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Raziel_8

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I chose the option to tell the other women so that they knew versus trying to lie (so I did not get the part where Kallie shares what is going on if the MC does not).
I also choose to reveal the secret, but i was curious about lying so i tried the option.
I think the choice makes sense - some leaders have the misguided notion that keeping someone's personal information secret outweighs the group's safety (bad or questionable decisions in times of high stress is something I've seen from a variety of leaders and the bad ones often double down when called on the bad decisions).
That sounds for me rather a lack of common sense, especially when the leaders ass is in the first row for suffering the consequences.
And the privacy thing has happened several times that's why i mentioned it.
Like when Kallie got sprayed and he was all about being gentelman and not seeing her nude, when the girl has a entirely, far more important problem at hand and is even voicing that she needs help.
That's for me on the same level when someone needs CPR and you are worrying about if it's ok about removing cloths, instead of helping, just a complete lack of common sense imo.

But then, as Mav said before, a certain lack of common sense is part of ILS games.
Like in N&T where they let a young child run alone through the woods, fully aware that there are zombies and even bandit attacks...
 
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Raziel_8

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I agree with you. In my opinion, if there were a "canon" route, it would be Kallie. She fits the MC perfectly; both are emerging from toxic relationships. She sees the MC as someone to lean on, and he understands her personality and encourages her independence, I think they fit each other perfectly but I will say Kallie is my favorite so I am a bit biased here :KEK:
I found one of the first lines really amusing.
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And me thinking, yeah, i'd totaly do that if i had the choice :LOL:
 

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I don't know if the Witch can manipulate/influence people either by hallucination, virus or the fog, but if she (or many of them) actually can then it will be a sick turning point of the story in my opinion.

Our MC is slowly losing his mind due to the lack of nutrition and constant influence of the Witch. And eventually have to fighting his inner psycho side, otherwise he will lose his shit like the guy on the stair.

Kinda wack to think he will someday transform like Kyle Crane from Dying Light and start cranning all over the place. :KEK: :KEK:
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Walter Victor

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I wonder how the relationships will go now with the discussion with Laura, if it will end the relationship with her.
It might, depending on your choices. There is a variable that is set near the end of the release that describes Laura's mood. She might be upset, but will be okay with the situation, or she might be mad, and it will cause trouble, or any relationship with Laura might be over. It all depends on the player's choices.

Fortunately, I was able to get the first option, so my MC is good with fucking everybody... for now. The walkthrough helps a lot.
 

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It might, depending on your choices. There is a variable that is set near the end of the release that describes Laura's mood. She might be upset, but will be okay with the situation, or she might be mad, and it will cause trouble, or any relationship with Laura might be over. It all depends on the player's choices.

Fortunately, I was able to get the first option, so my MC is good with fucking everybody... for now. The walkthrough helps a lot.
Did you run into a choice where the walkthrough suggested something you wouldn't have picked first?
 

Raziel_8

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Did you run into a choice where the walkthrough suggested something you wouldn't have picked first?
Well some choices are not that obvious, mostly where you can tell them the truth and get trust but also anxiety.
IIRC to get Laura mad at you need to have less than 6 trust out of 8 or so, so not that hard to be on her good side.

There is a nice bonus scene if you have 3 or less trust with Laura (thought that's not really something you get if you don't do it on purpose)
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They let her in...
Yes but I mean was he also a variant? Why was only he infected, but the other 2 you find in that room likely human, or they wouldn't have died
How did she end up outside again? Did the girls throw her out, then die to the dude when he turned?
Why is she visibly different? Is it infection time? Being blasted by a concentrated amount cause you to look less human?
 

Walter Victor

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Did you run into a choice where the walkthrough suggested something you wouldn't have picked first?
I'm sure that has happened, but it's difficult for me to say, since in addition to the walkthrough I also read the scripts and check the usage of variables as I play.

So, in the case of Laura's sex scene, I made sure that what I wanted to do was going to work out for me before going ahead. If the result of my MC having sex with Laura would have been bad, I wouldn't have done it for my saved playthrough. However, I would have done an alternate playthrough and saved the actual scene for later play. I often do this in games where the way I want to play misses a sex scene. In games like BaDIK, it happens a LOT. In this game, not yet.
 

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It might, depending on your choices. There is a variable that is set near the end of the release that describes Laura's mood. She might be upset, but will be okay with the situation, or she might be mad, and it will cause trouble, or any relationship with Laura might be over. It all depends on the player's choices.

Fortunately, I was able to get the first option, so my MC is good with fucking everybody... for now. The walkthrough helps a lot.
Did you run into a choice where the walkthrough suggested something you wouldn't have picked first?
Well some choices are not that obvious, mostly where you can tell them the truth and get trust but also anxiety.
IIRC to get Laura mad at you need to have less than 6 trust out of 8 or so, so not that hard to be on her good side.

There is a nice bonus scene if you have 3 or less trust with Laura (thought that's not really something you get if you don't do it on purpose)
I'm sure that has happened, but it's difficult for me to say, since in addition to the walkthrough I also read the scripts and check the usage of variables as I play.

So, in the case of Laura's sex scene, I made sure that what I wanted to do was going to work out for me before going ahead. If the result of my MC having sex with Laura would have been bad, I wouldn't have done it for my saved playthrough. However, I would have done an alternate playthrough and saved the actual scene for later play. I often do this in games where the way I want to play misses a sex scene. In games like BaDIK, it happens a LOT. In this game, not yet.

I might add that if you don't use the walkthrough you can:

1) save when you have to make a choice;

2) check your stats before making your choice;

3) choose;

4) check the stats and see how girls' points changed (love, desire, trust, friend, ansiety)

5) rollback;

6) repeat until you realise which choice is the best one;

7) save and move on.

By the way, sometimes you realise that you have to raise ansiety in order to get more trust/friend/desire points.
 

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In mine (not over yet) Laura got pissed that MC (not a choice) told her about it literally right after fucking and more about how it might affect Kallie (wisely, he didn't tell her he was fucking Shelley too - who already knows his fucking all 3 and is fine with it.)
 

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Again, this is a game and everything depends on YOUR game choices.

Just for the record, in Now and Then - Author's 1st game - you have a path where both the 2 main teenage girls are happy to share MC, a path where you choose 1 girl over the other one, and a path where you mess up and you end up alone like a lone dog. Plus, you have multiple different sharing paths.
yah its a given but most people are gonna play to unlock *all* scenes, its pretty common. Hell even I do it even with most stuff I'm not a fan of lol. Unless its like the big nono tags. Then I might avoid it. But for sure its definitely choices matter.
 

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I don't know if the Witch can manipulate/influence people either by hallucination, virus or the fog, but if she (or many of them) actually can then it will be a sick turning point of the story in my opinion.

Our MC is slowly losing his mind due to the lack of nutrition and constant influence of the Witch. And eventually have to fighting his inner psycho side, otherwise he will lose his shit like the guy on the stair.

Kinda wack to think he will someday transform like Kyle Crane from Dying Light and start cranning all over the place. :KEK: :KEK:
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I've been giving this some thought and with regards to Shelley's mental condition, I think it would be a really cool twist if the Witch does have some kind of telepathic ability to mess with people but because Shelley is bi-polar, she is somehow immune to it and is able to save the party in the next chapter while everyone else is losing their minds. Heh.. can you imagine? lol
 
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I also choose to reveal the secret, but i was curious about lying so i tried the option.

That sounds for me rather a lack of common sense, especially when the leaders ass is in the first row for suffering the consequences.
And the privacy thing has happened several times that's why i mentioned it.
Like when Kallie got sprayed and he was all about being gentelman and not seeing her nude, when the girl has a entirely, far more important problem at hand and is even voicing that she needs help.
That's for me on the same level when someone needs CPR and you are worrying about if it's ok about removing cloths, instead of helping, just a complete lack of common sense imo.

But then, as Mav said before, a certain lack of common sense is part of ILS games.
Like in N&T where they let a young child run alone through the woods, fully aware that there are zombies and even bandit attacks...
I understand where you are coming from re: Shelley.

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Trust and need are the glue holding the group together right now and weaking trust would, IMO, only further weaken the group.

As a guy, I also recognize that I have a different threshold for when it is okay to discount the need for privacy versus some of my female friends.

It's been some time since I was reminded of this but imagine coed camping without shower and bathroom facilities - so roughing it of a sort - and a woman needs to go to the bathroom at night, and you are the guy holding the flashlight to help her negotiate roots and rocks until she finds her spot, then not getting an uninvited eyeful while making sure it is safe - including no poison oak/ivy for ex.

I know that we are not talking about life and death in the above scenario but even the illusion of some privacy is important to many women and even some guys, so I think the MC did right by Kallie while helping her recover from the attack and he did it without putting her in any additional danger.

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Raziel_8

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We could not know that Shelley would simply start to shut down and give up the will to live once we left the dorm behind.
Actually that really was to be expected and sooner then later.
We know she is highly anxious and unstable, she is really fearfull of the outside and the monsters, add her bipolar disorder and her being fresh off her meds...now you take her and put her in physical and mental extrem stress situation...i mean, what do you think what would happen, don't need to be an doctor to know that this was coming.
We have an example of an adult making a very bad choice when Laura left the group without a word and just left the safety of the dorm to try to find her own way - but we know the back story of 'Why' she made this choice.
In Laura's case it's not a bad choice per se, but a mental breakdown.

As for the shower scene, yes the MC did help. I meant that Kallie is saying multiple times the MC should stay, she doesn't want to be alone etc while he is worried about seeing her nude...she said she wanted him stay, so just stay, point.
Personaly i don't understand why this is something the MC is worried about in that situation, that be the last thing on my mind really.
I get the MC don't want to overstep boundaries, but half the scene feels like Kallie says he should stay while he tries to leave...just be there and keep it professional, that is litterally all it takes, no need to make a large fuss out of it and if you get a climpse, well you are adults, really.
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s a guy, I also recognize that I have a different threshold for when it is okay to discount the need for privacy versus some of my female friends.

It's been some time since I was reminded of this but imagine coed camping without shower and bathroom facilities - so roughing it of a sort - and a woman needs to go to the bathroom at night, and you are the guy holding the flashlight to help her negotiate roots and rocks until she finds her spot, then not getting an uninvited eyeful while making sure it is safe - including no poison oak/ivy for ex.

I know that we are not talking about life and death in the above scenario but even the illusion of some privacy is important to many women and even some guys, so I think the MC did right by Kallie while helping her recover from the attack and he did it without putting her in any additional danger.
I'm aware and i agree that the ilusion of privacy is important, but place and time, none cares if you see some nude parts in that kind of situation. I begun work as a nurse when i was in my mid 20s, we had coed changing rooms (i think the only one complaining about it was a a girl which liked nude bathing...for some reason) and yeah, your work also includes a lot of women your age or younger (be it as co workers or patients), so being professional and keeping as much privacy as possible (or at least the ilusion of it) is certainly important.

Really same in your example, doubt it would have been much of a problem if you did get a accidental glimpse, or that being something you are worried about.
 
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As to the bipolar - if she goes into the manic phase, she could be potentially dangerous.
 

Raziel_8

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As to the bipolar - if she goes into the manic phase, she could be potentially dangerous.
Probably more irritable and confrontational, but mostly a threat to herself in this situation, or indirectly to the rest of the group.
Doubt she would be a direct danger to the others.
 

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As to the bipolar - if she goes into the manic phase, she could be potentially dangerous.
Probably more irritable and confrontational, but mostly a threat to herself in this situation, or indirectly to the rest of the group.
Doubt she would be a direct danger to the others.
We've already seen her manic phase when she was first encountered. I don't recall any of those traits, unless you count talking people's ears off being irritable. She was flighty and scatterbrained, which of course could raise the issues that Raziel_8 brought up.
 

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As to the bipolar - if she goes into the manic phase, she could be potentially dangerous.
Yeah, as others have said I think she is a danger mostly to herself, specially if travelling, she may not assess danger correctly or decide to stop walking, but I don't expect a Laura like episode where she walks off from the group.

Originally, I also thought she was gonna be the one to spill the beans about you fucking everyone during one of her mood swings but that's no longer possible.
 
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