sarah in her house, Lester sneaks in and gets the drop on him, hurting/killing Jessie. He saves Sarah while Dan is not at home

By "drop on him", I could only imagine Lester literally crushing him to death by accidentally falling on him. Old Arbuckle style!

 

[Verisimilinude]

I do have one more avenue that Jessie may drive down on narrative avenue: Jessie is a stalker, bound to get rid of anyone in his way, but as he confront Sarah in her house, Lester sneaks in and gets the drop on him, hurting/killing Jessie. He saves Sarah while Dan is not at home (where Sarah believes he belongs as he 1) introduced Jessie into their lives, due to his own stupidity in thinking he was better than he was, 2) wasn't good enough to hold a job at home, where he belonged, and was instead stuck in Chicago in Lester's apartment not able to keep steady pay coming in and too concentrated in bringing Lester down, who doesn't even -- in her mind -- deserve that treatment as right now he is at least three times the man her weak, pathetic husband is. Ironically enough, Lester, instead of being in his own apartment is here saving her job, their house, keeping Dan from being homeless, and saving Sarah's life from Dan's crazy colleagues.
I am vacillating between hurt or kill, as both make Sarah grateful to Lester, opening her up top a full on relationship with Lester, while pushing Dan away. However, one just sends Jessie to jail and that's it. The other has Lester really fearful as he has killed someone and now is afraid of prison. Sarah tells him he is her hero and she suggests they get rid of the body, together. Then they are linked in covering up a crime together, putting them even closer together. Who knows, they could even frame Dan, as they have done things like this to people in the hospital and are now thicker than thieves.

Hmm, you're right that is an avenue I hadn't considered for Jessie. I think what you've laid out has a lot of plausibility and fits the characters motives. Where I will deviate is on the killing Jessie and Sarah helping him cover it up. I think that's a bridge too far for Sarah, especially if her daughters were home at the time. I don't think Sarah is so far gone in her adDICKtion that she would stoop that low. I also don't think Lester would kill him, have others do it possibly, but not himself, it would expose him and I don't think he wants that.

 

[Verisimilinude]

Almost like her reporting back to her boss about completing the job!


I had a different reaction when I read that line. My favorite chapters of the series are when Sarah had to pretend to be someone (a bride, a gf, a fiancée). Something about a strong, emotionally mature, successful woman playing a different role for a man beneath her league tickles me a lot. So I thought this might lead to a reverse "Pretty woman" situation where Sarah have to role play as a hooker at Lester's room. Their last roleplay was during his fake birthday when they did the breeding fantasy. I thought it would be even hotter if she herself came up with that idea. I didn't think about him pimping her at all. Also if he did that it will ironically make HIM the cuck in that situation, don't you think?

I see what you're saying that in her mind it's roleplay and would be a nice role reversal. I guess for me it was the word choices that DS used that made it seem Lester was being mean spirited, almost venomous vs his normal possessiveness. I agree with your last sentence, that's why it felt so out of character for Lester - at least for me.

 

[nitinjozef]

I don't think Lester would murder Jessie or Sarah is too far gone to cover up a murder. But i do think Jessie is going to cause trouble for Sarah because of his obsession with her and it will be Lester who saves her from him. That would work as a catalyst for Sarah finally accepting Lester as her primary mate. From then on, the gap between her and Dan is going to widen until there's no other option but for them to go their separate ways. At some point, Sarah is going to realize how wrong she was about Lester when she learns everything he's done, but then it would already be too late for her to go back to her old life. She'll have no choice but learn to enjoy the wild, uninhibited whorish life with or without Lester. I don't think Lester is going to be Sarah's ever after love, just someone who introduced her to a life that was so different from her suburban wife and mother, and helped her embrace her true wild sexual nature. Sarah is never going to let go of that side of her, no matter who she ends up with.

 

[Verisimilinude]

what’s your prediction?

Do you believe chat when they predict Ch. 27 is when the fireworks start popping off OR do you think the Don will continue to slowly roll the story along till Ch.30?

I see Toxic Attraction holding on like a hair on a biscuit until Don develops a viable replacement. Do you see potential in Neighborhood Encounter. I‘m intrigued to see how the Burt, Clara and Adam dynamics plays out after the events of Ch.3. The story has potential to be interesting and very dark for certain characters. Remember Don has a short story in development about the female undercover agent that could have potential.

I think it's time DS started thinking about landing the plane, but I feel he needs a lot more chapters to tie up loose ends, resolve story payoffs he's promised, to make it a successful landing.

I'm lukewarm on NE at the moment - hopeful skepticism I guess is what I'd call it. I'll follow until I'm given a reason not to.

 

[Verisimilinude]

I don't think Lester would murder Jessie or Sarah is too far gone to cover up a murder. But i do think Jessie is going to cause trouble for Sarah because of his obsession with her and it will be Lester who saves her from him. That would work as a catalyst for Sarah finally accepting Lester as her primary mate. From then on, the gap between her and Dan is going to widen until there's no other option but for them to go their separate ways. At some point, Sarah is going to realize how wrong she was about Lester when she learns everything he's done, but then it would already be too late for her to go back to her old life. She'll have no choice but learn to enjoy the wild, uninhibited whorish life with or without Lester. I don't think Lester is going to be Sarah's ever after love, just someone who introduced her to a life that was so different from her suburban wife and mother, and helped her embrace her true wild sexual nature. Sarah is never going to let go of that side of her, no matter who she ends up with.

I'm in line with your thinking of how the series will likely go, but I have to ask - where is the dark ending?

 

[idkmanerally]

here's a good dark ending: lester finally steals sarah, and on the first night of their new life together, he has a heart attack and dies, so she ashamedly goes back to dan, and the final scene is dan wondering if they should get another roommate

 

[nitinjozef]

I'm in line with your thinking of how the series will likely go, but I have to ask - where is the dark ending?

Don might spend the last part of the finale writing about how far Sarah has fallen from the confident professional, wife and mother she was. About how far she'll go to get her deviant sexual fix. Sarah who was once respected by her peers and family would be shocked to see her transform into a slut. You never know, Don might even write a spinoff about her sexcapades in the future.

 

[Verisimilinude]

here's a good dark ending: Lester finally steals Sarah, and on the first night of their new life together, he has a heart attack and dies, so she ashamedly goes back to Dan, and the final scene is Dan wondering if they should get another roommate

I don't know weather to snort with laughter or shake my head. You have a unique brand of sarcasm - and I mean that in a nice way. The more I think about it maybe you aren't being sarcastic - that theory fits the story and characters, I wouldn't call it dark but it's logical. A hard reset of the story and now Dan gets to open Pandora's box up all over again.

 

[Verisimilinude]

Don might spend the last part of the finale writing about how far Sarah has fallen from the confident professional, wife and mother she was. About how far she'll go to get her deviant sexual fix. Sarah who was once respected by her peers and family would be shocked to see her transform into a slut. You never know, Don might even write a spinoff about her sexcapades in the future.

Yeah, but none of those strike me as dark. Maybe that says something about me, idk. I'm not voting for any of these nor suggesting they would happen - but dark for me would be:
1) Jessie going postal and killing all three MCs,
2) Sarah losing everything and ending up on a street corner somewhere (losing her daughters is likely the worst thing that could happen to her, in her mind),
3) Dan finds Lester dead from health issues, in his marital bed, and Sarah crushed to death underneath him,
4) Dan is easy - knowing that Sarah chose Lester over him would be the worst outcome,
5) Lester is the hardest - him dying of health issues isn't dark - he wouldn't have to face any consequences. I guess maybe Dan/Sarah reconciliation - Lester put in all that time and effort to break Sarah and she still chooses Dan?

 

[nitinjozef]

Yeah, but none of those strike me as dark. Maybe that says something about me, idk. I'm not voting for any of these nor suggesting they would happen - but dark for me would be:
1) Jessie going postal and killing all three MCs,
2) Sarah losing everything and ending up on a street corner somewhere (losing her daughters is likely the worst thing that could happen to her, in her mind),
3) Dan finds Lester dead from health issues, in his marital bed, and Sarah crushed to death underneath him,
4) Dan is easy - knowing that Sarah chose Lester over him would be the worst outcome,
5) Lester is the hardest - him dying of health issues isn't dark - he wouldn't have to face any consequences. I guess maybe Dan/Sarah reconciliation - Lester put in all that time and effort to break Sarah and she still chooses Dan?

I'd say No.2 might happen.. but not on a street corner, once Lester is out of her life., she might go on hookup marathon and would eventually find someone truly evil, someone that would put Lester to shame. He could pimp our out, take her to extreme sex clubs, arrange gangbangs. ..etc. And Sarah matches his energy every step of the way..

 

[Psiber@mauvais]

Hmm, you're right that is an avenue I hadn't considered for Jessie. I think what you've laid out has a lot of plausibility and fits the characters motives. Where I will deviate is on the killing Jessie and Sarah helping him cover it up. I think that's a bridge too far for Sarah, especially if her daughters were home at the time. I don't think Sarah is so far gone in her adDICKtion that she would stoop that low. I also don't think Lester would kill him, have others do it possibly, but not himself, it would expose him and I don't think he wants that.

Sorry, should have said that the girls weren't there and Sarah already figured that she might be waiting for Lester, telling him that the girls were at their grandparents tonight and she was all alone. Any possibility of Jessie dying would be accidental...Lester hit him too hard, Lester could not handle seeing Sarah in danger and over-reacted, They struggle and fall into a glass table and a piece of glass stabs Jessie. Sarah would not help like a Bonnie and Clyde kind of thing, it would be more to protect Lester as she sees him really affected by it. Lester means to do a lot of things but not kill someone and Lester might handle it in a bad way, going into shock, for instance. Sarah sees someone she cares for in trouble and protects like Momma Bear. She would have done the same for Dan and some point. If they thought that it was ok for everyone in town to know they had some form of relationship, fine, call the police and it will look like it exactly is. However, if they don't want that getting out, covering up may be their first instinct, either way, Sarah gets to blame Dan for the whole thing, up to and including their daughters possibly being exposed to Jessie due to Dan's horrible instincts and misplaced machismo.

 

[adamblack144]

It is interesting that Lester has no insecurities. He's described as fat and ugly and Sarah calls him a loser but he never reflects on that in his thoughts. With what we know of Lizzie, it seems he's had a lot of success with women. He's so confident he'll fuck Sarah and gets her. Id love to read a backstory in toxic attraction or another series about Lester's past.

 

[powerconti]

Contrary to the prevailing opinion that Lester went against Mary in the meeting to help Sarah, I think he was more likely to have pushed through his own interests.
Because Mary wanted to make it clear that she is the second power in management and that all departments are under her leadership, including IT with IT boss Lester.
If Lester had not reacted, he would have accepted this as a fact, as would all the other department heads of the various departments present, and accepted Mary as the superior manager.

So he had to react and explain how he felt about it, which he did.
So his reaction had nothing whatsoever to do with Sarah!

However, as the naive and ‘cock-driven’ Sarah is no longer able to read the simplest of processes and distinguish apples from oranges, she sees (saw) Lester as the hero who threw her a lifeline in the time of need to save her.

In the discussion, when she made good and rational suggestions that were definitely plausible and interesting in terms of content, Lester - her new boss - remained silent.
Instead of joining in the discussion and supporting his colleague Sarah with her arguments and explanations, he sat there impassively and disinterestedly, staring bored at his screen the whole time ...

And this is exactly where Sarah would have needed his (Lester's) support, but her delusion and brain manipulation has reached cronic proportions and she is completely blinded...

Any normal person with ‘common sense' - which we can not assume Sarah has at the moment, because she's “only thinking about sex, sex with that dirty clown Lester” 7/24 - could have seen this and reacted accordingly.

She should have woken up from her lethargy and slumber here at the latest...

° PC

 

[Verisimilinude]

It is interesting that Lester has no insecurities. He's described as fat and ugly and Sarah calls him a loser but he never reflects on that in his thoughts. With what we know of Lizzie, it seems he's had a lot of success with women. He's so confident he'll fuck Sarah and gets her. Id love to read a backstory in toxic attraction or another series about Lester's past.

There has been so much written without a lot of details about Lizzie/Lester past that I think a lot of people would like to see DS write that story.

 

[Verisimilinude]

Contrary to the prevailing opinion that Lester went against Mary in the meeting to help Sarah, I think he was more likely to have pushed through his own interests.
Because Mary wanted to make it clear that she is the second power in management and that all departments are under her leadership, including IT with IT boss Lester.
If Lester had not reacted, he would have accepted this as a fact, as would all the other department heads of the various departments present, and accepted Mary as the superior manager.

So he had to react and explain how he felt about it, which he did.
So his reaction had nothing whatsoever to do with Sarah!

However, as the naive and ‘cock-driven’ Sarah is no longer able to read the simplest of processes and distinguish apples from oranges, she sees (saw) Lester as the hero who threw her a lifeline in the time of need to save her.

In the discussion, when she made good and rational suggestions that were definitely plausible and interesting in terms of content, Lester - her new boss - remained silent.
Instead of joining in the discussion and supporting his colleague Sarah with her arguments and explanations, he sat there impassively and disinterestedly, staring bored at his screen the whole time ...

And this is exactly where Sarah would have needed his (Lester's) support, but her delusion and brain manipulation has reached cronic proportions and she is completely blinded...

Any normal person with ‘common sense' - which we can not assume Sarah has at the moment, because she's “only thinking about sex, sex with that dirty clown Lester” 7/24 - could have seen this and reacted accordingly.

She should have woken up from her lethargy and slumber here at the latest...

° PC

Umh I guess you could read it that way, but perhaps you missed the prior paragraph where he told you that he didn't give a shit about the hospital or it's politics; that none of it mattered to him, or how he considered leaving and going back to Chicago, but that he stayed bc it gave him better access to Sarah and his plans for her downfall.

 

[Ndbaelor]

Oh look, it's theory o'clock!
I have a question about the 30th chapter starts the pregnancy phase rumors (if they are true): does it mean Lester successfully breed Sarah on ch.30? or is that when the mission to impregnate Sarah starts? (like on chapter 30 Lester was granted the key to williams' house and he replace the pill box then)