Unity Completed Train Your Ass With Elsa [v1.01] [Viznity]

devroz

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You guys don't see the hypocrisy in crying about the ethics of asset theft on a pirate site?
Ol' pot and kettle. I agree, but also if we never call somebody out because we have our own moral failings to work on, nobody would ever get called out.

All that said, Viznity seems to have their shit together, albeit not referencing Aroma, so I'm leaning towards 'he's legit'. Both parties seem to work through Newgrounds. If they aren't collaborating, Aroma will know soon, and there will be content reviews.
 

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Even the intentions of the dev are probably pure, It's obviously Aroma Sensei's art...
I understand the point that we could use another person art especially because for one person it's really hard to both be good in coding and drawing.

But there we have an exposition of Aroma Sensei's art, even if polish has been done, not much extra gameplay is there, it's just building a game around the work of someone else + the dev is OUTRAGEOUSLY exposing his Patreon and it causes 2 problems for people out there :
- If they're coming for the art, they will support the wrong person..
- It's impossible for the dev to produce any content updates and it's stolen art and he can't draw more himself..

Meanwhile if it's clearly showned that it's Aroma Sensei's art and the dev doesn't expose his Patreon like u're almost forced to click it (never seen a game where it's so forced btw), that's absolutly fine (y). We are great fappers but not thiefs ^^
 

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To be clear about the outrageous biased PATREON promotion thing.
Main screen :
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PATREON => The dev's PATREON

After pressing Play :
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PATREON => The dev's PATREON
INSTAGRAM => The actual "game"

That's too much monetizing not my work for me to accept..

Btw, the CREDITS page is perfect, but every Patreon icons should show it instead of only the dev and the dev..
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so, basically like every game using BB characters, story and everything ?
they never get the authorisation to do so, still never created any problem apparently...
I have no idea what BB is supposed to refer to, although a search seems to suggests its the game called "big brother".

I don't know much about the 3D assets used in that game, but my initial guess would be that they are available for commercial use. In which case the creator would be authorized to use them, provided he has a license to do so.

But good luck proving that the creator doesn't have a valid license.
 

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anyway, whatever...

i just deleted my comments and you guys should do the same.


no drama shit on topic. report and move on, dont arge about copyrights or stuff. topic aint here for that.

if you think topic should be close, contact admin/staff or report.

no flood spam about this drama.

fair warning before admin/staff pop up , delete all your comments, give ya warning or ban or whatever.

let's drop this drama thing. comment about game or report thread.... and move on.


i m not dev, but careful. I also have the power to press the report button and clean this topic by asking softly a mod to do it... and suc...eeh... no, not that last thing.

but take my advice warning seriously :cool:
 
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what i mean is that the original BB (big brother) game creator have technically created theses chars (not directly with assets properly, but have created theses characters in his game (as same as , for exemple, Valve have created Alyx in half life.). so technically he have his copyrights on the specific characters.
I found this post when I searched for BB, which heavily suggests that the assets in that game are simply a combination of 3D assets that are commercially available.

There's a big difference between using assets that are commercially available, but without proper license, and creating assets out of another artists work.

The difference being that one has agreed that their work could be used by others to make a profit, whilst the other did not.

But again, many of those assets sell for just $8, so I'm very hesitant to claim that the creator of Big Brother didn't, at some point, decide to buy a valid license for those assets.
 

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but heh, i dont defend or help any side. just saying... when you go drawing an existing character under copyright to make money out of it, you can't complain about someone else doing the same wit ya.
The point is that the artist is re-drawing "based" on elsa in his style and for us to have H content about it (I'm not sure Disney will ever do that ><). Having a GF which is an artist, it takes ages to draw something and even if it'a a parody or whatever, big work has been done and such.. And and the end of the day, all of this is original content made by the artist.

Regarding BB, idk as I only played the original BB but the games out there are extensions "based" on the game with new story, extra content as I understood.. That's legitish for me.

Regarding this game, that's the exact same story that the artist done, animations are not from the dev etc...
I think that only the coding and (maybe) translations are original content, everything else is stolen. At the end, nothing more have been created, only stolen content and a biased Patreon button to gain money from it, that's not legit for me.

BTW, that's an interesting subject to discuss on F95 I guess. Idk if you got my pov ?
edit : report button already pressed long ago macadam
 

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The point is that the artist is re-drawing "based" on elsa in his style and for us to have H content about it (I'm not sure Disney will ever do that ><). Having a GF which is an artist, it takes ages to draw something and even if it'a a parody or whatever, big work has been done and such.. And and the end of the day, all of this is original content made by the artist.

Regarding BB, idk as I only played the original BB but the games out there are extensions "based" on the game with new story, extra content as I understood.. That's legitish for me.

Regarding this game, that's the exact same story that the artist done, animations are not from the dev etc...
I think that only the coding and (maybe) translations are original content, everything else is stolen. At the end, nothing more have been created, only stolen content and a biased Patreon button to gain money from it, that's not legit for me.

BTW, that's an interesting subject to discuss on F95 I guess. Idk if you got my pov ?
edit : report button already pressed long ago macadam
i get your point.

maybe it's interresting thing to talk about (i dont know lol), but like i say in my last comment.

avoid it here. it can destroy topic and create troubles and stuff, soo better avoid that.
 

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Hm, the artwork itself is slightly different from what I've seen in Frozen... but anyway, it's a great job even if I just consider the whole idea. High-five for the Dev! :)
 

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The art and story is stolen from AkarkiJoe
That's the pb..
 

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People comparing apples with....bacon, as usual in cases like this.

Piracy and profiting from art theft could only be comparable if every pirate was packaging and reselling the game they just pirated for profit. That's obviously not the case which makes any argument about ethics involving the two nonsensical...
 

AkarkiJoe

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The art and story is stolen from AkarkiJoe
That's the pb..
To be honest, I don't really care about the origin of the story. Let's say I'm not the biggest fan of the stupid Disney shit so I really like the idea of stretching those bitches butts. That's all. :)
 

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People comparing apples with....bacon, as usual in cases like this.

Piracy and profiting from art theft could only be comparable if every pirate was packaging and reselling the game they just pirated for profit. That's obviously not the case which makes any argument about ethics involving the two nonsensical...
Or a convenient fallacy for a strawman?
 

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Stretching those bitches butts is also stolen by the dev from the artist, and that's the saddest ><